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Plextor Writer Discuss, Plextor PX-760 Review (by HWP) at CD and DVD Writers forum; Verbatim +R 16x (MCC 004 00) as sold by Verbatim PX-760a, FW 1.04 AS: AUTO (did not create strategy, 18x not supported by AS) Burn speed 18x CAV, no slowdown Compared to FW 1.03 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...29&postcount=4 a bit less PIPO errors. Good burn. TA-Test says: good 4/3, good 5/3, very good

Old Posted: 11-08-2006
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Verbatim +R 16x (MCC 004 00) as sold by Verbatim
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: AUTO (did not create strategy, 18x not supported by AS)
Burn speed 18x CAV, no slowdown

Compared to FW 1.03 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...29&postcount=4 a bit less PIPO errors.

Good burn. TA-Test says: good 4/3, good 5/3, very good 5/4. A 716 says very good across the disc.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans:
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File Type: png MCC 004 00 (Verbatim) +R16 18x W.png (19.7 KB, 423 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 00 (Verbatim) +R16 18x B.png (14.4 KB, 421 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 00 (Verbatim) +R16 18x S1.png (13.8 KB, 420 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 00 (Verbatim) +R16 18x BJ.png (18.0 KB, 421 views)
File Type: png MCC 004 00 (Verbatim) +R16 18x R.png (13.9 KB, 422 views)
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Old Posted: 11-08-2006
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Taiyo Yuden -R 16x (TYG03) sold as Panasonic
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: AUTO (did not create strategy, 18x not supported by AS)
Burn speed 18x CAV, no slowdown

Comparison to 18x on earlier batch of media with FW 1.03: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...20&postcount=2
Comparison to 18x on same batch of media with FW 1.03 but BP off: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...7&postcount=40

Very good burn. TA-Test says: very good 5/4, very good 5/4, good 4/3. No readback problems in the 760. The 716 had some problems. Interestingly different tries produced different reading-curves, so the problem must be of a general type and not relate directly to a certain part of the media.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (760, 716) scans:
Old Posted: 11-08-2006
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Addendum to the 18x Yuden T03 000 burn as shown here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...9&postcount=50

Upon visual inspection of the writing surface it seems there is a fault in the dye in one spot at the very outside of the disc. There is a cloud like discolored area. The slowdown is therefore likely to be attributed to a physical problem of the media.
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Taiyo Yuden +R 16x (Yuden000 T03 00) as sold by TDK
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: AUTO (did create strategy)
Burn speed 16x CAV, no slowdown

Very good burn. TA-Test says: good 4/3, good 3/3, very good 4/4.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans:
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File Type: png Yuden000 T03 00 (TDK) +R16 16x W.png (19.2 KB, 413 views)
File Type: png Yuden000 T03 00 (TDK) +R16 16x B.png (15.4 KB, 411 views)
File Type: png Yuden000 T03 00 (TDK) +R16 16x S1.png (13.7 KB, 410 views)
File Type: png Yuden000 T03 00 (TDK) +R16 16x BJ.png (17.4 KB, 411 views)
File Type: png Yuden000 T03 00 (TDK) +R16 16x R.png (14.1 KB, 411 views)
Old Posted: 11-08-2006
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Taiyo Yuden -R 4x (Yuden TYG01) as sold by Panasonic
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did create strategy)
Burn speed 4x CLV, no slowdown (8x overspeed is not offered)

Comparison to an AS burn with with FW 1.03: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=23

TA-Test says very good 5/4 across the whole disc, which is an improvement.

Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans:
Old Posted: 12-08-2006
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Moser Baer India -R 16x (MBI 03RG40) as sold by Imation (labelled made in India)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did create 12x strategy)
Burn speed 16x CAV, slowed down as per see writing graph

Compared to a AS burn with FW 1.03 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...4&postcount=24 the jump in Beta at the speed drop to 12x P-CAVis more moderate and there is no drop to 8x.

TA-Test says very good 5/4, very good 5/4, good 5/3. Some readback speed-drops for the 716.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans:
Old Posted: 12-08-2006
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Moser Baer India +R 16x (MBIPG101 R05 01 ) as sold by Imation (labelled made in India)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did create strategy)
Burn speed 16x CLV, no slowdown

Compared to an AS burn with FW 1.03 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=26 PIE are lower in the 2-3GB area and Jitter is lower too, accoring to TA-Test.

TA-Test says very good 5/4, very good 5/4, very good 4/4. No readback speed-drops in the 716.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter and Read (716) scans:
Old Posted: 12-08-2006
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Infomedia +R 16x (INFOME R30 00) as sold by Philips (labelled made in Taiwan)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did create strategy)
Burn speed 16x CLV, slowdown to 12x as in writing-graph.

Compared to an AS burn with FW 1.03 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...8&postcount=27 the speed drop to 12x occurred earlier but resulted in better TA results.

TA-Test says very good across the disc 4/4, 5/4, 4/4. Some readback speed-drops in the 716.
Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans:
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CMC Magnetics -R 16x (CMC MAG AM3) as sold by Philips (labelled made in Taiwan)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did create 12x strategy)
Burn speed selected 16x CAV, slowed to 12x

Compared to an AS burn with FW 1.02 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=28 this shows a significant increase in quality. TA-Test says very good (4/4) across the disc.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans:
Old Posted: 12-08-2006
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Verbatim +RDL 8x (MKM 003 00) as sold by Verbatim
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did not create strategy, AS does not support DL)
Burn speed 10x P-CAV, slowdowns as in writing-graph

Beta/Jitter scan resulted in an error at the layer break so i had to scan in a 716. It looks like FW 1.04 still does not fix that bug. Since the 716 is only an average reader this makes the B/J scan look worse than when scanning with the 760 (at least on the first layer where scanning worked). Keep this in mind when comparing the results.

Beta still does not look very good (way to low). However TA-Test says: good 4/3, not good 2/3, good 3/3 , very good 5/4, very good 5/4, good 4/3 and a 716 has no problems reading this. IMHO nothing has been done in this FW to improve high speed DL writing, which is a shame.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter (716), Read (716) scans:
Old Posted: 12-08-2006
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In this posting: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...8&postcount=59 it should, of course, read; "Compared to an AS burn with FW 1.03 ..."
Old Posted: 12-08-2006
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Plextor 650MB 24x USRW (Mitsubishi Chemicals Type 4)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
Burn speed 24x Z-CLV, no slowdown

Very low C1 error rates (except at the beginning) for USRW media. In comparison to FW 1.03 ( http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...59&postcount=6) the rates are even a bit lower and the difference between a burn after a full erase and a quick erase has even become smaller.

C1/C2 scan for a burn after a full erase, C1/C2 scan for a burn after a quick erase:
Old Posted: 13-08-2006
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Verbatim +RDL 8x (MKM 003 00) as sold by Verbatim
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did not create strategy, AS does not support DL)
Burn speed 6x CLV, no slowdown

This time Beta/Jitter scan did not fail at the layer break. TA-Test says: good 4/3, good 3/3; very good 5/4, very good 5/4.

Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, scans:
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File Type: png MKM 003 00 (Verbatim) +RDL8 6x B.png (18.2 KB, 352 views)
File Type: png MKM 003 00 (Verbatim) +RDL8 6x S1.png (15.6 KB, 352 views)
File Type: png MKM 003 00 (Verbatim) +RDL8 6x BJ.png (18.1 KB, 354 views)
Old Posted: 13-08-2006
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Taiyo Yuden +R 8x (Yuden000 T02 00) as sold by Plextor
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did create strategy)
Burn speed 8x P-CAV, no slowdown

Compared to an AS burn with FW 1.03: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...9&postcount=19

TA-Test says very good 5/4, not good 4/2, good 4/3

Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter:
Old Posted: 13-08-2006
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TDK -R 16x (TDK TTH02)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did create strategy)
Burn speed selected 16x CAV, slowdowns as per writing-graph.

Compared to an AS burn with FW 1.03: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...9&postcount=33

Very good burn. TA-Test says: good 5/3, very good 5/4, very good 5/4. PoweRec decided to slow down at the very end but no big jump in Beta this time.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter, Read (716) scans:
Old Posted: 13-08-2006
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Verbatim +RDL 2.4x (MKM 001 00)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: Auto (did not create strategy, AS does not support DL)
Burn speed 6x CLV, no slowdown

Compare to FW 1.03 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...26&postcount=7 this seems slightly better (especially Beta).

Good result.TA-Test says "good" across the disc and both layers. But the 760 reads this only 2x, the 755 at a full 3-8x.

Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter,scans:
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File Type: png MKM 001 00 (Verbatim) +RDL2_4 6x B.png (17.0 KB, 344 views)
File Type: png MKM 001 00 (Verbatim) +RDL2_4 6x S1.png (15.2 KB, 345 views)
File Type: png MKM 001 00 (Verbatim) +RDL2_4 6x BJ.png (18.9 KB, 340 views)
Old Posted: 14-08-2006
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Taiyo Yuden Type 1 700MB 48x as sold by Verbatim
PX-760a, FW 1.04
Burn speed 48x CAV, no slowdown

Found these in a store today. Verbatim Europe is selling Yuden in their typical cakebox (50pcs). Reorder Nr. 43351, Made in Japan and the packaging says nothing about "advanced Azo" (as it does in some cases of Yuden DVD sold by Verbatim )

Anyway, it's always amazing to see the results when you pair up Yuden with Plextor. FE/TE shows us truly superb mechanical characteristics to begin with. As for the result we're looking at something of a personal record: C1 1906 total, 0.4 average.

FE/TE, C1/C2, Beta/Jitter scans:
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File Type: png CD Yuden T1 700 (Verbatim) 52x 48x C.png (17.9 KB, 312 views)
File Type: png CD Yuden T1 700 (Verbatim) 52x 48x BJ.png (16.2 KB, 313 views)
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Quote:
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Found these in a store today. Verbatim Europe is selling Yuden in their typical cakebox (50pcs). Reorder Nr. 43351, Made in Japan and the packaging says nothing about "advanced Azo" (as it does in some cases of Yuden DVD sold by Verbatim )
Makes sense, as TY doesn't use Azo dye for its CD-Rs.
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Makes sense, as TY doesn't use Azo dye for its CD-Rs.
AFAIK neither do they in their DVD-Rs
Old Posted: 15-08-2006
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great review thx.....

I found Something odd in FW 1.04.
Look to the write line in PlexTools with FW 1.03....is smoth.....in FW 1.04 write line is frayed..(except power rec pin).......

My plex with fw 1.04 produce same result......
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Old Posted: 15-08-2006
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I found Something odd in FW 1.04.
Look to the write line in PlexTools with FW 1.03....is smoth.....in FW 1.04 write line is frayed..(except power rec pin).......
Yes, other have found that too: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=189245&page=2
Old Posted: 16-08-2006
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Taiyo Yuden T03 still not good ... Pi's over 30-50 , while with the 716A i get lower than 10-15.
I burned about 5 discs and all showed the same results.
Old Posted: 17-08-2006
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Taiyo Yuden Type 1 700MB 48x as sold by Verbatim
PX-760a, FW 1.04
GigaRec 1.3x
Burn speed 8x CLV, no slowdown

C1/C2, Beta/Jitter scans:
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File Type: png CD Yuden T1 700 (Verbatim) 52x 8x GR13 C.png (18.0 KB, 259 views)
File Type: png CD Yuden T1 700 (Verbatim) 52x 8x GR13 BJ.png (19.0 KB, 255 views)
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Taiyo Yuden Type 1 700MB 48x as sold by Verbatim
PX-760a, FW 1.04
GigaRec 0.7x
Burn speed 8x CLV, no slowdown

C1/C2, Beta/Jitter scans:
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File Type: png CD Yuden T1 700 (Verbatim) 52x 8x GR07 C.png (19.3 KB, 255 views)
File Type: png CD Yuden T1 700 (Verbatim) 52x 8x GR07 BJ.png (18.0 KB, 257 views)
Old Posted: 19-08-2006
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Sony +R 16x (Sony D21 00)
PX-760a, FW 1.04
AS: AUTO (did create 16x strategy)
Burn speed 16x CAV, no slowdown

Compared to 760a with FW 1.03: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...4&postcount=49

Good burn. TA-Test says good 4/3, good 5/3, good 3/3.

Writing, Burst, Sum1, Beta/Jitter scans:
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File Type: png Sony D21 00 (Sony) +R 16x 16x W.png (19.1 KB, 246 views)
File Type: png Sony D21 00 (Sony) +R 16x 16x B.png (16.7 KB, 247 views)
File Type: png Sony D21 00 (Sony) +R 16x 16x S1.png (13.9 KB, 245 views)
File Type: png Sony D21 00 (Sony) +R 16x 16x BJ.png (17.3 KB, 246 views)
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