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Old Posted: 13-02-2007
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Mitsubishi +R 16x
MCC004 @16x
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Old Posted: 13-02-2007
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but the scansion they go made at 4x or 8x whit the LH-20A1H?
Old Posted: 13-02-2007
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The forum standard is 8x but unfortunate Nero CD/DVD Speed will only do jitter scanning at a slow 4x.
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Old Posted: 13-02-2007
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2601, looks like a good drive. Thanks for the scans.
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Old Posted: 15-02-2007
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Verbatim +R 16x
YUDEN000T03 @20x
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MCC03RG20 @16x
Old Posted: 25-02-2007
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My drive loves the Verbatim MCC004 +R disc's but I think it hates the TYGO3 -R disc's here is some scans of both
disc's funny thing is it will not do the jitter test on -R @ 4x

Both disc's were burned @8x
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File Type: png MCC004 4x scan.png (40.4 KB, 2042 views)
File Type: png TYGO3 20A1S scan.png (41.7 KB, 2017 views)

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Old Posted: 25-02-2007
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is this drive going to better somehow than the crappy LH-201AH I had before

I got sucked in by liteon and it was the worst drive I ever had..coasters on good media, LS would lock the drive to 6x burning

I want a SATA drive and would like the 20x speed but ....
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Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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nealh, sounds like you just got a bad drive. I get excellent results from my 20A1H using good media and even quite acceptable results using fake media. Jitter results are also very good with the 20A1H.

Anyway, back to the 20A1S. I'd be interested to know what sort of burst rate this drive reports, if someone could be so kind as to check it.
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Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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The burst rate is around 60 MB.
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Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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The burst rate is around 60 MB.
Ah, nice. Thanks ala42.
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Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Here is my average burst rate with the 20A1S 68 - 69
Some more media scans to follow
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Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Verbatim branded
MCC O3RG20 -R
burned @ 16x
lead in time: 54 seconds
total burn time: 6:02

Still can not get any -R disc to do a jitter test @4x
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File Type: png MCC 03RG20 test burn 1.png (42.3 KB, 1949 views)
File Type: png MCC 03RG20 4x quality test 2.png (41.8 KB, 1960 views)
File Type: png MCC 03RG20 TRT test 1.png (34.2 KB, 1946 views)
File Type: png MCC 03RG20 quality test 1.png (41.9 KB, 1931 views)
Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Quote:
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nealh, sounds like you just got a bad drive. I get excellent results from my 20A1H using good media and even quite acceptable results using fake media. Jitter results are also very good with the 20A1H.

Anyway, back to the 20A1S. I'd be interested to know what sort of burst rate this drive reports, if someone could be so kind as to check it.
Nope..I had the same problems many members were reporting...used LL05 fw

maybe the drive is better but I was not impressed ...as compared to the H22N/1655 it was an inferior drive on the same media at same burn speeds

not sure if the Liteon SATA will be a better drive than Samsung SH S183L
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Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Verbatim branded
PAP6 MCC 004 +R
Burned @12x
lead in time: 34 seconds
total burn time: 7:05

First disk @16x did the same thing on this drive as they do on my 20A1P and
160P6S drives @16x, 12x, or even 8x most of the time using the PAP6 Verbatim's
at least this drive did burn it at 12x
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File Type: png MCC 004 PAP6 write error 16x.png (40.5 KB, 1925 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 PAP6 write 12x.png (42.2 KB, 1922 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 PAP6 quality scan 8x.png (48.0 KB, 1924 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 PAP6 quality scan 4x.png (48.2 KB, 1919 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 PAP6 TRT scan.png (34.3 KB, 1897 views)
Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Quote:
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...not sure if the Liteon SATA will be a better drive than Samsung SH S183L
Hard to believe it will be any better because the "S" optical hardware and main chip is the same as in "P" drives.
And UDMA-5 interface just doesn't matter for 20x burns.
Linky, use Babelfish to translate from japanese to english.

But then we always have C0deKing tweaking firmwares, so you never know.
Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Okay here is one more
TY- TYGO2
Burned @8x
lead in time: 51 seconds
total burn time: 8:27
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File Type: png TYGO2 8x quality scan.png (41.9 KB, 1897 views)
File Type: png TYGO2 4x quality scan.png (41.3 KB, 1882 views)
File Type: png TYGO2 TRT scan.png (34.2 KB, 1886 views)
Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Okay last one for now
Verbatim branded -R MCC 02RG20
Burned @8x
lead in time: 54 seconds
total burn time: 8:23
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File Type: png MCC 02RG20 8x quality scan.png (42.6 KB, 1874 views)
File Type: png MCC O2RG20 4x quality scan.png (41.5 KB, 1867 views)
File Type: png MCC O2RG20 TRT scan.png (34.4 KB, 1860 views)
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Quote:
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Hard to believe it will be any better because the "S" optical hardware and main chip is the same as in "P" drives.
And UDMA-5 interface just doesn't matter for 20x burns.
Linky, use Babelfish to translate from japanese to english.

But then we always have C0deKing tweaking firmwares, so you never know.
Has he tweaked the LH-201AS fw or for that matter the LH-201AH?
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Quote:
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Has he tweaked the LH-201AS fw or for that matter the LH-201AH?
@nealh
yep he has done some tweaking fast burn and over speed get it right here
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Old Posted: 26-02-2007
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Quote:
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not sure if the Liteon SATA will be a better drive than Samsung SH S183L
Going off topic: nealh I bought the Samsung 183L from BB. So far the drive is great. I posted only 2 scans so far.
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Can somebody post some scans with Dual Layer media?
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Going off topic: nealh I bought the Samsung 183L from BB. So far the drive is great. I posted only 2 scans so far.
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Okay here is some scans from the first 20x burn that I've tried with the drive not really all that bad of a burn
after I updated the FW with C0deKing's fb eos 9L02. I've been wondering about something and that is the 8x
scanning ability of these newer generation 20A1P / S drives. It seems like I always get somewhat larger PIF
blocks on -R at the beginning of the disc on either of my drives the 20A1P or the 20A1S over what the 160P6S
drive reports at 8x on -R media. I get the larger PIF blocks no matter what speed the disc was burned at except
when scanned on the 160P6S drive. I've included a scan of the same disc that was scanned on the 20A1S at 8x
and then was scanned on the 160P6S quite a bit of difference at the start of the disc its just about the same on
any -R disc scanned on both drives. That really makes me wonder which is the more accurate scanner at 8x the
160P series or the 20A1 series of drive.

Well anyway on with the scans
C0deKing's fb eos 9L02
Verbatim MCC 003RG20
burned @20x
lead in time: 1 minute
total burn time: 5.19
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File Type: png MCC 003RG20 20x burn 4x scan.png (41.7 KB, 1794 views)
File Type: png MCC 003RG20 20x burn 8x scan.png (42.1 KB, 1808 views)
File Type: png MCC 003RG20 20x burn TRT scan.png (34.2 KB, 1788 views)
File Type: png MCC 003RG20 20x burn 8x scan on 160P6S.png (42.1 KB, 1789 views)
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