Old 26-04-2005   #1
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Max data size on DVD+R

What is the max amount of data burnable on a disc? Sounds stupid but, the calculations are a bit misleading... 4.3GB or 4.7GB. Plextor Professional will let me burn into the red zone... but gives me no warning of the consequences that might happen.

What happens when I burn 4.34GB? Does it overburn like CD-R discs? Is there a chance for data corruption?

I tried searching, but did not find a pertinent answer.

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Old 26-04-2005   #2
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

http://www.videohelp.com/dvd

Plex allows you to overburn DVD+Rs (not -Rs)...i've managed up to 4600mb on one.
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

I've also done a 4600 MB burn, because that is most Nero will allow; I've read that nero cd-speed can tell you the max size on your dvd+r at the cost of burning one disc, although I think it is about 4670 MB if I remember right. I've also come across mention of a nero registry hack that can override the 4600 limit, but I would not risk the damage to my drive for another 70 megs.
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

From the link drpino gave us:
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DVD-5, holds around 4 700 000 000 bytes and that is 4.37 computer GB where 1 kbyte is 1024 bytes.
The key is 1 kb = 1024 bytes, so
4,700,000,000 b(ytes) = 4,589,843 KB = 4,482 MB = 4.38 GB
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

Yes I've been able to burn 4600MB on my DVD+R because 4600MB or 4.49GB is the highest Nero will allow. 4.7 basically means 4.36
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

Hey guys/gals,

thanks for the fast reply!!!

Has anyone experienced problems reading from these overburned discs over time?

cathgem, why would overburning damage your drive?
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

DVD-R capacity is 4,706,074,624 bytes
DVD+R capacity is 4,700,372,992 bytes

without overburning.
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Overburning to 4600 MB shouldn't be that bad to your drive, I've done it on several occassions and my discs are still fine (but I've only had the drive for 4 or so months). I was commenting about overburning your dvd past the 4600 MB nero limit, since the original default limit is 4482 MB.
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I've been able to burn 4685 mb with some RICOHJPN DVD+R media...

Yes, there is some slight risk of the data being unreliable beyond 4482 MB, because that extra "overburned" space has not been certified, but if you use good quality media (TY = FUJIfilm or RICOHJPN01) results should be excellent. I've overburned more than 150 (high quality) DVD+R media on the 716 without errors or playability issues on my standalones. Note that I wouldn't overburn on crap media, or even trust crap media burns beyond 4000 MB, for that matter. Also, it helps to reduce burn speed, to perhaps 8x or 12x when overburning, perhaps it gives the data on the outer-rim of the disc "extra" reliability!
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

another great feature that only the Plextor drives have the ability to consistently overburn +R media.
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

Little problem,
Trying to overburn a +R disk to about 4500mb. I not sure what's wrong. I set the overburning size to be 4600 or more (with the registry change) in the preferences. The strange thing is that I have overburned a bunch of disks already, but only by a few mb's. Not sure why Nero will not allow me to do another 15 or so mb's. I have noticed that the compilation size bar thing at the bottom of my compilation is in the red no matter how high the overburn setting is in the preferences. I am using Nero 6.6.0.8a. Thanks in advance.
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I set the overburning size to be 4600 or more (with the registry change) in the preferences.
The highest I can sucessfully overburn using DVD Shrink is 4599 because DVD Shrink needs a slack of 3-5MB. I think it's best to set not more than 4600.
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Yes, I agree, it's best not to overburn past 4600mb. I am only trying to overburn to 4503mb. Can't figure out why nero won't let me do it cuz it lets me overburn to 4490 or so on the same +R disks.
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Did you check the Expert Features under Nero Preferences? I think the default size is 4500mb, try to increase to 4600mb
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yes, I have the expert overburning dvd size @ 4600mb
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I would suggest to save in Nero in ISO format and burn with DVD Decrypter and see what happens.

Just to confirm again, so you have both Plextools preference and Nero preference to allow overburn?
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ok, will try when I get home today. I believe I have it turned on in plextools but I'll double check. That might be the problem.
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I would suggest to save in Nero in ISO format and burn with DVD Decrypter and see what happens.
that's how i get by any overburning limitations in the nero engine.
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Re: Max data size on DVD+R

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From the link drpino gave us:

The key is 1 kb = 1024 bytes, so
4,700,000,000 b(ytes) = 4,589,843 KB = 4,482 MB = 4.38 GB
Don't want to be anal, but ...

Due to continuing complaints from scientists/engineers about the abuse of the SI system by the IT branch, the latest agreement states that KB (notice the capital 'K') stands for a multiplier of 1024 whereas the non-capital 'k' still stands for 10^3. 1 Megabyte (abbr. MB) is now indeed 10^6 bytes whereas the new abbr. MiB stands for 1024^2 bytes ... the same applies for GB (10^9) and GiB (1024^3) ... TB and TiB soon to come with new HDD generations.

confusing ... isn't it ?
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