LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion

*2601* · 13-09-2007

Mitsubishi -R 8x
MCC02RG20 @8x
OS, HT and OHT: all disabled

*worker* · 13-09-2007

TDK TTG01@8X
OS, HT and OHT all on.

*NewFish* · 13-09-2007

Drive - firmware: LiteOn DH20A3, XV5X
MID: Verbatim Branded 16x DVD-R, ColorDisc, MCC 03RG20, MIT
Burned with: CDSpeed 4.7.7.3
Burned at: 16x
Time: 5:59
SB, OS and OHT: enabled, HT: disabled
Scanned with same drive and 20A1H

MHTSOS · 13-09-2007

Drive - firmware: LiteOn DH20A3, XV5X
MID: Verbatim Branded 16x DVD+R, Lightscribe, MCC 004, MII
Burned with: CDSpeed 4.7.7.3
Burned at:20x
Time: 5:23
SB, OS, HT and OHT: enabled
Scanned with same drive and 20A1H

*C0deKing* · 14-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaDETH

Burned at 18x

OS, HT and OHT: all enabled

MegaDETH, I notice that you are saying that OHT is enabled but none of you scans are showing any OPC relinks. I've read about 20A1 drives doing this. Is OHT definitely enabled in your above burns?

worker, interesting about your lockups while reading. With over 200 quality and TRT scans now, using XP firmware, I've never had a read lockup. Perhaps it's a timing issue, but I wonder why the H version would be any different.

*nickyboy4* · 14-09-2007

Is this firmware any improvement over XP5T????

*C0deKing* · 14-09-2007

^ Seems to be. The repeating OPC recalibrate in the CLV section of the burn is now fixed and my results with OHT off, HT/OS on, are better. I haven't had a PIF over 4 on any 8x media burned at 16x yet. DVD-R PIEs are still very high.

I haven't tried any DL media yet, with OHT enabled. I'll wait for some confirmation from Wind that this is now working.

I burned two CMC MAG D04s, one at 8x and one at 6x, with OHT off, using XP5T. Both discs read fine at 12x in the drive, but will not pay smoothly in the one player I have tried so far, even though the scans don't look too bad.

*worker* · 14-09-2007

The read lockup's are a bit of a mystery. I still have not had it running the firmware for the "3H" drive. At this point I prefer that firmware as I think it produces better burns. I'm seeing some differences as the drive adjusts from one burn to the next. I would be interested in seeing your results with this firmware.

*C0deKing* · 14-09-2007

I saw that the S203B had a problem burning RITEKF16, so I thought I would try some RITEKP16 in this drive (16x, HT/OS = On). 18x and 20x was available.

Perhaps taking a bit longer at the beginning (12s), pays off in the end.

Wind · 14-09-2007

If you want to compare the results of HT/non-HT, OHT/non-OHT, please check two things,

1. If drive write discs with HT, the led will flash twice each time.
2. OHT take place together with re-link.

And,

1. Some discs will always use HT because no write strategy for them.
2. When disc is writing by HT, OHT will be enable.(see remark 1)
3. When over speed writing, HT will always be used because no write strategy for that speed. Some 16x discs can write at 18x/20x without HT because there are write strategies for them.

remark 1. Force Hyper Tune(FHT) is only for those discs and speed which have write strategies for them. For item2, you can write discs with HT and turn off OHT by enable FHT.

remark 2. The setting might be a little different between models but the recognition shall be the same.

Clear?

Any suggestions for the arrangement are welcome.

*MegaDETH* · 14-09-2007

I know what your saying and I also thought it was odd, it's on my other machine but I will check it again in the morning. I was sure I set everything on before I started burning

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0deKing

MegaDETH, I notice that you are saying that OHT is enabled but none of you scans are showing any OPC relinks. I've read about 20A1 drives doing this. Is OHT definitely enabled in your above burns?

worker, interesting about your lockups while reading. With over 200 quality and TRT scans now, using XP firmware, I've never had a read lockup. Perhaps it's a timing issue, but I wonder why the H version would be any different.

*nickyboy4* · 14-09-2007

I did 2 identical burns with ImgBurn at 12X with 16X verbs, SB disabled, ht/oht/os off.
1st one with XP5T and 2nd one with XV5X. (cleared OPC after flash)
The 1st one is typical of what I had been getting with this media/firmware.
2nd is a clear improvment. While I noticed the lead in was shorter by about 7 to 10 seconds(around 38 secs) total burn time was a little longer with XV5X.

*C0deKing* · 14-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind

If you want to compare the results of HT/non-HT, OHT/non-OHT, please check two things,

1. If drive write discs with HT, the led will flash twice each time.
2. OHT take place together with re-link.

And,

1. Some discs will always use HT because no write strategy for them.
2. When disc is writing by HT, OHT will be enable.(see remark 1)
3. When over speed writing, HT will always be used because no write strategy for that speed. Some 16x discs can write at 18x/20x without HT because there are write strategies for them.

remark 1. Force Hyper Tune(FHT) is only for those discs and speed which have write strategies for them. For item2, you can write discs with HT and turn off OHT by enable FHT.

remark 2. The setting might be a little different between models but the recognition shall be the same.

Clear?

Any suggestions for the arrangement are welcome.

That's very clear. Thanks. I couldn't understand why OHT wasn't being turned on when overspeeding a disc, but it's because I currently have FHT enabled. I like the way it works.

It means you can overspeed known media without relinks and with good results, going by my above burns.

*C0deKing* · 14-09-2007

RITEKG05, 8x branded, burned at 16x, FHT/OS/OHT = On (6:12)

This RITEKG05 usually struggles to burn at 6x, let alone 16x.

*C0deKing* · 14-09-2007

RITEKG05, 8x branded, burned at 16x, FHT/OS = On (6:03)

Same media as above with OHT off this time. I've change the PIE scale for a better comparison.

Wind · 14-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by C0deKing

That's very clear. Thanks. I couldn't understand why OHT wasn't being turned on when overspeeding a disc, but it's because I currently have FHT enabled. I like the way it works.

It means you can overspeed known media without relinks and with good results, going by my above burns.

Basically, OHT will force turn on when writing with HT. But, if you want to write a disc with HT and without OHT, you can turn on FHT and turn off OHT
(some kind of back door). In the other word, you still can turn on OHT when overspeeding a disc.

FHT OHT StrategyExist result:
0 x 0 HT: on OHT: on
0 0 1 HT: off OHT: off
0 x 0 HT: on OHT: on
0 1 1 HT: off OHT: on
1 0 x HT: on OHT: off
1 1 x HT: on OHT: on

Strategy exist or not has been explained at previous post.

Does that help?

*C0deKing* · 14-09-2007

^ Couldn't be clearer. Thanks.

*NewFish* · 14-09-2007

Drive, firmware: LiteOn DH20A3, XV5X
MID: Verbatim Branded 16x DVD-R, TYG03
Burned with: CDSpeed 4.7.7.3
Burned at: 20x
Time: 5:17
SB, OS and OHT: enabled, HT: disabled
Scanned with same drive and 20A1H

*MegaDETH* · 14-09-2007

Very good explanation Wind, makes sense now.

Here is a screen shot anyway, everything turned on.

Wind · 14-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaDETH

Very good explanation Wind, makes sense now.

Here is a screen shot anyway, everything turned on.

Hi MegaDETH
You may need this.
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.ph...=SMARTBURN.rar

*NewFish* · 14-09-2007

Drive, firmware: LiteOn DH20A3, XV5X
MID: Verbatim Branded 16x DVD-R, MCC 03RG20, MIT
Burned with: CDSpeed 4.7.7.3
Burned at: 12x
Time: 7:37
SB, OHT: enabled; HT, OS : disabled
Scanned with same drive and 20A1H
Still lot of PIEs
Edit: My post #43 OS was not enabled

*MegaDETH* · 14-09-2007

Drive - firmware: LiteOn DH20A3
MID: Sony Branded 16x DVD-R SONY16D1 Made in Malaysia
Burned with: CDSpeed
Burned at: 18x
Time: 6:27

OS, HT and OHT: all enabled for real this time

Much slower burn time but I really like the PIE result compared to THIS BURN

MediumRare · 14-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wind

Hi MegaDETH
You may need this.
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.ph...=SMARTBURN.rar

Hi Wind,
thanks for making this new version (3.2.0) of SmartBurn available. This will avoid the ambiguity of 3.1.6 and 3.1.6T.

G

talos_2002 · 14-09-2007

So, no jitter report even with the future firmware?

*NewFish* · 14-09-2007

Drive, firmware: LiteOn DH20A3, XV5X
MID: Verbatim Branded 16x DVD+R, T03 (TH000020), MIJ
Burned with: CDSpeed 4.7.7.3
Burned at: 20x
Time: 5:22
SB, OHT: enabled; HT, OS : disabled
Scanned with: same drive.
I like it.

14-09-2007	#31
nickyboy4 MyCE Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: LI NY Posts: 694	Re: LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion Is this firmware any improvement over XP5T???? __________________ i3 2nd gen, 4gb ddr3, W7, BURNERS ASUS BW-12B1ST flashed ihbs-112 2 PL06 PIO 219L 1.01 Just retired DH-20A3P XV6D CK patched(still one of the best) For me it's just a hobby.

14-09-2007	#32
C0deKing Retired Senior Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In the pack Posts: 11,906	Re: LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion ^ Seems to be. The repeating OPC recalibrate in the CLV section of the burn is now fixed and my results with OHT off, HT/OS on, are better. I haven't had a PIF over 4 on any 8x media burned at 16x yet. DVD-R PIEs are still very high. I haven't tried any DL media yet, with OHT enabled. I'll wait for some confirmation from Wind that this is now working. I burned two CMC MAG D04s, one at 8x and one at 6x, with OHT off, using XP5T. Both discs read fine at 12x in the drive, but will not pay smoothly in the one player I have tried so far, even though the scans don't look too bad. __________________ http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ LiteOn Tools: EEPROM Utility <-- New v6.2.0, Flash Utility <-- New v6.0.1, Settings Utility <-- New v1.2.1 Samsung Tools: Patch Utility <-- New v3.4.10 LiteOn Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced OverSpeed (EOS) \| Enhanced Online HyperTuning (EOHT) BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB) Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Remove RipLock (RLR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Retain book type (BS) \| Default DVD-ROM (ROMD) The man who does things makes mistakes, but he who doesn't makes the biggest mistake of all - doing nothing. Benjamin Franklin The Forum Rules Click HERE to join cdfreaks.com

14-09-2007	#33
worker MyCE Resident Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 739	Re: LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion The read lockup's are a bit of a mystery. I still have not had it running the firmware for the "3H" drive. At this point I prefer that firmware as I think it produces better burns. I'm seeing some differences as the drive adjusts from one burn to the next. I would be interested in seeing your results with this firmware.

14-09-2007	#35
Wind CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 492	Re: LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion If you want to compare the results of HT/non-HT, OHT/non-OHT, please check two things, 1. If drive write discs with HT, the led will flash twice each time. 2. OHT take place together with re-link. And, 1. Some discs will always use HT because no write strategy for them. 2. When disc is writing by HT, OHT will be enable.(see remark 1) 3. When over speed writing, HT will always be used because no write strategy for that speed. Some 16x discs can write at 18x/20x without HT because there are write strategies for them. remark 1. Force Hyper Tune(FHT) is only for those discs and speed which have write strategies for them. For item2, you can write discs with HT and turn off OHT by enable FHT. remark 2. The setting might be a little different between models but the recognition shall be the same. Clear? Any suggestions for the arrangement are welcome.

14-09-2007	#42
C0deKing Retired Senior Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In the pack Posts: 11,906	Re: LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion ^ Couldn't be clearer. Thanks. __________________ http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ LiteOn Tools: EEPROM Utility <-- New v6.2.0, Flash Utility <-- New v6.0.1, Settings Utility <-- New v1.2.1 Samsung Tools: Patch Utility <-- New v3.4.10 LiteOn Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced OverSpeed (EOS) \| Enhanced Online HyperTuning (EOHT) BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB) Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Remove RipLock (RLR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Retain book type (BS) \| Default DVD-ROM (ROMD) The man who does things makes mistakes, but he who doesn't makes the biggest mistake of all - doing nothing. Benjamin Franklin The Forum Rules Click HERE to join cdfreaks.com

14-09-2007	#49
talos_2002 MyCE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Greece Posts: 291	Re: LiteOn DH20A3 Test Firmware - Results & Discussion So, no jitter report even with the future firmware? __________________ Some forums have too many "Read first" Game patches from www.patches-scrolls.de Turn off any HDD of your pc: revosleep.realspooky.de

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