Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player!

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

First of all please bear with me as I know this has probably been addressed... but when I try to search the forums I keep getting a "can not find server" and I am getting frustrated

ok Here is the deal. I am not a newbie to backing up DVD's I have done my entire 400+ disk collection and another 300+ so far from my VHS tapes that I have converted. I have been using the same drive, software and media for all 700+ disks. I have an el cheap-o Micro Advantage drive and I use Memorex 8X and 16X disks. I HAVE NEVER BURNT ONE COASTER OR HAD ONE PROBLEM WITH EVEN ONE DISK!!! so please no "that media is crap" or " get a _____ drive it is the best" I know this media and burner works in my Sanyo player perfectly.

But I have a problem with downloaded media. My copy of "Daddy Day Care" was completely ruined by my daughter before I could copy it so I downloaded a copy. (I also have tried about 6-7 other downloads to see if it was just a problem with that movie and get the same result.) And no matter what I do it will not play in my player. plays fine on my PC..... but will not play at all in my set top. I have tried converting avi files to dvd... and even downloaded DVD iso images so i know it is something else... I tried to burn with DVDShrink ...Clone2DVD ... decrypter... even tried running it through multiple programs to try and "reformat it" what else is there??? I am about to try and change the book type for my drive... but I don't know how this will change anything as I have over 700 DVD that work fine with the DVD+R book type already.... sorry for the long post but any ideas would be grand.

*Mr. Belvedere* · 24-01-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by jharris46

But I have a problem with downloaded media.

We do as well, it's illegal if it's not free of copyrights.

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

I agree with you about illegal media. As I said I have over 400+ retail DVDs and another 650+ videos that i am converting. the only reason I attempted to download anything was to recover media that I DO own and has been damaged. (Which was the whole reason I started to back them p in the first place!) I am completely againt Piracy. (If I had to spend thousands of dollars so I can watch Greatest American Hero at 3am and then watch Pulp Fiction with directors commentary, everyone else should have to spend that much also!!!)

*Mr. Belvedere* · 24-01-2006

The first issue is to get that weird format movie to a proper format.

For this you need a proper conversion program. It may require to recode the sound track and the movie track to the proper MPEG2 DVD standards.

I have no idea whatsoever why your movie will play on your pc and not on your dvd. I suspect the pc is using some codec that your dvd player is not supporting.

The best suggestion i can come up with is to transfer your media files to another pc and see if it works there. If it doesn't, you know it's a codec issue.

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

OOOOO Got this one covered already... heh I did get it into a DVD file and since it did not work I actually found an ISO of the actual disc that I burnt (looks good with VIDEO_TS files and all..) and I gave it to my Brother-in-law to try it in HIS player and it worked fine!!!So it seems that there is something different that is making my sanyo set top not recognize this....I ran it through decrypter in Read mode and it seems to be identical to other backups that I have that ARE wotking... I can't seem to make any difference anyway....

here is the decrypter log for the one NOT WORKING...

HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2,259,168
Size: 4,626,776,064 bytes
Time: 502:04:18 (MM:SS:FF)

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: PRODISC-R04-04
Book Type: DVD+R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,455,775
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

and here is one that works fine... same media burner.... software....

HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2,282,720
Size: 4,675,010,560 bytes
Time: 507:18:20 (MM:SS:FF)

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: PRODISC-R04-04
Book Type: DVD+R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,479,327
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

give you any ideas??

*debro* · 24-01-2006

Maybe your plyer doesn't like DVD+R?
Can you extract the files from the ISO & then burn them to a video compilation using nero, setting the booktype as DVD-Rom?

I notice in the logs that the image size of the working one seems to be larger than the non-working one .

I wonder why that is ....?

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

those were two different movies. the working log is a back up right from my disk (which works great "collateral") and the non-working log was the "daddy day care" one I had to download since my original has some huge scratches. I was just trying to see if there was a difference between a working one and this one to see what might come out of it....

as far as the DVD+R... all the rest of mine are in the DVD+R book type ( I assume all.... i checked about 10 of them) so would it cause a difference just with this one disc??

I'll try it anyway... just as soon as I figure out my stupid Micro Advantage drive and how to do it!! ( I am also figuring out how to flash it into an Aopen drive in another thread here as we speak!!)

*debro* · 24-01-2006

Lol!
One thing at a time! No need for a rush.

My first suggestion is to mount the image using Daemon Tools (it's free) and then make sure it plays normally on your PC. It may have mastering errors?

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

it shure does... even to disc I burned plays on my PC. (pc recognizes it as a finalized DVD and PowerDVD pops right up and plays it...and like I said... it even tested it on my brother-in-laws DVD player also...grrr...lucky punk.... grrrr....his dvd player would play a sandwich if you could get it in the slot... hehehe

*debro* · 24-01-2006

Are you able to set the booktype to DVD-Rom on that dvd?

I believe later version of K-Probe could do that with the litey drives, even after the discs had been burnt!

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

well i will give it a try... heh...gotta get k-probe... brb heh
wont that only work with liteon drives?

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

no go... this is what I got from kprobe....

*debro* · 24-01-2006

Aye, but who knows what on earth "Aopen" are capable of?

But besides that "HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (ATA)" suggests it is a Hitachi/LG drive, rather than an Aopen.

I find it odd that previous DVD+R work, not bit-set, but this one doesn't.

Might be a silly question, but you have burnt this to another physical disc (not necessarily another MID)?

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

ok... well the "HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (ATA)" is because I was reading those in a different drive than the one I burn from sorry for the

and yeah... i burnt this on three disks....once with the strait download through decrypter....once after converting it and burning it with nero... and once I ran it through CloneDVD and then burnt the output files... (and I have tried this with other downloaded files... same results....)

*debro* · 24-01-2006

Might be a silly question, but have you burnt any other compilations (movies) or Media types since this issue started?

"PRODISC-R04-04" are a relatively cheap media, and cheap media tends to have variable quality. I'ts quite possible that you have just reached a bad part of the batch & are going through each bad disc, thinking that the burner/iso/movie is at fault.

Can you try another media? Or at least skip to the last few on the spindle?

Since you have nero, can your run the "nero toolkit->infotool" and " [ code ]" & "[ /code ]" the resultant text file.
Ty.

jharris46 · 24-01-2006

i will get on the nero thing right away... and yeah... this problem is actually about 3 months old.. (I.E. I have been working on it for a while..) I have used disks off of three different spindles on this problem. and the other 250+ other disks never created one problem. the ONLY problem I have ever had is with files when I don't have the original disc in a copiable condition anymore and have tried to download it.

*Gurm* · 24-01-2006

Don't you hate problems like this? Usually it turns out that there's SOMETHING that you're doing that you don't know that you're doing. It's like a mental block, and when you finally do figure it out you'll smack your own forehead in disgust!

*Mr. Belvedere* · 24-01-2006

Question: Is that a Dell machine you're working on?

jharris46 · 25-01-2006

suprisingly yes! it is my laptop since my regular PC is OOC for a few weeks until I can get my new processor in. I am running my Burner in an extarnal enclosure for right now....... what would cause that problem with a dell??? This sounds promising.... something new anyway since I am tired of beating my head....

*ZigZagMan* · 25-01-2006

Soooo...you have achieved working burns other dvd's this new configuration?

In the enclosure, is the drive set to master........or CS ( cable select?)

jharris46 · 25-01-2006

yeah... about 45 or so... even my vhs converter box works fine thru my lappy... so I don't think it is the PC...

*ZigZagMan* · 25-01-2006

well 700 perfect copies is one heck of a lucky run burn wise.

jharris46 · 25-01-2006

yeah.....I have had one data disc get a bad burn.. and I have had two fail because of other programs poping up and freezing nero on me... but I have not had one coaster due to the media yet...."knock on wood"

I think I just got very lucky with my burner/media/player combo... and I am roilling with it...

*ZigZagMan* · 25-01-2006

when you popped the burner in the external case........was it set on cs or master?

jharris46 · 25-01-2006

master...i think... ill check .... but I dont remember changing it and it was on master...

24-01-2006	#1
jharris46 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player! First of all please bear with me as I know this has probably been addressed... but when I try to search the forums I keep getting a "can not find server" and I am getting frustrated ok Here is the deal. I am not a newbie to backing up DVD's I have done my entire 400+ disk collection and another 300+ so far from my VHS tapes that I have converted. I have been using the same drive, software and media for all 700+ disks. I have an el cheap-o Micro Advantage drive and I use Memorex 8X and 16X disks. I HAVE NEVER BURNT ONE COASTER OR HAD ONE PROBLEM WITH EVEN ONE DISK!!! so please no "that media is crap" or " get a _____ drive it is the best" I know this media and burner works in my Sanyo player perfectly. But I have a problem with downloaded media. My copy of "Daddy Day Care" was completely ruined by my daughter before I could copy it so I downloaded a copy. (I also have tried about 6-7 other downloads to see if it was just a problem with that movie and get the same result.) And no matter what I do it will not play in my player. plays fine on my PC..... but will not play at all in my set top. I have tried converting avi files to dvd... and even downloaded DVD iso images so i know it is something else... I tried to burn with DVDShrink ...Clone2DVD ... decrypter... even tried running it through multiple programs to try and "reformat it" what else is there??? I am about to try and change the book type for my drive... but I don't know how this will change anything as I have over 700 DVD that work fine with the DVD+R book type already.... sorry for the long post but any ideas would be grand.

24-01-2006	#3
jharris46 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	Re: Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player! I agree with you about illegal media. As I said I have over 400+ retail DVDs and another 650+ videos that i am converting. the only reason I attempted to download anything was to recover media that I DO own and has been damaged. (Which was the whole reason I started to back them p in the first place!) I am completely againt Piracy. (If I had to spend thousands of dollars so I can watch Greatest American Hero at 3am and then watch Pulp Fiction with directors commentary, everyone else should have to spend that much also!!!)

24-01-2006	#4
Mr. Belvedere MyCE Resident Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: in your mind. Posts: 18,855	Re: Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player! The first issue is to get that weird format movie to a proper format. For this you need a proper conversion program. It may require to recode the sound track and the movie track to the proper MPEG2 DVD standards. I have no idea whatsoever why your movie will play on your pc and not on your dvd. I suspect the pc is using some codec that your dvd player is not supporting. The best suggestion i can come up with is to transfer your media files to another pc and see if it works there. If it doesn't, you know it's a codec issue. __________________ "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. When things start getting weird, it's pitchfork o'clock." Do you have too much money? Give bitcoins to 1AdobZQNvfyZuDEbderRfT46KQEKkaW5dE

24-01-2006	#5
jharris46 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	Re: Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player! OOOOO Got this one covered already... heh I did get it into a DVD file and since it did not work I actually found an ISO of the actual disc that I burnt (looks good with VIDEO_TS files and all..) and I gave it to my Brother-in-law to try it in HIS player and it worked fine!!!So it seems that there is something different that is making my sanyo set top not recognize this....I ran it through decrypter in Read mode and it seems to be identical to other backups that I have that ARE wotking... I can't seem to make any difference anyway.... here is the decrypter log for the one NOT WORKING... HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD-ROM Disc Information: Status: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 2,259,168 Size: 4,626,776,064 bytes Time: 502:04:18 (MM:SS:FF) Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: PRODISC-R04-04 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,455,775 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 and here is one that works fine... same media burner.... software.... HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4241N A100 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD-ROM Disc Information: Status: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 2,282,720 Size: 4,675,010,560 bytes Time: 507:18:20 (MM:SS:FF) Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: PRODISC-R04-04 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,479,327 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 give you any ideas??

24-01-2006	#6
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24-01-2006	#17
Gurm CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,940	Re: Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player! Don't you hate problems like this? Usually it turns out that there's SOMETHING that you're doing that you don't know that you're doing. It's like a mental block, and when you finally do figure it out you'll smack your own forehead in disgust!

25-01-2006	#19
jharris46 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	Re: Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player! suprisingly yes! it is my laptop since my regular PC is OOC for a few weeks until I can get my new processor in. I am running my Burner in an extarnal enclosure for right now....... what would cause that problem with a dell??? This sounds promising.... something new anyway since I am tired of beating my head.... __________________ A few things I have learned in life 1) Its nice to have money left after your wife gets all the stuff she "needs". 2) ... if you write funny signature lines about her...the stuff she "needs" gets alot more expensive.

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ZigZagMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,277	Re: Downloaded DVD will not play in my set top player! Soooo...you have achieved working burns other dvd's this new configuration? In the enclosure, is the drive set to master........or CS ( cable select?) __________________ My Current Rig:Nvidia Gforce4 MX 4000 128meg, Biostar M7NCD, AthalonXP 2500+, 512meg DDR2700 1x 512, NEC 2510A, Matshita DVD-RAM LFD310, 160gig via 2x 80gig IBM Deskstar, 400watt ps, Win98SE, Chieftech Tower with extra fans and flashy lights,,,,I find the lights annoying and cool at the same time..hmm Rig 2:Nvidia Riva TNT2 Pro 32meg, Gigabyte 7ZXE F9, AthalonXP 2100+, 640meg PC133 2x 256 / 1x 128, LG 52x24x52x, Creative DVD-Rom DVD2240E, 120Gig via 1x 40gig WDC400BB-00DKA0 / 1x 80gig ST380021A, 300watt ps, Firewire, XpPro SP1, Generic Mid tower case. Rig 3:800 Duron, Crap ass cirrus 2 meg video card, 55 gig via 1x 15 gig seagate, 1x 40 gig IBM deskstar. 512 meg ram pc133 (I'm so proud..lol ) ____________________________ *Hurray for boobies!!!*

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