convert cd/mp3 to have 5.1 sound

uraknai · 07-09-2004

hi,

does anyone know if it's possible to convert an audio cd or mp3 with stereo sound into a file with 5.1 surround sound and play it on a dvd player. If so could you tell me the software I would need.

Thanks

*ZigZagMan* · 08-09-2004

I'm not sure you can, mp3 and audio cda (wav) are already encoded at a bitrate with lower quality to start with. Mp3 is a lossy compression, too much artifacts even at high encoding I'd think.

If anybody else has ideas, I'd be interested in hearing more about it.

uraknai · 17-09-2004

so i guess it's not possible to convert a stereo cd to 5.1 dts cd. oh well

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 17-09-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZigZagMan

I'm not sure you can, mp3 and audio cda (wav) are already encoded at a bitrate with lower quality to start with. Mp3 is a lossy compression, too much artifacts even at high encoding I'd think.

If anybody else has ideas, I'd be interested in hearing more about it.

Agreed.

Personally, I go for Vorbis OGG but my MP3 player doesn't like it

L1br4h · 17-09-2004

Not really...anyone who has a 5.1 surround system should be able to use the 5ch dolby pro logic output option (simulated surround) thus there is no reason to do it won't sound any different.

Wavs are 44.1, 16 2 track, DVD Video (Audio) is 48, 16 1-6 tracks...so it really isn't a much higher bitrate and 99% of DVDV (Audio) is AC3 (compressed like an MP3 but the VBR goes up to 650kbps instead of 300kbps).

But DVDV (Audio) 5.1 or THX (6) etc. do not convert 2 tracks, they work with the original tracks which can be 128 or more. Where you're working with 2 tracks.

Yes you can convert a 1 track mono wav into 2 tracks, won't sound any differnt because you don't have the original tracks to begin with.

Think of the original tracks as "source codes" and a 2 track PCM or 5.1 AC3 as a "compiled EXE" that's the best way to explain it.

DVD Audio (DVDA) IS 98, 24 1-6 tracks, though no one uses 1 track mono and none use 6 (THX) for audio...most are mastering DVDA in 5.1 you can compress down to 44.1, 16 2 track but you cannot go up

*ZigZagMan* · 18-09-2004

my point...is if your are starting from mp3....at 128 or higher.......you can't make it dolby5.1......or ripping a pristine cd............if it wasn't better than or eaqual to...the output were taling........no going there....

Daemonicus · 18-09-2004

It is possible. You just have to seperate the tracks into their 6 seperate wav files, then encode to either 5.1 AC3 or DTS. I do this all the time for menu audio onthe DVDs I author.
The software is expensive though. Have a look at Surcode DTS CD for DTS, or:
http://tinyurl.com/4ztdk for AC3 . I use Sonics AC3 5.1 encoder, but BeSweet's will work too.

07-09-2004	#1
uraknai New on Forum Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2	convert cd/mp3 to have 5.1 sound hi, does anyone know if it's possible to convert an audio cd or mp3 with stereo sound into a file with 5.1 surround sound and play it on a dvd player. If so could you tell me the software I would need. Thanks

08-09-2004	#2
ZigZagMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,277	Re: convert cd/mp3 to have 5.1 sound I'm not sure you can, mp3 and audio cda (wav) are already encoded at a bitrate with lower quality to start with. Mp3 is a lossy compression, too much artifacts even at high encoding I'd think. If anybody else has ideas, I'd be interested in hearing more about it. __________________ My Current Rig:Nvidia Gforce4 MX 4000 128meg, Biostar M7NCD, AthalonXP 2500+, 512meg DDR2700 1x 512, NEC 2510A, Matshita DVD-RAM LFD310, 160gig via 2x 80gig IBM Deskstar, 400watt ps, Win98SE, Chieftech Tower with extra fans and flashy lights,,,,I find the lights annoying and cool at the same time..hmm Rig 2:Nvidia Riva TNT2 Pro 32meg, Gigabyte 7ZXE F9, AthalonXP 2100+, 640meg PC133 2x 256 / 1x 128, LG 52x24x52x, Creative DVD-Rom DVD2240E, 120Gig via 1x 40gig WDC400BB-00DKA0 / 1x 80gig ST380021A, 300watt ps, Firewire, XpPro SP1, Generic Mid tower case. Rig 3:800 Duron, Crap ass cirrus 2 meg video card, 55 gig via 1x 15 gig seagate, 1x 40 gig IBM deskstar. 512 meg ram pc133 (I'm so proud..lol ) ____________________________ *Hurray for boobies!!!*

17-09-2004	#3
uraknai New on Forum Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2	Re: convert cd/mp3 to have 5.1 sound so i guess it's not possible to convert a stereo cd to 5.1 dts cd. oh well

17-09-2004	#5
L1br4h Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 202	Re: convert cd/mp3 to have 5.1 sound Not really...anyone who has a 5.1 surround system should be able to use the 5ch dolby pro logic output option (simulated surround) thus there is no reason to do it won't sound any different. Wavs are 44.1, 16 2 track, DVD Video (Audio) is 48, 16 1-6 tracks...so it really isn't a much higher bitrate and 99% of DVDV (Audio) is AC3 (compressed like an MP3 but the VBR goes up to 650kbps instead of 300kbps). But DVDV (Audio) 5.1 or THX (6) etc. do not convert 2 tracks, they work with the original tracks which can be 128 or more. Where you're working with 2 tracks. Yes you can convert a 1 track mono wav into 2 tracks, won't sound any differnt because you don't have the original tracks to begin with. Think of the original tracks as "source codes" and a 2 track PCM or 5.1 AC3 as a "compiled EXE" that's the best way to explain it. DVD Audio (DVDA) IS 98, 24 1-6 tracks, though no one uses 1 track mono and none use 6 (THX) for audio...most are mastering DVDA in 5.1 you can compress down to 44.1, 16 2 track but you cannot go up

18-09-2004	#6
ZigZagMan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,277	Re: convert cd/mp3 to have 5.1 sound my point...is if your are starting from mp3....at 128 or higher.......you can't make it dolby5.1......or ripping a pristine cd............if it wasn't better than or eaqual to...the output were taling........no going there.... __________________ My Current Rig:Nvidia Gforce4 MX 4000 128meg, Biostar M7NCD, AthalonXP 2500+, 512meg DDR2700 1x 512, NEC 2510A, Matshita DVD-RAM LFD310, 160gig via 2x 80gig IBM Deskstar, 400watt ps, Win98SE, Chieftech Tower with extra fans and flashy lights,,,,I find the lights annoying and cool at the same time..hmm Rig 2:Nvidia Riva TNT2 Pro 32meg, Gigabyte 7ZXE F9, AthalonXP 2100+, 640meg PC133 2x 256 / 1x 128, LG 52x24x52x, Creative DVD-Rom DVD2240E, 120Gig via 1x 40gig WDC400BB-00DKA0 / 1x 80gig ST380021A, 300watt ps, Firewire, XpPro SP1, Generic Mid tower case. Rig 3:800 Duron, Crap ass cirrus 2 meg video card, 55 gig via 1x 15 gig seagate, 1x 40 gig IBM deskstar. 512 meg ram pc133 (I'm so proud..lol ) ____________________________ *Hurray for boobies!!!*

Today
Adbot Always the best offers Join Date: Today Location: Myce HQ Posts: Zillions

18-09-2004	#7
Daemonicus MyCE Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: On top of your Mother Posts: 449	Re: convert cd/mp3 to have 5.1 sound It is possible. You just have to seperate the tracks into their 6 seperate wav files, then encode to either 5.1 AC3 or DTS. I do this all the time for menu audio onthe DVDs I author. The software is expensive though. Have a look at Surcode DTS CD for DTS, or: http://tinyurl.com/4ztdk for AC3 . I use Sonics AC3 5.1 encoder, but BeSweet's will work too.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Convert MP3 and burn to CD to listen in card or home cd player?	npereira	Newbie Forum	4	16-12-2009 06:55
Fastest Way to Convert Audio CD to mp3 is?	TomBrooklyn	Newbie Forum	11	10-07-2007 22:38
DVD2SVCD, can this convert a DivX+MP3 Sound > 5.1 ac3 ?	pallys	Video Edit Software	6	26-02-2005 13:09
Convert CD music to MP3.	colin.holton@ntlw	Newbie Forum	2	11-01-2005 06:20
What is the best way to convert regular audio CD to MP3??	twoages	Newbie Forum	11	09-12-2001 11:55