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Old Posted: 13-12-2006
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LH-181P - GL0C
- Maxell - ProDisc F02 -R x16 @ x18
- All On - all +R set to ROM
- "give away" media
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Old Posted: 13-12-2006
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Prodisc F02 is good media
Old Posted: 14-12-2006
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Prodisc F02 is good media

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I've only had one batch of F02, oddly enough Maxell as well. For the first something-odd discs in the spindle, the plant had mis-stamped/distributed the dye, with a visible pinpoint defect in the dye that immediately caused the QS to drop to 0. The others turned out like this (yes, it's on one of the Sammy 18x drives and not the 18A1P, but it still proves my point...). It's rather iffy media.

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Old Posted: 14-12-2006
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LH-181P; GL0C; All On; +R set to ROM
MEMOREX - RITEK F1 -R x16 @ x18

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Old Posted: 14-12-2006
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I have ProdiscF02 labeled Datawrite, no probs so far
Old Posted: 14-12-2006
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Here's a fuji branded ritekf1 burned at full speed with all on in smartburn.
Old Posted: 14-12-2006
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Here's the same above disc but scanned in my Liteon 165P6S. Results look much better with this scan.
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Old Posted: 15-12-2006
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Here's the same above disc but scanned in my Liteon 165P6S. Results look much better with this scan.
It is an example that the Lite-On LH-18A1P is not at all an optimistic scanner. Though I have only a BenQ 1655 for comparison, the PIE averages of the 18A1P are more often higher than lower compared with those of the BenQ drive (with the same discs of course).
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Old Posted: 15-12-2006
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It's usually an indication that the drive is not as good a reader and is possibly not as tolerant to high jitter or low contrast.
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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Most of the time the Lite-on is actually more optomistic when scanning, but not here. I'm keeping the disc though, should be alright - TRT is perfect. Prodisc made Verbatim MCC004 @ 18x. SmartBurn off, force HT off, OHT off, overspeed on.
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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Most of the time the Lite-on is actually more optomistic when scanning, but not here. I'm keeping the disc though, should be alright - TRT is perfect. Prodisc made Verbatim MCC004 @ 18x. SmartBurn off, force HT off, OHT off, overspeed on.
maybe a slower burn speed might get rid of the PIF spikes at the end of your burn but the BenQ shows no spikes, might not be a reliable scan because of the high jitter Max. 12x works very well for me on Prodisc/MCC004 I find the CMC MAG./MCC004 is great for 18x burning.
Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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but the BenQ shows no spikes, might not be a reliable scan because of the high jitter Max.
At that part of the burn jitter looks to be around 10% though A lot more options to try out still - will be trying more 12x and 16x burns

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White hub printable Verbatim DatalifePlus 50 spindle 8x dvd-r burnt at 12x same settings as 2 posts up.
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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LH-18A1P - GL0C
OHT On
Taiyo Yuden -R 16x (TYG03 as sold by Panasonic) @ 16x
Scanned in LH-18A1P and Plextor PX-760 (PIE/POE, PIF, Beta/Jitter)

The LiteOn sees a lot mor PIE and the drives do not really agree when it comes to PIF spikes.
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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LH-181P; GL0C; All On; +R set to ROM
Memorex - MCC003 +R x8 @ x12

- Oldie media, printable version, found at back of shelf
- dang x4 scan speed to get jitter is slooooooooooooooow!
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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LH-18A1P - GL0B
SB On, HT Off, OHT Off, OS On
Verbatim DVD+R MCC 004 x16@x18
Scanned in LH-18A1P, SHM-165P6S, & Plextor PX-760
Transfer Rate Test Used SONY AW-G170A

First Burn Straight Out Of The Box (This Drive Maybe A Keeper)
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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LH-18A1P - GL0B
SB On, HT Off, OHT Off, OS Off
Verbatim DVD+R MCC 004 16x
Scanned in LH-18A1P, SHM-165P6S, & Plextor PX-760
Transfer Rate Test Used SONY AW-G170A

Second Burn From This Drive.
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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is this a good burn Media Panasonic 1-16x TY0G DVD-R
the burner is in a Belkin USB enclosure
Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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Not really good, almost 2000 PIF
Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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I wouldn't say its bad for an 18X burn, I bet that disc is just as playable as one with less PIFs. I have not had such great results @ 18X and 20X myself, but for burning at that speed you are going to have to go some to get alot better.
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Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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But isnt' this a 8x speed burn? 2000 PIF are a bit much for an 8x burn, even when scanned @8x speed. Also I would rather dislike the fact that the mass of PIF are at the beginning of the disc and not at the end. That's usually a signal that something is wrong.
Old Posted: 16-12-2006
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But isnt' this a 8x speed burn? 2000 PIF are a bit much for an 8x burn, even when scanned @8x speed. Also I would rather dislike the fact that the mass of PIF are at the beginning of the disc and not at the end. That's usually a signal that something is wrong.
Sorry hwp you are right, I did not look above, my mistake. Yes you are right, it is a little poor for an 8X burn.
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Old Posted: 17-12-2006
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LH-181P; GL0C; All On; +R set to ROM
TDK - TTH02 -R x16 (printable) @ x18
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Old Posted: 17-12-2006
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How can I tell when Online HyperTuning is enabled? I have disabled it, but seems to be still running for +r ? The following images are both created with OHT off, yet only the -r appears to have it off?
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Old Posted: 17-12-2006
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LH-181P; GL0C; All On; +R set to ROM
IMATION - CMCMAG M01 +R x16 @ x18

- looks like this particular media/batch is not up to snuff for x18 burns
- edit: looks like the old "foggy dye" at the edge......
Old Posted: 17-12-2006
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