LiteOn DH20A4P/H Fast Burn, Enhanced OverSpeed & Enhanced OHT Firmware

LiteOn / PLDS / Sony Writer Discuss, LiteOn DH20A4P/H Fast Burn, Enhanced OverSpeed & Enhanced OHT Firmware at CD and DVD Writers forum; Here is some of the good old 8x Sony Branded DVD+R TY discs. Man, I wish that Sony still used these discs....Anyone know why they stopped? Used 9P59A-fbl-eos-eoht firmware with everything enabled. Attached Images ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A4P_9P59_13-March-2008_02_20.png (51.0 KB, 311 views) ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A4P_9P59_13-March-2008_02_36.png (47.9 KB, 311 views)

Posted: 13-03-2008

#676

CBMC (CD Freaks Member): Posts: 118

Here is some of the good old 8x Sony Branded DVD+R TY discs. Man, I wish that Sony still used these discs....Anyone know why they stopped?
Used 9P59A-fbl-eos-eoht firmware with everything enabled.

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Posted: 13-03-2008

#677

Albert (Moderator): Posts: 5,280

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Originally Posted by CBMC

Any idea on why this 16x Optodisc is only showing 6x in CDSpeed?

IIRC, OPTODISC R16 has been locked to 6x in early firmwares for both the A1 and A4 series. For the 20A1P, they added 16x in the last firmware, KL0N. LiteOn may do the same for the A4, as soon as they can test it a bit.

I don't think turning on OverSpeed allowed for 16x, either, even with CK's patches. It was seemingly specifically locked to 6x. You might try testing a few strategy swaps, but I have few/no suggestions for what you should try.

I think Optodisc media requires a lot of fine-tuning to burn right at 16x, so LiteOn chose the "safeness" of 6x. That's just speculation though.

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Posted: 13-03-2008

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What Albert said

I've burnt a disc @6x and result was awesome except for some PIFs from dust

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Posted: 13-03-2008

#679

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LITE-ON DH-20A4P 9P59S-FBL-EOS-EOHT 5
OEM Version
Model: DH-20A4P21C
Manufactured Date: September 2007

New design Verbatim DVD-R InkJet Printables

First burn after switching A->S firmware

For comparison, second image is from the one of the best burns with A firmware and same MID.ATAPI___DVD_A__DH20A4P_9P59_12-March-2008_19_19.png

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Posted: 13-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Albert

Yeah, I realized that after I posted, using media code speed. Instead of messing with the writing stratagies I'll just use my trusty Pioneer 111D to burn these. Thanks for all the help and quick replies.

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Posted: 13-03-2008

#681

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Sony Branded TY 8x DVD+R
Yuden000 T02
Written at 12x
A4P 9P59S FBL EOS EOHT 5
OHT=enabled; OS=enabled; HT=enabled

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Posted: 13-03-2008

#682

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Benq DW2000@20A4P 9P57A EOHT 6 20x RPM (Thanks CodeKing

)

At last a more than 18X burn with Panasonic TYG03 (Although it seems a little slower rpm for 20X !)

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#683

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Verbatim 16x DVD-R
MCC 03RG20
Written at 16x
A1P @ A4P 9PV1[A] EOHT 6
OHT=enabled

I shan't be picky, because this is better than some of the burns A3P users are getting these days on this same media [in some aspects]. Glad to see jitter stayed under 10%.

My drive doesn't hate this A-firmware for 16x, it seems.

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#684

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Hello.. Well due to the A3 being out of stock at Newegg I decided to upgrade my 20A1H to a DH20A4H drive. Now my question is how do I determine which patch to use the 53A or the 57S? What is the difference?

LH-20A4H (QP53A FB FBL EOS EOHT 5):
LH-20A4H (QP57S FB FBL EOS EOHT 5):

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#685

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Originally Posted by molitar

Long story short: try both. Whichever gives you the better quality burns, use that.

I'd suggest QP53A first, then QP57S. [See the first post of this thread]. It doesn't explain the difference between S and A firmware, but I suggest you search this thread for it.

If you search but can't find much on what is different about the A and S firmware, I'd start with this post in the general A4P thread: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/lite-dh...ml#post1988484 [post 450, in case that doesn't work for you]. It is a lot of reading, but you'll understand better.

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#686

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kHypermedia 4x DVD-R
CMC MAG AF1
Written at 8x using ImgBurn Build Mode
A1P @ A4P 9PV1[A] EOHT 6
OS=enabled; all else = default

Jitter as low as MCC 0xRG20 with this drive. Must be about the time CMC really started working with MCC on quality media.

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Posted: 14-03-2008

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Originally Posted by molitar

Futher to Alberts post.

molitar, what firmware does your drive currently have? You can use the flash utility to check which version (A/S) your drive currently has installed.

I wish LiteOn would release a new update for the 20A4H, like they did with the 20A4P.

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#688

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Ok it appears I need to use the QP57 version since when I ran the EEProm utility to back it up that is the firmware it indicated is installed. So it appears you can determine by use the EEprom utility. BTW Codeking I sent you a message with a link to a copy of the eeprom backup of my DH-20A4H drive.

CodeKing, currently have 'DVD A DH20A4H QP57 2007/11/20 19:35'

BTW why does the eeprom backup show A their but "S" firmware in the flash utility? Is this a bug with the eeprom utility?

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#689

C0deKing (Senior Administrator): Posts: 11,905

Thanks molitar.

Both A and S show "DVD A..." as the drive ID. The firmware type A/S has to be derived from the boot code of the firmware, not the EEPROM.

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#690

molitar (MyCE Member): Posts: 218

Well since it's a brand new drive totally untested.. no burns as of yet.. I will make sure to post a couple of successful burns with the drive with default firmware.. after I know it is working properly I will install the patch firmware and post results.. that way you will see the before and after results from a drive that has not burned anything as of yet

I will make sure to reset the learned media after updating the firmware.. that way it will be the first 2 burns with the stock firmware and than the patched firmware.

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#691

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LITE-ON DH-20A4P 9PV1.Patched-FBL-EOHT 6
Retail Version
Model: DH-20A4P08C
Manufactured Date: December 2007

Imation CD-R 1x-52x 700M
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics
MID : 97m26s66f
Write speeds: : 16 X - 24 X - 32 X - 40 X - 48 X
Capacity : 79:59.71 : 703 MB

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Posted: 14-03-2008

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Posted: 14-03-2008

#693

Albert (Moderator): Posts: 5,280

Maxell 16x DVD-R
ImgBurn log for all other info...

Code:

I 06:19:41 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE
I 06:19:42 Destination Device: [1:0:0]ATAPI DVD A  DH20A4P 9PV1 FBL EOHT 6 (D:) (ATA)
I 06:19:42 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 06:19:42 Write Speed: 18x
I 06:19:42 OPC: Yes
I 06:19:42 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 06:19:42 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: Yes, SmartBurn: Yes
I 06:20:20 Filling Buffer... (256 MB)
I 06:20:21 Writing LeadIn...
I 06:20:36 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2298495)
I 06:20:36 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2298495)
I 06:25:07 Synchronising Cache...
I 06:25:23 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:34
I 06:25:23 Average Write Rate: 17,025 KB/s (12.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 25,048 KB/s (18.1x)

Not bad at all. Not too far off from 9P59S: http://club.cdfreaks.com/2012297-post603.html. I do think this is a good step in the right direction for PIF. Everything else is about the same, and I'm thinking that, with a little time, the PIF would have been even closer between the two burns after a bit of learning with '59S.

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Posted: 15-03-2008

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***WARNING: Not the shortest post!***

a single UNDERspeeding test
Test subject: Verbatim 16x DVD-R @ 2x

Code:

MID: MCC 03RG20
Country of Origin: Taiwan, by CMC Magnetics [MAP6...]

Drive used: LiteOn LH-20A1P crossflashed to LiteOn DH-20A4P
Firmware: 9PV1 Test Firmware, version A, enhanced with FBL and EOHT 6 by C0deKing
Settings of: [OHT=enabled]; [HT=enabled]; [SmartBurn=enabled]; [OverSpeed=disabled]

Software used: ImgBurn 2.4
Mode: Image Build Mode, direct to device
A few settings: [Perform OPC before burn = enabled]; [Buffer = 256 MB]; [Chosen write speed: 2x]

Disc's intended purpose: data backup

Comments:Burn: The drive issued an Optimum Power Calibration error at the beginning of the burn. This is often the case with underspeeding. With this app, I was able to retry. Other programs may not be so receptive, and may create a coaster.
Disc Quality: About equivalent to what one could expect when using media meant for archival [ex: MAM-E or MAM-A archival media using TDK's media codes]. However, the disc performs much better at high speeds, with 1,500 less PIF, and much better PIE and jitter.
Surface Scan [ScanDisc]: Both drives reported that all files are okay. Not much here.
TA Jitter: Lands and Pits don't appear to be formed correctly, as is reflected in the high jitter in the DQ. No real change between zones.
TRT: I decided to use just the Pioneer for TRT, as the LiteOn is fairly robust, and pretty much does a good job with any complex discs. Seems there is an issue not picked up in the surface scan. Other discs TRT fine.
ImgBurn Log:
I 21:10:39 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 21:10:39 Source File Sectors: 2,297,440 (MODE1/2048)
I 21:10:39 Source File Size: 4,705,157,120 bytes
I 21:10:39 Source File Volume Identifier: *
I 21:10:39 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner!
I 21:10:39 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 21:10:39 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet, UDF (2.60)
I 21:10:39 Destination Device: [1:0:0] ATAPI DVD A  DH20A4P 9PV1 (D:) (ATA)
I 21:10:39 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x)
I 21:10:39 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888
I 21:10:39 Write Mode: DVD
I 21:10:39 Write Type: DAO
I 21:10:39 Write Speed: 2x
I 21:10:39 Link Size: 0
I 21:10:39 Test Mode: No
I 21:10:39 OPC: Yes
I 21:10:39 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 21:10:39 Advanced Settings - Force HT: Yes, Online HT: Yes, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes
W 21:11:00 Optimum Power Calibration Failed! - Reason: Power Calibration Area Error
W 21:11:00 Retrying (1)...
I 21:11:43 Filling Buffer... (256 MB)
I 21:12:26 Writing LeadIn...
I 21:13:09 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2297439)
I 21:13:09 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2297439)
I 21:42:35 Synchronising Cache...
I 21:43:16 Image MD5: bc2a462090ca003b821be0fa99a7ae17
I 21:43:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:32:36
I 21:43:18 Average Write Rate: 2,603 KB/s (1.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2,704 KB/s (2.0x)

Overall grade: B-/C+. With good media, there's no reason to underspeed! Unless your system can't handle it, always do at or just below rated speed.

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	14-March-2008_PIONEER_DVD-RW__DVR-112D_22_18_MCC_03RG20__.png (61.2 KB, 301 views)
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Posted: 15-03-2008

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Albert (Moderator): Posts: 5,280

Memorex 16x DVD-R
RITEKF1
Written at 18x
A1P @ A4P 9PV1[A] FBL EOHT 6
EOHT=enabled; OS=enabled; HT=enabled; SB=enabled

...and this is one of the times I see version A firmware producing noticeably worse results.

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Posted: 15-03-2008

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Memorex 16x DVD-R
ProdiscF02
Written at 20x
A1P @ A4P 9PV1[A] FBL EOHT 6
EOHT=enabled; OS=enabled; HT=enabled; SB=enabled

This isn't half bad, but those recalibration PIE spikes at the end are new to me with this media.

Slightly worse than S firmware for me.

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Posted: 15-03-2008

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Verbatim 16x @ 18x all defaults

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Posted: 15-03-2008

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Albert (Moderator): Posts: 5,280

Memorex 16x DVD-R
ProdiscF02
Written at 8x
A1P @ A4P 9PV1[A] FBL EOHT 6
EOHT=enabled; OS=enabled; HT=enabled; SB=enabled

Nice enough for me. About the same as S firmwares, IIRC.

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Posted: 16-03-2008

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Pulsee (CDFreaks Resident): Posts: 2,248

LITE-ON DH-20A4P 9PV1.Patched-FBL-EOHT 6
Retail Version
Model: DH-20A4P08C
Manufactured Date: December 2007

RiTEK 8x DVD-R RITEKG05
Burnt At 8x

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Posted: 16-03-2008

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Pulsee (CDFreaks Resident): Posts: 2,248

LITE-ON DH-20A4P 9PV1.Patched-FBL-EOHT 6
Retail Version
Model: DH-20A4P08C
Manufactured Date: December 2007

RiTEK 8x DVD-R RITEKG05
Burnt At 6x

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