Verbatim DVD+R 16x MCC 004 Made in China

Blank Media Discuss, Verbatim DVD+R 16x MCC 004 Made in China at Consumables forum; I have recently bought 10pcs spindles of Verbatim DVD+R 16x discs that have been 'Made in China'... I have bought them by mistake, thinking they were taiwanese CMC PAPA discs... You can read the whole story + take a look at snapshots here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f33/verbati...ml#post1997201 These discs have PAPN code, so

Posted: 10-02-2008

skriptspn77 (New on Forum): Posts: 9

I have recently bought 10pcs spindles of Verbatim DVD+R 16x discs that have been 'Made in China'... I have bought them by mistake, thinking they were taiwanese CMC PAPA discs... You can read the whole story + take a look at snapshots here:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f33/verbati...ml#post1997201

These discs have PAPN code, so it is very close to PAPA... Still, does anyone know what factory is actually make these discs in China ? Is it hopefully CMC Magnetics as well ? Any feedback would be appreciated

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Posted: 10-02-2008

DrageMester (Retired Moderator): Posts: 17,614

Prodisc and CMC have factories in China and have made / are making CD-R media for Verbatim.

The PAPN... serial suggests that this is made by CMC.

I'm sure I'm not the oly one here looking forward to hearing and seeing how those new Verbies burn.

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Posted: 10-02-2008

kg_evilboy (CD Freaks Boy Toy): Posts: 5,360

The fourth character is the location where these have been made so it may well be that production is now shifting to Mainland China.

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Posted: 10-02-2008

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Originally Posted by DrageMester

Just got some of those PAPN... ones. I'll post my test results here since this is a thread specifically for MIC MCC004

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Posted: 10-02-2008

Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer): Posts: 29,609

Hmmmm.

Pioneer 115D (1.06) at 8x.

Let's hope my Sammy or LG looks better scan-wise. Although I can't fault the TRT, apart from one tiny dip.

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Posted: 11-02-2008

Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer): Posts: 29,609

Even though it dropped to 4x at the 3GB mark, the Sammy SH-S182D seems OK with these at "8x". Another good TRT and a better looking scan

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Albert (Moderator): Posts: 4,995

Not too shabby.

I do believe that those discs are still better than one of my batches of MIT, LOL.

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DrageMester (Retired Moderator): Posts: 17,614

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Hmmmm.

Pioneer 115D (1.06) at 8x.

Let's hope my Sammy or LG looks better scan-wise. Although I can't fault the TRT, apart from one tiny dip.

That doesn't look good. Any tiny scratches, scuff marks or dirt near the edge on that disc?

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Even though it dropped to 4x at the 3GB mark, the Sammy SH-S182D seems OK with these at "8x". Another good TRT and a better looking scan

Looks OK, although the dip to 4x is worrisome.

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That doesn't look good. Any tiny scratches, scuff marks or dirt near the edge on that disc?

Looks OK, although the dip to 4x is worrisome.

Nope. Looks clear enough. To the naked eye, of course.

Yeah, I think since the Sammy seems to like them (even if it does drop the speed), next test is da playback test

If that fails...it's data only for these discs.

Might burn one each on the LG E10N and Optiarc 5170S tomorrow for giggles.

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negritude (MyCE Resident): Posts: 4,453

Is this a European thing, or has anyone in the states seen them?

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Posted: 11-02-2008

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I don't know ..... I have "something" against any thing that is Made In China

Good bye Verbatim (for me)

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Posted: 11-02-2008

MegaDETH (Senior Moderator and Senior Reviewer): Posts: 4,778

Arachne, have you tried and faster burns like 12x and 16x?

I suppose they would be pretty ugly?

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Posted: 11-02-2008

Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer): Posts: 29,609

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Arachne, have you tried and faster burns like 12x and 16x?

I suppose they would be pretty ugly?

I can't on the Pioneer, as it's in an external enclosure (connected to the PC with the ATi chipset, which is crappy for USB anyway).

But I can run a couple of higher speed burns on my Sammy or Optiarc for giggles, if you like.

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Optiarc AD-5170S @ 18x.

Not terrible for an 18x burn, again good TRT with the one tiny dip

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MegaDETH (Senior Moderator and Senior Reviewer): Posts: 4,778

LOL Better at 18x than 8x

Except for that one area it's a pretty darn good burn. Speaking of that area did you look at the bottom after the burn?

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Posted: 11-02-2008

Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer): Posts: 29,609

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LOL Better at 18x than 8x

Except for that one area it's a pretty darn good burn. Speaking of that area did you look at the bottom after the burn?

They're all like that scan wise at the edge of the disc, every one I've burned, at whatever speed

Bottoms of the discs are good as far as the naked eye can see (no doubt if I examined them under the proper light I'd find something...).

Hehehe, they're obviously fine if you don't burn to the edge of the disc - I used a prepared image file that I use for reviewing, which uses the whole disc, give or take a meg or so.

My Optiarc is actually a very good burner, but since it's my primary TRT drive I don't like to burn with it too much.

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Posted: 11-02-2008

alan1476 (Senior Moderator and Software Editor): Posts: 15,292

I just bought the ones at Office Max that are on sale for 19.99USD for a 100 spindle and I got another 10,00 off with a coupon so they only cost me 11.74 for 100 discs, they are not that bad or that great. Just fine is how I would discribe them. They are CMC Made PAPA MIT.

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Posted: 11-02-2008

Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer): Posts: 29,609

Alan...no MIC MCC004 media yet then?

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alan1476 (Senior Moderator and Software Editor): Posts: 15,292

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Alan...no MIC MCC004 media yet then?

None, I searched the whole store and couldnt find any, all Prodisc and CMC, for some reason I dont think North America or at least the East Coast get the MIC ones. The had the D/L MKM003 MIS but no MIC under the Verbatim brand. I just noticed that this thread is about the MIC Verbs, I am sorry Arachne.

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Posted: 11-02-2008

Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer): Posts: 29,609

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Hmmm, seems it could well be an EMEA only thing, at least at the moment then

...and I can't even find MKM 003 in a B&M store, since we're on the subject, just MKM 001. Had my MKM 003s from Verbatim UK.

Oh well, you guys aren't missing much from my tests so far (of the MIC MCC004) ROTFL

Hehehe, I'm evil, I was wondering how long it would take you to notice the thread title proper

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Posted: 12-02-2008

tropic (CDFreaks Resident): Posts: 1,314

Damn, and I was cracking jokes at Verbatim's "secret Chinese plant" just a month or two ago. Serves me right. I just hope it's a while before they start showing up in my town. Probably jinxed myself.

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Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer): Posts: 29,609

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Damn, and I was cracking jokes at Verbatim's "secret Chinese plant" just a month or two ago. Serves me right. I just hope it's a while before they start showing up in my town. Probably jinxed myself.

Aha, so YOU'RE to blame, eh?

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Posted: 12-02-2008

kg_evilboy (CD Freaks Boy Toy): Posts: 5,360

Seems ok. Europe is usually the guinea pig so this fits into the whole picture.

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Posted: 13-02-2008

jcusimano2 (MyCE Die Hard): Posts: 1,110

I thought that chinese made verbatims were fakes I guess not then. Then why do the MCC 004 under DYNEX MIC have to be fakes then??

I do admit the scans are horrible with even worse playback so they probably are. But how do you know they all are when I guess there is a verbatim maker in china??

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Posted: 13-02-2008

Dalen Quaice (MyCE Resident): Posts: 1,771

Dynex MIC are fakes because... they are fake! lol They lack proper Verbatim batch codes + they are not even made with Azo dye!

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