Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW?

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Plextor Writer Discuss, Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? at CD and DVD Writers forum; Hi all! Sorry for this noob question..... As I can't buy a PX Premium CDRW to make 1:1 copies of SecuRom games using Blindwrite, will the Plextor PX-716A DVD burner do the trick? Thanks!

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DixieNormous (New on Forum)
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Posted: 11-01-2006
Hi all!
Sorry for this noob question.....
As I can't buy a PX Premium CDRW to make 1:1 copies of SecuRom games using Blindwrite, will the Plextor PX-716A DVD burner do the trick?
Thanks!
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Juhuslik (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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Posted: 11-01-2006
Probably it will not do that
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2Off3 (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 11-01-2006
Hi
my PX-716A can burn Securom with Blindwrite (Barbie Games)
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dermoritz (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 13-01-2006
what i know about securom (at least the old versions) and blindwrite: blindwrite abuses the gigarec function to reproduce the physical structure or at least the behavior of it(different relative accesstimes of tracks). so all drive with "gigarec" should have the same capabilities, imho.
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alexnoe (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 13-01-2006
It doesn't work, though the question is if the drive can't do it or if VSO was threatened
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2Off3 (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 13-01-2006
Hi
what version do you use ?
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Posted: 13-01-2006
I don't know if the PX-716 can make copies of securom protectet discs - but the new PX-755 can!
I made a copy of an securom v7 protectet game, and it works just fine

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alexnoe (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 13-01-2006
The question was a bit misphrased: Emulation doesn't count. The Plextor Premium can make correct copies of SecuROM 4.8 discs which *really* work, which don't require some kind of emulation.
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I remember VSO saying it didn't work because Plextor prevented it from working. Since Plextor Europe is customer friendly, you might want to guess which Plextor departement was that...
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DixieNormous (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-01-2006
Hey Sidewinder
Thanks for that info.....did you use any emulation? Have you tested your copy of the Securom v 7 game in another PC which doesn't have Blindwrite installed? Incidentally, what game did you copy? And what version of Blindwrite did you use?
Given that you were able to make a copy, how did you do the .bwa file? Did you use the BWA builder, or did you use the Alcohol technique and convert to .bwa file?
Thanks!
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Cyker (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 16-01-2006
Apparently, there was a 'bug' (Feature! ) in the Premium which let a program reset the GigaRec settings on the fly during a burn - This is what enabled BlindWrite to tweak the track lengths etc.

In the 716, this 'bug' as sadly fixed which is that, while the 716 can do GigaRec, it can't do track-length alterations because the GigaRec settings is fixed from the start of the burn to the end.

The 716 can still use the Twin Peaks method to successfully copy most things 'tho.
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-=sidewinder=- (New on Forum)
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Posted: 16-01-2006
I usedthis guide to made a backup of "Vietcong 2".
Software was Blindwrite 5.2.16 and Alcohol 1.9.5.
I did not test it on other computers, but I think it is a 1:1 copy

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2Off3 (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 16-01-2006
Hi
there is NO Emu Soft installed i used an old VSO version ....497 or so !!




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The question was a bit misphrased: Emulation doesn't count. The Plextor Premium can make correct copies of SecuROM 4.8 discs which *really* work, which don't require some kind of emulation.
I remember VSO saying it didn't work because Plextor prevented it from working. Since Plextor Europe is customer friendly, you might want to guess which Plextor departement was that...
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DixieNormous (New on Forum)
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Posted: 17-01-2006
Hey Sidewinder
I am looking for internet resellers for the PX-755... any suggestions?
Thanks
Dixie
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alexnoe (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 17-01-2006
www.alternate.de <= It has been there for a month already
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How a troll wants to force users of Linux to buy Windows just to make use of Plextor DVD writer unique functions
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PxScan/PxView (compatible to Premium, PX-712, PX-714, PX-716), now with built-in picture file output
Bitsetting via Autostart
My Blog about DADVSI (new french copyright)
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Posted: 17-01-2006
I bought mine at www.e-bug.de for 95 €
they delivered 24 h after release of the PX-755 in Europe.
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