Lite-On problem reading DVD

MaceHyena · 15-11-2004

Hi,
I have a Lite-On 1633s and I burned a copy of Painkiller to DVD for myself, (to free up hard drive space) but my drive refuses to read the DVD now. I just makes a horrible scraping noise when it trys to read the disk. I have tried the DVD is a different computer (regular LG DVD rom) at it reads fine there, the game installs fine and all.

can anyone suggest what might be the problem? i burned a game befor this a few days ago, to a DVD and my drive reads that fine. just this one disk it doesnt like. cant see it being a disk error or anything since other drives can read it fine. the media I used was one of the Lite-On blank dvd-r that came with the writter.

*C0deKing* · 15-11-2004

Welcome

It probably comes down to the quality of the burn, but it's unusual that the Liteon would not read it and another drive would. Download KProbe v2.4.2, run a BLER scan on the disc at 4x speed and post the result. You can get a better understanding of the result by reading this article.

BTW: To save and attach a KProbe scan:
After the scan is complete, click the small diskette button on the toolbar and at the save as dialog select a file type of .PNG. Attach the saved file to your post by using the "Manage Attachments" button in the "postreply", "Go Advanced" or "Quotepost" mode.

MaceHyena · 15-11-2004

sure ill do that when i get home from work. thanks alot.

MaceHyena · 15-11-2004

ok i tried that program, and it seems it wont read the disk. when i click the start test button nothing happens and it just says No Disk at the bottom.

edit. I tried it with a DVD+R i burned a few days ago (the DVD it wont read is a DVD-R) and here are the results:

MaceHyena · 18-11-2004

im still waiting for some help with this.....

*C0deKing* · 18-11-2004

Sorry, I missed your reply.

That burn is not good and unfortunately CMC media is not one of the Liteon favourites.

Can you tell us your system specs. Also how the drive is connected and what else is on the IDE. It's really coming down to bad media or a faulty drive.

Neksus · 18-11-2004

hello all

..hmm have the same problem i burn tdk dvd with my liteon and it cant read this on the other computer work ok here is NEro Info Tool www.protek.wz.cz/lite1.jpg www.protek.wz.cz/lite2.jpg www.protek.wz.cz/lite3.jpg please somone help

MaceHyena · 18-11-2004

system specs are:
Gigabyte 7N400 Pro / nForce2
AMD Athlon 2700+
1024mb Dual Channel DDR memory
GeForce 4 TI4400
1x 80gb 7200rpm SATA HD
1x 80gb 7200rpm Maxtor HD (IDE channel 1 Primary)
Lite-On SOHW 1633S (IDE Channel 2 Primary)

I can understand if it was the disk I displayed above that was faulty be its not. it works fine on my drive and my dvd rom in my other machine. Its the Lite-On brand DVD-R that came with my drive. Im asuming Lite-On's DVD-R,s are a good brand too....

im completely new to this so I really dont know what is good and what isnt. so any recommendations for what media to use and what firmware to use would be great.

Neksus · 18-11-2004

Someone help ?

*C0deKing* · 18-11-2004

The spiky appearance in the scan above looked like an issue cause by NForce IDE drivers. That's why I asked for you system details. Removing the NForce IDE drivers, by using rollback in device manager, is recommend, as they cause burn quality problems.

Neksus · 19-11-2004

C0deKing i have the main Xp IDE drivers and it dont work........ now i install nForce_5.10_WinXP2K_WHQL_international.exe and it is not working too

echh and on the other computer DVDRW works fine

*ala42* · 19-11-2004

@Neksus: Post the nero infotool text output and a kprobe 2.4.2 BLER scan at 4x read speed.

MaceHyena · 19-11-2004

can someone explain what exctly makes a "good" quality burn and a "bad" quality burn. I always thought that data was just burned to the disk and that was it.....

Neksus · 19-11-2004

www.protek.wz.cz/InfoTool.txt later kprobe... oh and now i have Nivida IDE ...so...

later nero info tool look my post earllier....

*ala42* · 19-11-2004

I just saw your signature Liteon 1633@1635, you probably ment Liteon 1633@1653. Very bad idea, the CS02 firmware is too young, go back to BS0K.

Neksus · 19-11-2004

Really ? hmm but on 1633s it dosent work yoo ;-( hmmm now in Primary Ide i have TYPE of transfer ULTRA DMA 2 ... www.protek.wz.cz/InfoTool.txt and i want to say that when I write CD-r or DVDRW...or some DVD-movie it ok liteon show all whats is on the cd/dvd...the problem is when i wrte DVD+R ( tdk 4X )

Neksus · 21-11-2004

Any suggestion ??

*please* · 21-11-2004

@ Neksus try removing all the ASPI 4.71 and install 4.60 in its place. go here for help

@ MaceHyena try reading Interpreting PI/PO error scans ..PI/PO now equal PI/PIF

Neksus · 21-11-2004

ok... i try this... and nothing

( ......hmm strange i burn today Verbatim and its ok... but this TDks wchich a I burn doesnt see.... but on other computer its ok !!

VERY STRANGE!

jake8131 · 21-11-2004

You have a mix of 4.60 and 4.71 aspi layers. Uninstall them and get FORCEASPI17 to install 4.60 all the way across. XP doesnt like 4.71 very much.

Neksus · 22-11-2004

jake8131 could you give me direct link to the files i should install ??

THX

*please* · 22-11-2004

@ Neksus
try this

Neksus · 22-11-2004

thx

15-11-2004	#1
MaceHyena New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12	Lite-On problem reading DVD Hi, I have a Lite-On 1633s and I burned a copy of Painkiller to DVD for myself, (to free up hard drive space) but my drive refuses to read the DVD now. I just makes a horrible scraping noise when it trys to read the disk. I have tried the DVD is a different computer (regular LG DVD rom) at it reads fine there, the game installs fine and all. can anyone suggest what might be the problem? i burned a game befor this a few days ago, to a DVD and my drive reads that fine. just this one disk it doesnt like. cant see it being a disk error or anything since other drives can read it fine. the media I used was one of the Lite-On blank dvd-r that came with the writter.

15-11-2004	#2
C0deKing Retired Senior Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In the pack Posts: 11,906	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD Welcome It probably comes down to the quality of the burn, but it's unusual that the Liteon would not read it and another drive would. Download KProbe v2.4.2, run a BLER scan on the disc at 4x speed and post the result. You can get a better understanding of the result by reading this article. BTW: To save and attach a KProbe scan: After the scan is complete, click the small diskette button on the toolbar and at the save as dialog select a file type of .PNG. Attach the saved file to your post by using the "Manage Attachments" button in the "postreply", "Go Advanced" or "Quotepost" mode. __________________ http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ LiteOn Tools: EEPROM Utility <-- New v6.2.0, Flash Utility <-- New v6.0.1, Settings Utility <-- New v1.2.1 Samsung Tools: Patch Utility <-- New v3.4.10 LiteOn Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced OverSpeed (EOS) \| Enhanced Online HyperTuning (EOHT) BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB) Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Remove RipLock (RLR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Retain book type (BS) \| Default DVD-ROM (ROMD) The man who does things makes mistakes, but he who doesn't makes the biggest mistake of all - doing nothing. Benjamin Franklin The Forum Rules Click HERE to join cdfreaks.com

15-11-2004	#3
MaceHyena New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD sure ill do that when i get home from work. thanks alot.

18-11-2004	#5
MaceHyena New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD im still waiting for some help with this.....

18-11-2004	#6
C0deKing Retired Senior Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In the pack Posts: 11,906	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD Sorry, I missed your reply. That burn is not good and unfortunately CMC media is not one of the Liteon favourites. Can you tell us your system specs. Also how the drive is connected and what else is on the IDE. It's really coming down to bad media or a faulty drive. __________________ http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ LiteOn Tools: EEPROM Utility <-- New v6.2.0, Flash Utility <-- New v6.0.1, Settings Utility <-- New v1.2.1 Samsung Tools: Patch Utility <-- New v3.4.10 LiteOn Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced OverSpeed (EOS) \| Enhanced Online HyperTuning (EOHT) BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB) Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Remove RipLock (RLR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Retain book type (BS) \| Default DVD-ROM (ROMD) The man who does things makes mistakes, but he who doesn't makes the biggest mistake of all - doing nothing. Benjamin Franklin The Forum Rules Click HERE to join cdfreaks.com

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18-11-2004	#7
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD hello all ..hmm have the same problem i burn tdk dvd with my liteon and it cant read this on the other computer work ok here is NEro Info Tool www.protek.wz.cz/lite1.jpg www.protek.wz.cz/lite2.jpg www.protek.wz.cz/lite3.jpg please somone help

18-11-2004	#8
MaceHyena New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD system specs are: Gigabyte 7N400 Pro / nForce2 AMD Athlon 2700+ 1024mb Dual Channel DDR memory GeForce 4 TI4400 1x 80gb 7200rpm SATA HD 1x 80gb 7200rpm Maxtor HD (IDE channel 1 Primary) Lite-On SOHW 1633S (IDE Channel 2 Primary) I can understand if it was the disk I displayed above that was faulty be its not. it works fine on my drive and my dvd rom in my other machine. Its the Lite-On brand DVD-R that came with my drive. Im asuming Lite-On's DVD-R,s are a good brand too.... im completely new to this so I really dont know what is good and what isnt. so any recommendations for what media to use and what firmware to use would be great.

18-11-2004	#9
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD Someone help ? __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2

18-11-2004	#10
C0deKing Retired Senior Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In the pack Posts: 11,906	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD The spiky appearance in the scan above looked like an issue cause by NForce IDE drivers. That's why I asked for you system details. Removing the NForce IDE drivers, by using rollback in device manager, is recommend, as they cause burn quality problems. __________________ http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ LiteOn Tools: EEPROM Utility <-- New v6.2.0, Flash Utility <-- New v6.0.1, Settings Utility <-- New v1.2.1 Samsung Tools: Patch Utility <-- New v3.4.10 LiteOn Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced OverSpeed (EOS) \| Enhanced Online HyperTuning (EOHT) BenQ Patches: Fast Burn (FB) \| Enhanced SolidBurn (ESB) Samsung Patches: Fast Read (FR) \| Remove RipLock (RLR) \| Fast Burn (FB) \| Retain book type (BS) \| Default DVD-ROM (ROMD) The man who does things makes mistakes, but he who doesn't makes the biggest mistake of all - doing nothing. Benjamin Franklin The Forum Rules Click HERE to join cdfreaks.com

19-11-2004	#11
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD C0deKing i have the main Xp IDE drivers and it dont work........ now i install nForce_5.10_WinXP2K_WHQL_international.exe and it is not working too echh and on the other computer DVDRW works fine __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2

19-11-2004	#12
ala42 MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Land of Zensursula Posts: 4,993	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD @Neksus: Post the nero infotool text output and a kprobe 2.4.2 BLER scan at 4x read speed.

19-11-2004	#13
MaceHyena New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD can someone explain what exctly makes a "good" quality burn and a "bad" quality burn. I always thought that data was just burned to the disk and that was it.....

19-11-2004	#14
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD www.protek.wz.cz/InfoTool.txt later kprobe... oh and now i have Nivida IDE ...so... later nero info tool look my post earllier.... __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2

19-11-2004	#15
ala42 MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Land of Zensursula Posts: 4,993	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD I just saw your signature Liteon 1633@1635, you probably ment Liteon 1633@1653. Very bad idea, the CS02 firmware is too young, go back to BS0K.

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19-11-2004	#16
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD Really ? hmm but on 1633s it dosent work yoo ;-( hmmm now in Primary Ide i have TYPE of transfer ULTRA DMA 2 ... www.protek.wz.cz/InfoTool.txt and i want to say that when I write CD-r or DVDRW...or some DVD-movie it ok liteon show all whats is on the cd/dvd...the problem is when i wrte DVD+R ( tdk 4X ) __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2

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Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD Any suggestion ?? __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2

21-11-2004	#18
please MyCE Resident Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,231	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD @ Neksus try removing all the ASPI 4.71 and install 4.60 in its place. go here for help @ MaceHyena try reading Interpreting PI/PO error scans ..PI/PO now equal PI/PIF

21-11-2004	#19
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD ok... i try this... and nothing ( ......hmm strange i burn today Verbatim and its ok... but this TDks wchich a I burn doesnt see.... but on other computer its ok !! VERY STRANGE! __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2 Last edited by Neksus; 21-11-2004 at 16:05.

21-11-2004	#20
jake8131 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Harvel, Il Posts: 695	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD You have a mix of 4.60 and 4.71 aspi layers. Uninstall them and get FORCEASPI17 to install 4.60 all the way across. XP doesnt like 4.71 very much.

22-11-2004	#21
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD jake8131 could you give me direct link to the files i should install ??THX __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2

22-11-2004	#23
Neksus New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Re: Lite-On problem reading DVD thx __________________ Barton 2500 XP== 512 DDR Kingstone== ATI Radeon 9800se ==2X 120 GB Seagate (Raid)==SB live ==Liteon 1633@1635 DVDRW ==Soltek Sl 75 DRv /Nforce2