***LiteOn Burn Quality Hall of Fame***
| LiteOn / PLDS / Sony Writer Discuss, ***LiteOn Burn Quality Hall of Fame*** at CD, DVD and Blu-ray Writers forum; Requirements SL Rules: * Minimum burn speed; 12x * Minimum data burned; 4400MB * Maximum PI Error value; 10, total PIE max. 20.000 * Maximum PI Failures value; 2 for Samsung/Lite-On drives, 4 for BenQ's total 150 PIF for LiteOn and 300 PIF for Benq * Maximum jitter is * |
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Posted:
22-02-2008
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Requirements
SL Rules:
* Minimum burn speed; 12x
* Minimum data burned; 4400MB
* Maximum PI Error value; 10, total PIE max. 20.000
* Maximum PI Failures value; 2 for Samsung/Lite-On drives, 4 for BenQ's
total 150 PIF for LiteOn and 300 PIF for Benq
* Maximum jitter is <10%
* Standard scanning speed; 4x for LiteOn and 8x for Benq
* Submit Transfer Rate Test when available
DL Rules:
* Minimum burning speed of 4X
* Minimum data burned; 6000MB
* Maximum PI Error value; 20, total PIE max. 40.000
* Maximum PI Failures value; 2
* Maximum PI Failure total; 500
* Maximum is <10% jitter
* Standard scanning speed; 4x for LiteOn and 8x for Benq
* Submit Transfer Rate Test when available
Taken from Samsung's HOF by Pinto2 with some modifications
Here is an example and a contribution
Panasonic TYG03 GH000157 burnt with Benq DW2000@DH20A4P Stock 9P57 @16x with Imgburn
Quote:Originally Posted by C0deKingScans that do not meet the rules will be deleted without notice, so make sure you are not wasting your time.
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6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T
HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire
3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity
OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue
X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital
Seasonic X-850
NZXT Phantom Red Edition
DVD Burners :
Samsung 203B SB03
NEC Optiarc AD-7200S
ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29
Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB
Retail Benq 1640 BSLB
LiteOn iHAS120
Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01
Boycott every faked/low quality media
Last edited by C0deKing; 02-05-2008 at 08:32. Reason: Updated the rules
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- Posted:
22-02-2008
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- Posted:
22-02-2008
- # 3
That was what I thoughtQuote:Originally Posted by Bob
Nice.........close thread
I should have saved it for later
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3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity
OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue
X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital
Seasonic X-850
NZXT Phantom Red Edition
DVD Burners :
Samsung 203B SB03
NEC Optiarc AD-7200S
ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29
Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB
Retail Benq 1640 BSLB
LiteOn iHAS120
Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01
Boycott every faked/low quality media - Posted:
03-03-2008
- # 4
Minimum burn speed of 12x? What's the point of that? Afraid the slow burns will beat you? __________________
Best DVD media:
Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R
Ritek G05 media =
My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.
- Posted:
06-03-2008
- # 6
Videoguard MCC02RG20 @ 12x OVERSPEED!!! 
20A4P Stock firmware & default settings in PHC 500BC external enclosure via 1394
BTW: This burner overspeeds verb -R (8x & 16X) & T.Y. + R (8x T02) very well
5273 Pie - Posted:
06-03-2008
- # 7
Wow not bad! MCC02RG20 usually hates being oversped but I see that liteons strategy is to gradually speed up to 12x and eventually 12x near the end, which is probably the best way to go about it. __________________
Best DVD media:
Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R
Ritek G05 media =
My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.
- Posted:
06-03-2008
- # 8
12x seems to be the sweet spot for most burners/media combinationsQuote:Originally Posted by cd pirate Minimum burn speed of 12x? What's the point of that? Afraid the slow burns will beat you?
The Samsung HOF thread also has this rule
Some very nice scans here
Maybe 150 maximum PIF is little harsh , so I would like any Mod to make it 300 __________________
Core i7 920 @4.25 with Noctua NH-D14
Asus Rampage III Extreme
6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T
HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire
3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity
OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue
X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital
Seasonic X-850
NZXT Phantom Red Edition
DVD Burners :
Samsung 203B SB03
NEC Optiarc AD-7200S
ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29
Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB
Retail Benq 1640 BSLB
LiteOn iHAS120
Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01
Boycott every faked/low quality media - Posted:
07-03-2008
- # 9
I would make the max errors for a liteon 500 and 1000 for BenQ __________________
Best DVD media:
Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R
Ritek G05 media =
My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.
- Posted:
07-03-2008
- # 10
Quote:Originally Posted by minaelromany 12x seems to be the sweet spot for most burners/media combinations
The Samsung HOF thread also has this rule
Some very nice scans here
Maybe 150 maximum PIF is little harsh , so I would like any Mod to make it 300
No I don't think it's harsh it's the "Hall of Fame" I mean come on if you set it higher then we might as well post in the "20A4P post your scans and questions here" thread!!
- Posted:
07-03-2008
- # 11
I agree! The HOF should be limited to only the very best.Quote:Originally Posted by jcusimano2 No I don't think it's harsh it's the "Hall of Fame" I mean come on if you set it higher then we might as well post in the "20A4P post your scans and questions here" thread!!
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BenQ 1650 (BCIC) x2
Lite-On 160P6S (PS0C)
Lite-On 20A4P (9P59)
Pioneer 111D @ 111L (8.29)
Toshiba M1502 (J816) ripper
- Posted:
07-03-2008
- # 12
This invalidates DL burning, could you make a appendix with exception for DL burns? For example : for 2.4x certificated, 4x burn, and 8x cert, 6x minimum.Quote:* Minimum burn speed; 12x __________________
My burners:
LiteOn 20A1H,LiteOn 20A1S,Samsung 182M,Samsung SH-S222L, Optiarc AD-7200A, Pioneer DVR-218L - Posted:
07-03-2008
- # 13
Quote:Originally Posted by larc919 I agree! The HOF should be limited to only the very best. It should be challenging to get into the HOF... possibly only a change for DL media. __________________
My favorite daily burning drives:
Plextor 712A - 1.09 NEC AD-7200A - 1.05 Liggy BenQ 1640 Grey OEM - BSMB LG GSA-H22N - 1.02
My favorite media:
RicohJPN R01, RicohJPN R03, MCC 003, MCC 004, Optodisc R16
Testing:
Pioneer BDR-203 Blu-Ray - Posted:
07-03-2008
- # 14
Well , the rules seemed harsh to me because there is not much HOF scans here ......yet
I'd suggest these rules for DL burning :
-Minimum burning speed of 4X
-Maximum PIF <1000 total
-Preferably scanned with older Benq 1640/165x (for Jitter) @8X
-Maximum 10% jitter
Unfortunately , I don't have any other HOF worthy scans with other MIDs than Panny TYG03 , so I will only post scans of better numbers than the first one
Maybe when I get some OPTODISCs __________________
Core i7 920 @4.25 with Noctua NH-D14
Asus Rampage III Extreme
6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T
HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire
3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity
OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue
X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital
Seasonic X-850
NZXT Phantom Red Edition
DVD Burners :
Samsung 203B SB03
NEC Optiarc AD-7200S
ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29
Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB
Retail Benq 1640 BSLB
LiteOn iHAS120
Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01
Boycott every faked/low quality media - Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 15
It took everybody a while to regain consciousness and pick themselves up off the floor after seeing your post #1 scan.Quote:Originally Posted by minaelromany Well , the rules seemed harsh to me because there is not much HOF scans here ......yet __________________
BenQ 1650 (BCIC) x2
Lite-On 160P6S (PS0C)
Lite-On 20A4P (9P59)
Pioneer 111D @ 111L (8.29)
Toshiba M1502 (J816) ripper
- Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 16
Judging jitter by it's maximum is flawed, you need to judge by average since spikes can happen.
Also, jitter scanning on DL can only really be done on a BenQ. I really cbf seeing a whole bunch of half jitter scans done by liteons here. Anyone with a liteon might as well ignore scanning jitter on DL discs because scanning the second layer doesn't work and the second layer is mostly where the highest errors and jitter are.__________________
Best DVD media:
Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R
Ritek G05 media =
My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.
- Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 17
Sorry i've kept out of here since i cannot compete but the rest of you need to post some scans beings how you want to change the rules
All type and no scans........
Edit:
Ok i'll burn a few and see what i can do........but i doubt i can compete. - Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 18
LOLQuote:Originally Posted by larc919 It took everybody a while to regain consciousness and pick themselves up off the floor after seeing your post #1 scan.
Well , by Maximum Jitter = <10% I meant maximum "Average" Jitter but I now think it should be stated : "Average Jitter = <9%Quote:Originally Posted by cd pirate Judging jitter by it's maximum is flawed, you need to judge by average since spikes can happen.
Also, jitter scanning on DL can only really be done on a BenQ. I really cbf seeing a whole bunch of half jitter scans done by liteons here. Anyone with a liteon might as well ignore scanning jitter on DL discs because scanning the second layer doesn't work and the second layer is mostly where the highest errors and jitter are.
I also stated in the previous post that DL scanning should be performed by Benq burners @8X because I am aware of the famous DL/Jitter/LiteOn/Second Layer dilemma
C'mon Bob , I am sure you have some spindles of very good quality media , just dig them outQuote:Originally Posted by Bob Sorry i've kept out of here since i cannot compete but the rest of you need to post some scans beings how you want to change the rules
All type and no scans........
Edit:
Ok i'll burn a few and see what i can do........but i doubt i can compete. or maybe you want to have a better scan __________________
Core i7 920 @4.25 with Noctua NH-D14
Asus Rampage III Extreme
6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T
HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire
3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity
OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue
X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital
Seasonic X-850
NZXT Phantom Red Edition
DVD Burners :
Samsung 203B SB03
NEC Optiarc AD-7200S
ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29
Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB
Retail Benq 1640 BSLB
LiteOn iHAS120
Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01
Boycott every faked/low quality media - Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 19
Well i have burned 3 of my best at least i thought best and i come no where near these requirements so on to burning and scanning to find the holy grail....... - Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 20
I think it would be smart to keep PIF to 200 or less, if anything raise PIE. Maximum average jitter of 9 sounds like a good idea too.Quote:Originally Posted by minaelromany Well , the rules seemed harsh to me because there is not much HOF scans here ......yet
I'd suggest these rules for DL burning :
-Minimum burning speed of 4X
-Maximum PIF <1000 total
-Preferably scanned with older Benq 1640/165x (for Jitter) @8X
-Maximum 10% jitter
Unfortunately , I don't have any other HOF worthy scans with other MIDs than Panny TYG03 , so I will only post scans of better numbers than the first one
Maybe when I get some OPTODISCs__________________
Current Drives:
BenQ DW-1650, DW-1620, & DW-1640 | LiteOn LH-20A1P, SHM-165H6S, DH20A3P, & SHW-160P6S | NEC ND-3500A, ND-3540A & AD-7200A| BTC 1016IM | Pioneer DVR-111L | Samsung SH-182D, SH-203B, & Samsung SH-202G | - Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 22
@ Minaelromany
Maybe you could get an editor to put your DL rules @ the beginning with the SL rules so they are readable & accessable when a person enters the thread & so everyone can understand them cause right now I think DL rules/requirements are not understandable.
BTW: Is there a minimum MB requirement on DL burns? Rakter has an awesome DL burn but I think it is a little short. - Posted:
08-03-2008
- # 23
Well i'm not creating a full disc for the pleasure of scanning lol.
They were way too expensive and i'm runing low on them.__________________
My burners:
LiteOn 20A1H,LiteOn 20A1S,Samsung 182M,Samsung SH-S222L, Optiarc AD-7200A, Pioneer DVR-218L - Posted:
10-03-2008
- # 24
Quote:Originally Posted by rakter Well i'm not creating a full disc for the pleasure of scanning lol.
They were way too expensive and i'm runing low on them.
Totally understandable. - Posted:
12-03-2008
- # 25
LITE-ON DH-20A4P 9P59A FBL EOS EOHT 5
Smart Burn - Enabled, Hyper Tuning - Disabled, Over Speed - Disabled, Online Hyper Tuning - Disabled
Sony DVD-R 16x SONY16D1 Burned at 16x
