Problem with LiteOn dvdrw

Couldn't say ...
I don't know which crappy manufacturers $hitty quality-UNcontrolled discs they are rebadging this week.

Try some TY, Verbatim, or anything "Made In Japan"

Check out the Bargain Basement part of the forum, to see what you can get in your area.

TY is getting quite cheap, especially in the US, where you can get TY spindles for negligibly more than the cheap crap anyway

Before TDK was average and some batches were better than other batches and buying TDK was like loto you never knew what batch you going to get. But the last few months TDK had been using CMC. MAG. MO1 and been really crap

This is the result of Nero CD Speed for Ritek G05.

I'm just told that Ritek G05 isn't sold in Europe and US. What is sold in those continents are Ridata, which is the grade B of Ritek. So, by bad, maybe you guys meant Ridata.

@Fela Kuti:

What is it you are trying to accomplish in this thread now? Convert us to Ritek G05 overnight? So far you have dismissed the advice of several knowledgeable people that have helped you, and are now educating us on whether Ritek = Ridata.

As I said earlier, there is a LiteOn forum for your drive problems, and a Blank Media forum for your scans. Unless you have some Newbie-style questions and become a little less arrogant in your replies, I will consider closing this thread and you can take a holiday from the forum for a day or so.

Consider this a warning .

Sorry, but that is false information. What several people have been alluding to, without just coming out and telling you, is that there is a well known problem with Ritek G05 and later batch G04. It burns wonderfully, you fall in love with it, begin to trust it...

...a month of two later, your player gives you a "No Valid Disk" when you put one of your great Ritek burns in it. "This can't be right!" you think, so you try another and it works. You try another, it fails, you try another it fails. You get a cold feeling start to go up your spine and you begin testing your previously perfect Ritek disks in CD/DVD speed. Oh. Crap.

They can degrade, especially the full-face printables that are going around so very cheaply at the moment. Not all do though apparently, but prepare to have to try and save as many of them as you can to better media very soon. Lucky you have a lite-on, as it's a better reader and should be able to rescue more of your disks. Check out the Blank Media section of the forum, and do a search there for recent threads about Ritek. Or indeed, just scan the first page for such threads.

Cheap media, especially Ritek is a lottery and will COST MORE MONEY in the long run.

Just want to make sure that the Ritek there and here is different. Because Ritek's got good reviews from the Indonesian reviewers. And if I can use this thread, why should I make a new thread? Oh well, I apologize if I'm wrong. Sorry if my replies came out as arrogant because English is not my 1st language, not even second.

Ritek G05 (sold under many brands in the UK and Europe...Maxell, some Verbatim Pearl White, Datawrite Yellow...to name but a few)...is just plain crap. Scans beautifully, but as the knowledgeable members have mentioned, they have been known to turn to crap in as little as weeks.

Buy cheap, buy twice

We do in fact get Ritek as well as Ridata over here. If you go back six months to a year, or even do a google on Ritek G04 or G05, you can still find many glowing reviews. Most people on this specialist board however no longer rate them as anything other than very (and I emphasise very) temporary storage.

Again, this is not everyones experience, but I've experienced it personaly, loosing about 150 disks, and many others on this forum have too. Genuine original RiTEK media at that.

The discs don't give you much choice, most of the time

Some threads about bad Ritek DVD media in the Blank Media Forum:

I give up Ritek

Hooray for Ritek! TY very much...

Ritek G05 = New Honorary Princo !

Has Ritek Always Been Poor Quality?

Another case of degrading G05, Maxell-branded

Thanks guys. See, mod? This thread is not useless afterall. As a newbie, I learned a lot.

I am intensely gratified by that realisation .

Yay! Smiles all round!

I sell Ritek Excellent Discs in Indonesia, and I would say that Ritek Excellent is very good (not as good as TYs ofcourse ). (before someone accuse me that I would say that Ritek is a Excellent DVD, let me remind you that Ritek Excellent is one of Ritek's DVD Brand) My friend is one of their Distributor in Indonesia.

When I told him that I saw Ritek sold as Ridata and scanned at CDFreaks, He said to me that the Ridata Brand was never a hi grade of Ritek's DVD. He said to me that a Ritek Representative from Taiwan told him that Ritek only sell hi grade DVD on Ritek Excellent Brand. ( I also talked to Zevia about this )

Fela Kuti asking me why he always failed to burn Riteks at his Laptops, meanwhile many of my loyal customer never failed to burn a G05, RicohJPN R02 and R03 on their writers.

Now I dont have the disc because I have throw all the test disc from my cabinet
and the pic above is taken from my test at OprekPC Forum. You could see the look of Excellent brand at ritek's webpage.

I'm not trying to defend Fela or Ritek, but I'm telling you guys from what my customers reported to me.

Sorry for my bad english

Thanks for clearing that up - I for one was wondering why that disc scan in post #28 was apparently made on a BenQ 1620. Some of us might have continued to assume that that scan was one that Fela Kuti made himself with his own disc and altered LiteOn firmware.

However, as the experts above have been at pains to point out, the long-term reliability of the G05 burns is still the questionable thing, rather than the initial scan indications.

RiData is Riteks own A-Grade brand name, Arita is their B-Grade brand, just to clarify a misconception. Though I am wondering if Fela is mixnigup RiData with RiDisc which is not associated with Ritek.

As kidd as said longevity is the problem with Ritek not it's initial burn, I have had better scans after the initial burn of Ritek than I have of Verb and TY, but the Ritek G05s have degraded to unreadable in less than 6 months and at most 15 months, where as I have Verb 4x discs still readable today.

Unfortunately a number of reviews by the average user, and even on SVP are going by burns and not longevity, this can be gathered by the coments, "Not a coaster yet" "burns beautifully" etc. Sometimes the shops themselves are gulity of feeding this view, I have actually burst out laughing when in one store I heard the assistant sy Ritek are the best on the market, and had to correct them.

The average user tends to look at price first, as they don't see the difference between the discs. I have a friend that insists on buying Datawrite no matter how many times I tell him not to, because they are cheap. Until this changes nothing else will.

It's my bad that I dont have that disc posted on #28, so right now I dont have the proof of its existence. I kinda a +R lover, because of bitsetting and Overburn. But I do have an old burn (at least 9 months old burn) with Ritek R02 burned with Pioneer A109. The burn (written on the DVD) was scored 94 by CD/DVD Speed ( this is one of hundreds reason why I hate Pioneer 109 and 110, but I do love 111 ), scanned a minute ago.



Thank you, but I don't know which statement is true. But from what I test, I never got a 93 and below QS from Ritek R02 and R03 ... except when my 1640's broken. (also got a 0 TYG01 with 1 million POF )

If you guys interested in looking on one of my reviews, you could go to http://www.oprekpc.com/index.php?id=view&aid=344 ... If you dont understand the Indonesian language you could just look at the pic

The R02's & R03's were never under contention .. it's their later discs which are downright terrible quality.

Neither, as stated in the post above, is the quality of burning from the G05. It is the longevity which is the problem.

A scan of an R02, burnt 11 months ago doesn't help a discussion about the latest ritek high speed disks. It just enhances what everyones already said .. Ritek USED to make good discs.


R04's .. passable, but not fantastic.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=153 to enhance the point of dvros about how they used to make good discs. Plus you are using the +Rs and you can't compare them to the -Rs it is an unfair comparison. as I have read from those with more experience than I that Ritek +Rs are still a good media. We are talking about -Rs here.

So thanks God I made the right choice to use +R media heehheeh...

I'll report this to my friend...

Thanks guys

Yo-

This entire thread could have been avoided if the OP had used our 'search' function and had just put in 'G05' - would have said all the above and much, much more-

Mike

(emphasis is mine)

It's true that the search function can give very useful results, but sometimes there are just too many results.

A Search through all forums for "G05" results in 500 threads, so yes - it would have said the above and much much more.

Most of those thread titles don't give you any hint that G05 is problematic media.

Try reading through all those threads and then get back to me when you're done. See ya in a few days...

Hi, I've read all the cdfreaks forum posts about LG and Ritek.
I burned for 2days now those G05 Ritek quantity 2x50 printable spindle, bought recently in europe, as coasters : Almost all died at first burn, 2 succeeded, but one had verification failed, and only one burned succesful! Also burned fine 48 out of 50 +R Ritek's, but how long will they remain intact, I hope not 2weeks!
I'm using a LG GSA4120b recorder A117 firmware working great.

Ritek G05 Printable dvd-r is bad idea.What a waste, i'm currently looking for a huge hard disk, so I'll not loose all my data written.

thanks but i won't buy again ritek, even +R tend to fail I guess it's a matter of days/months.

PS: Taio Yuden you are my only hope...