gdr 8163b firmware update issue

gqtony03 · 15-11-2007

hey, I just purchased a gdr 8163b model # 0b26 which is the hp product edition. and I just dled the update for this specific oem model but I do not know how to install it even though it says the operating system i need to operate it is windows xp. My question is concerning when I open the exe that is sp28861.exe it tells me to "place a destination disk in drive A:, and press and key when ready"...I dont have any floppy drives...is there a way to apply the update without having a floppy drive to boot it from. I have the gdr 8163b inside an enclosure. any feedback would help thanks very much.

*_chef_* · 15-11-2007

Put the drive out and connect it through an ide 2.5">3.5" adaptor to a standard computer. Then extract the *.exe file with winrar into a folder on hdd and use SUBST command in DOs to create a fake A: drive so you could run that update.

gqtony03 · 15-11-2007

I understand everything your proposing with the beginning up until the dos section...i would highly appreciate it if you could tell me step by step what i would have to do in dos...specifically. Thanks very much in advance.

*_chef_* · 16-11-2007

Open up a commandline and type in "SUBST /?" so you will get all info.

**mciahel** · 16-11-2007

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by gqtony03

My question is concerning when I open the exe that is sp28861.exe it tells me to "place a destination disk in drive A:, and press and key when ready"...I dont have any floppy drives...is there a way to apply the update without having a floppy drive to boot it from.

the installer just extracts a Floppy disc image that shall be used for the firmware update under plain DOS or something else.
Since you don't have a floppy, then you need a working CD burner and a CD-RW.
Start with extracting the update files from the file got got from HP. Winzip, Winrar or 7-zip should to the trick.
Next step. Run your CD burning software (Nero, ImgBurn) and create a new project "bootable CD" with "Floppy emulation". Select the img file you extracted previously as source for the Boot image, and put some other data onto the disc.
Now you can boot from that CD.

I am not sure what to do then, and if your USB connected drive is supported. You'll have to try and see what happens or check if there are some additional instructions give by HP.

Michael

Cressida · 16-11-2007

By far the easiest thing to do will be to temporarily hook up a floppy drive to your PC. If you're using a laptop, then hook up the burner to another PC with a floppy (which should be equally easy since it's an external drive). It will be quicker than trying to make a bootable CD or USB-stick anyway.

**mciahel** · 16-11-2007

I am not sure if a DOS based firmware flasher will handle USB connected drives...

*_chef_* · 16-11-2007

The mobo must support it via the BIOS...

Then you could easily boot up into DOs and also use SUBST if necessary (to create a FAKE A: drive).

**mciahel** · 16-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by _chef_

The mobo must support it via the BIOS...

Then you could easily boot up into DOs and also use SUBST if necessary (to create a FAKE A: drive).

I am slightly confused

Booting from a bootable CD (with FDD emulation) that is created by using the FDd image provided, will already occupy drive A:, so no playing around with subst is needed.
Apart from that, on most systems data from the HDD are not accessible via DOS unless some NTFS read driver is integrated into the boot image. Not that easy at all.

btw: This one looks nicer than subst, at least for the special purpose of extracting the disc image: Virtual Floppy Disk

gqtony03 · 17-11-2007

with all the help i was hoping id figure it out but still no dice...sigh when i tried it on one of my old operating systems which supports a floppy drive it didnt work. told me "an application has attempted to directly access the hard disk, which cannot be supported. this may cause the application to function incorrectly"... for the nero burning/imgburn/poweriso img thing as a bootable disk as fdd...didn't work either because it said the .img file included is not a supported img. file when i choose the file thus when i boot off the disk it tells me its an invalid disk (i burned it with nero) ahhh...so difficult =/...

*_chef_* · 17-11-2007

This is why you try to access a non-FAT HDD from DOS...

Either you must use a RAMDISK with extra tools or the method I've described (especially when the flasher WANTS to have an A: drive!!!).

gqtony03 · 17-11-2007

o ok i think i figured it out but now the problem is is that i dont have any way to boot up into dos is there anyplace i can dl it and put it in a cd disk so i could boot it from that. or i mean how do i boot up from dos by dling it onto a partition. (I'm on windows xp) sorry for bein such a noob about this stuff..

gqtony03 · 17-11-2007

ok nvm i didnt figure it out lol i created a bootable cd rom disk that boots into dos...but the problem is is when i activate the program it tells me..."this program cannot be run in dos mode"...and when I do the subst command...I normally type in: "subst A: C:\" which makes a A: available...I'm not sure if im typing in the wrong commands. and how to associate the file into it...so I figured out that I need to run the program within windows xp because the software is written for A: within windows xp. but I still get the same error...with the whole "please place a disk in drive A:"...I guess I messed up with the subst somewhere? the file name is sp28861.exe...not sure how to associate the file or run it through a: so that it wont ask me for a disk.

*_chef_* · 18-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by gqtony03

ok nvm i didnt figure it out lol i created a bootable cd rom disk that boots into dos...but the problem is is when i activate the program it tells me..."this program cannot be run in dos mode"...and when I do the subst command...I normally type in: "subst A: C:\" which makes a A: available...I'm not sure if im typing in the wrong commands. and how to associate the file into it...so I figured out that I need to run the program within windows xp because the software is written for A: within windows xp. but I still get the same error...with the whole "please place a disk in drive A:"...I guess I messed up with the subst somewhere? the file name is sp28861.exe...not sure how to associate the file or run it through a: so that it wont ask me for a disk.

You cannot flash a drive you have booted from!!!

Use either a bootable dos partition or usb stick or...........

**mciahel** · 18-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by gqtony03

ok nvm i didnt figure it out lol i created a bootable cd rom disk that boots into dos

Please re-read Post #5 of this thread

Additionally, it is always a good idea to read the instructions that are provided by HP.
And there is also another firmware update 0E16 from HP: http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/fi...oad/22810.html

EDIT:
Worth having a look at ---> http://tdb.rpc1.org/#GDR8163B <--- Windows-Flasher inside

*_chef_* · 19-11-2007

In any case you still need a dos disk to boot up and access NTFS, then check out:
The Firmware Flashing Bootdisk (Floppy image or CD ISO image)
available here ....

gqtony03 · 19-11-2007

i know theres another update but i dont think 0E16 is compatible with 0b26? Im not completely sure but I don't wanna risk it...i think 0e16 is its own oem model...so I dont think I'm suppose to use that update...but then again I'm not sure...thanks for all the help

Quote:

Originally Posted by mciahel

Please re-read Post #5 of this thread

Additionally, it is always a good idea to read the instructions that are provided by HP.
And there is also another firmware update 0E16 from HP: http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/fi...oad/22810.html

EDIT:
Worth having a look at ---> http://tdb.rpc1.org/#GDR8163B <--- Windows-Flasher inside

*_chef_* · 19-11-2007

Correct, you should not crossflash between OEM firmwares.

gqtony03 · 20-11-2007

thanks for all the help i figured it out did the old fashion thing and did it on a cpu with a floppy drive. Wasn't easy to get to though had problems formatting drive a and other complications but heh all worth it thanks for all the feedback

15-11-2007	#1
gqtony03 New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7	gdr 8163b firmware update issue hey, I just purchased a gdr 8163b model # 0b26 which is the hp product edition. and I just dled the update for this specific oem model but I do not know how to install it even though it says the operating system i need to operate it is windows xp. My question is concerning when I open the exe that is sp28861.exe it tells me to "place a destination disk in drive A:, and press and key when ready"...I dont have any floppy drives...is there a way to apply the update without having a floppy drive to boot it from. I have the gdr 8163b inside an enclosure. any feedback would help thanks very much.

15-11-2007	#2
_chef_ MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...playing LLAMATRON :-] Posts: 30,613	Re: gdr 8163b firmware update issue Put the drive out and connect it through an ide 2.5">3.5" adaptor to a standard computer. Then extract the .exe file with winrar into a folder on hdd and use SUBST command in DOs to create a fake A: drive so you could run that update. __________________ Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please use the powerful SEARCH. Try ThreatFire I am looking for DVD-R for Authoring & HD DVD media. Please PM me if you can help me. Vamos Tribbles! V-a-m-o-s!!

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gqtony03 New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7	Re: gdr 8163b firmware update issue I understand everything your proposing with the beginning up until the dos section...i would highly appreciate it if you could tell me step by step what i would have to do in dos...specifically. Thanks very much in advance.

16-11-2007	#4
_chef_ MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...playing LLAMATRON :-] Posts: 30,613	Re: gdr 8163b firmware update issue Open up a commandline and type in "SUBST /?" so you will get all info. __________________ Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please use the powerful SEARCH. Try ThreatFire I am looking for DVD-R for Authoring & HD DVD media. Please PM me if you can help me. Vamos Tribbles! V-a-m-o-s!!

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16-11-2007	#7
mciahel Senior Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 17,048	Re: gdr 8163b firmware update issue I am not sure if a DOS based firmware flasher will handle USB connected drives...

17-11-2007	#10
gqtony03 New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7	Re: gdr 8163b firmware update issue with all the help i was hoping id figure it out but still no dice...sigh when i tried it on one of my old operating systems which supports a floppy drive it didnt work. told me "an application has attempted to directly access the hard disk, which cannot be supported. this may cause the application to function incorrectly"... for the nero burning/imgburn/poweriso img thing as a bootable disk as fdd...didn't work either because it said the .img file included is not a supported img. file when i choose the file thus when i boot off the disk it tells me its an invalid disk (i burned it with nero) ahhh...so difficult =/...

19-11-2007	#16
_chef_ MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...playing LLAMATRON :-] Posts: 30,613	Re: gdr 8163b firmware update issue In any case you still need a dos disk to boot up and access NTFS, then check out: The Firmware Flashing Bootdisk (Floppy image or CD ISO image) available here .... __________________ Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please use the powerful SEARCH. Try ThreatFire I am looking for DVD-R for Authoring & HD DVD media. Please PM me if you can help me. Vamos Tribbles! V-a-m-o-s!!

20-11-2007	#19
gqtony03 New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7	Re: gdr 8163b firmware update issue thanks for all the help i figured it out did the old fashion thing and did it on a cpu with a floppy drive. Wasn't easy to get to though had problems formatting drive a and other complications but heh all worth it thanks for all the feedback

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