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Plextor Writer Discuss, New recorder: PX-810SA at CD and DVD Writers forum; Here: http://www.plextor.be/products/px-81...hoice=PX-810SA

Old Posted: 09-05-2007
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http://www.plextor.be/products/px-81...hoice=PX-810SA
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Old Posted: 09-05-2007
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Wow, what could that be? Pioneer DVR-212 maybe?
(Guessed because it had 10x DVD+/-R DL and only 40x CD-R.)
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Yes, it looks like a Pioneer. Dimensions (180mm long, that's pretty unique) and weight (0.9kg) fit.
Old Posted: 09-05-2007
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Yes, it looks like a Pioneer. Dimensions (180mm long, that's pretty unique) and weight (0.9kg) fit.
A Pioneer rebadged as a Plextor? That's just so...wrong. I've always for some reason seen Plextor and Pioneer as enemies.
Old Posted: 09-05-2007
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Well, they're selling out themselves now

Let's hope for a DVD Premium Until then, I'll have to live with my 716s
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Old Posted: 10-05-2007
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Why didn't Plextor release the DVR-112 as the PX-800A???





PX-810SA: A great, really great decision! Thumbs up for Plextor.





But still there's a problem: What about "reliable" scanning?



Look at the different numbers 800/810. Is a PX-810A coming? A DVR-112 PX-810A?
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Well the dimensions and specs (writing methods like CAV/PCAV/CLV/ZCLV) are just the same as my Pioneer 112. The tray also seems to look very identical...
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Have you noticed? No bulk version.
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Old Posted: 11-05-2007
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Well, they're selling out themselves now

Let's hope for a DVD Premium Until then, I'll have to live with my 716s
I thought the 760A was the DVD premium? At least that was the last drive with all the Plextools stuff.
Old Posted: 11-05-2007
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I meant something like the Plextor Premium, with 8 MB buffer and spikeless burning.
They'd just need to update the 716 design a little bit (with AutoStrategy and stuff like that) and it would be fine.
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Old Posted: 11-05-2007
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Are they having problems with Optiarc already to switch to Pioneer this soon? Or they'll just sell anything these days?
Old Posted: 11-05-2007
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Maybe the 810 and 800 drives are kind of a Premium and Mid-Value prduct line. (Optiarc fans shouldn't take this idea as a punch, since Plextor sold even the DW1640 as a mid-line drive)
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I'd guess it's simply because Pioneer made them the cheapest offer.

Pioneer is one of the smaller players in the market when it comes to PC ODDS (their presence in stores where i live is zero). If they can OEM a couple of 100'000 drives extra it'll probably mean more for them than for a big player like Liteon or LG. So they maybe made an offer the Plextor guys couldn't refuse
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Also, did you notice they include their PlexTools LE software in the bundle?
Maybe not all functionality in the software will be enabled, but lets hope so!
This should be kind of a 'premium' compared to the Pioneer drive (which I just ordered BTW).

It's a pity that the retail drive looks just like a 'standard' OEM drive... Where are the nice retail-bezels Plextor!??
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Old Posted: 12-05-2007
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it is not Premium series I'm not gonna Buy this
all I want to plextor launch one more new premium series with Audio Master Quality Recording
Old Posted: 12-05-2007
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it is not Premium series I'm not gonna Buy this
all I want to plextor launch one more new premium series with Audio Master Quality Recording
That probably won't happen, but I hope someone else licenses Yamaha's technology. I doubt I will ever buy a rebadged Plextor. I have a 716A and 755SA now and a few SCSI burners and readers tucked away in the basement. I've got a Pioneer 212D, it produces good burns, but it is an average drive. I've also got a BenQ DW1640... It is an above average drive. Had no intention of buying the Plextor rebadge of that and the Pioneer is a lesser drive than the 1640.
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That probably won't happen, but I hope someone else licenses Yamaha's technology. I doubt I will ever buy a rebadged Plextor. I have a 716A and 755SA now and a few SCSI burners and readers tucked away in the basement. I've got a Pioneer 212D, it produces good burns, but it is an average drive. I've also got a BenQ DW1640... It is an above average drive. Had no intention of buying the Plextor rebadge of that and the Pioneer is a lesser drive than the 1640.
yes I agree
that was my wish Because we don't have premium 2 CD-RW US market
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Also, did you notice they include their PlexTools LE software in the bundle?
Maybe not all functionality in the software will be enabled, but lets hope so!
http://www.plextor.be/products/all/D...=DVD-recorders

If you look at the product overview, you will notice, that only the original Plextor drives support quality scans.
Old Posted: 12-05-2007
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Plextor has gone crazy. It is no wonder that they are experiencing low sales if they offer the same burners of other manufacturers for higher prices. People have not yet ended dicussion regarding the previous NEC model PX-800 and Plextor releases another burner already.

I would have chosen to pay more for a quality product of which I am sure it will perform perfectly, as I have done with PX-760. Now there is no reason to purchase a Plextor any more if I have to guess what will be there once I open the retail box.
Old Posted: 13-05-2007
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There clearly (still) is a market for Plextor drives. Plextor is an "enthusiast-brand". Average normal customers (who are unfamiliar with quality scanning etc.) don't want to pay the premium for a Plextor when they can get a drive for about half the price.

Offering (inferior) rebadges is a really bad thing! It's sad that the Plextor brand is vanishing. One of my first ODD's was a Plextor SCSI CD-ROM drive. When you opened the tray it sounded like revvin' up a chainsaw but otherwise it performed excellent.

Plextor why not make your own drives... make it Nexperia based and i'm sure you would sell millions
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Plextor has gone crazy. It is no wonder that they are experiencing low sales if they offer the same burners of other manufacturers for higher prices.
Well, their own drives cost $100+. I don't know how much they actually cost to make, but I'd assume that they'd have reduced the price on their own drives before exclusively rebadging others' drives if they could have. Not too many people are ready to shell out $100+ for the Sanyo chipset and Plextor quality. Plextor, to most, remains the just-out-of-reach premium ODD manufacturer. Sure, they've got great brand recognition, but Plextor can't make bank that way. Now they're rebadging other manufacturers' drives for cheaper than building their own such that they can at least try to bank off their brand name alone at the lower prices (~$50-$70). Shutting down the manufacturing plants and just working on firmware/software is a lot cheaper, too. I genuinely curious to see whether or not Plextor can write firmware for the DVR-212 better than Pioneer themselves can.
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People have not yet ended dicussion regarding the previous NEC model PX-800 and Plextor releases another burner already.
The PX-800A is PATA and the PX-810SA is SATA. I don't think it's out of line. It's good to have a choice between the two interfaces.
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I would have chosen to pay more for a quality product of which I am sure it will perform perfectly, as I have done with PX-760. Now there is no reason to purchase a Plextor any more if I have to guess what will be there once I open the retail box.
Unfortunately, there aren't enough people out there like you to make it profitable for Plextor to do so.
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Old Posted: 14-05-2007
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This drive is due in stock at Alternate.de soon, it's listed as €74...but is it a rebadged Pioneer 212?...as that drive is selling for €49??
Old Posted: 16-05-2007
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I am not so sure about Plextors intentions. They quit their own drives to sell rebadged ones with very high price tags. If it doesn't provide any extra function over the Pioneer version I am not so sure why they even try to sell these things!
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I am not so sure about Plextors intentions. They quit their own drives to sell rebadged ones with very high price tags. If it doesn't provide any extra function over the Pioneer version I am not so sure why they even try to sell these things!
I agree with you
If 800A & 810SA is premium series ( real plextor ) I buy least 2 drive each model maybe more even my brother and friend they are all Plextor Mania
But right now I'm not gonna buy and they not gonna buy
I am also really don't understand Plextor
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Plextor send me E-mail about New 810SA
Serial Killer - Plextor Introduces the PX-810SA Serial ATA DVD Burner
Serial ATA = Serial Killer
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