Taiyo Yuden Normal vs Silver Inkjet vs White Inkjet...

Chad T · 03-08-2006

I'm getting ready to buy some Taiyo Yuden DVD+R, 4.7GB, 8X and am looking at the variations at Rima.com....

1. The normal ones...I assume these are shiny top?
2. Silver Inkjet Printable....are these matte silver topped?
3. White Inkjet Hub Printable

Are these all exactly the same media just with different tops? Will they all burn the same?

Do the Inkjet Printable models actually come with separate sticker lables ready to be ran through a printer then applied to the DVDs?

Bryan S · 03-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad T

I'm getting ready to buy some Taiyo Yuden DVD+R, 4.7GB, 8X and am looking at the variations at Rima.com....

1. The normal ones...I assume these are shiny top?
2. Silver Inkjet Printable....are these matte silver topped?
3. White Inkjet Hub Printable

Are these all exactly the same media just with different tops? Will they all burn the same?

Do the Inkjet Printable models actually come with separate sticker lables ready to be ran through a printer then applied to the DVDs?

I just bought 200 of the White 8X+R's from Rima 2 weeks ago. If you click on the different ones(the blue type) you'll see they all have the same code (Media ID : YUDEN000T02) So IMO they are the same just a different top coating on them.

Chad T · 03-08-2006

There is also another variation I originally overlooked. It is called "White Thermal (Everest Hub Printable)".

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Bryan S · 03-08-2006

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Originally Posted by Chad T

There is also another variation I originally overlooked. It is called "White Thermal (Everest Hub Printable)".

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The TY02 8X+R are all good, no matter what icing is on the cake.

And as an added bonus you know you are getting the real deal when buying from Rima.

davidw89 · 03-08-2006

Where do u buy these for good deals

joseph5 · 03-08-2006

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Originally Posted by Chad T

Do the Inkjet Printable models actually come with separate sticker lables ready
to be ran through a printer then applied to the DVDs?

No, the top surface of the disc itself allows for printing.

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Chad T · 03-08-2006

Is the silver on the silver inkjet versions a matte texture?

Are the normal ones just shiny, plain top?

Is there a website that has pics and better explains the differences?

Chad T · 06-08-2006

bump

*NBR* · 06-08-2006

I bought some Taiyo Yuden (TYG02 , dvd-r 8x , white inkjet) from rima.com for $42.xx out the door ... i used standard shipping, it took exactly a week for me to receive the dvd's... i ordered real early on a monday and it was in my hands the next monday.

as for printing i doubt i will print anything on them... i just got them like that for extra protection to the top of the disc itself

i aint even burned any of them yet and i had them for probably 3weeks or so now, lol... i need to find something to burn to them thats worth burning

SLK001 · 08-08-2006

There really isn't any "extra" protection from that white layer of paint on a DVD (CD's, however, are different). The construction of a DVD has the data layer sandwiched between two plastic layers of equal thickness, so you would have to scratch the back over half-way through the disk to do any real damage (other than cosmetic).

j-freeze · 22-02-2007

This is interesting..I'm about to purchase some Taiyo Yuden CDs from Rima as well. Initially I bought the regular "shiny silver" ones from them but they were very suseptible to finger prints and smudges and I felt they were just not "safe" enough. I'm now going to purchase the kind with the inkjet top. I dont plan on using an inkjet printer. I'll most likely just write on the hub [does it mater what kind of marker you use if its just the hub?] but I'd like to know if the "silver" printable top has better compatability then the "white". That silver metalic thing just *sounds* like it'll work better than a coat of white paint.

*CDan* · 22-02-2007

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Originally Posted by j-freeze

This is interesting..I'm about to purchase some Taiyo Yuden CDs from Rima as well. Initially I bought the regular "shiny silver" ones from them but they were very suseptible to finger prints and smudges and I felt they were just not "safe" enough. I'm now going to purchase the kind with the inkjet top. I dont plan on using an inkjet printer. I'll most likely just write on the hub [does it mater what kind of marker you use if its just the hub?] but I'd like to know if the "silver" printable top has better compatability then the "white". That silver metalic thing just *sounds* like it'll work better than a coat of white paint.

DVD's need no "protection" at all on the back side, as it's a hard polycarbonate disc. You can write on them with anything you like, even scratch it on there. There's nothing more or less "Safe" about any of the different types. You simply cannot harm a DVD's backside unless you really try.

The silver printable are actually only a plain shiny silver disc with an opaque clear coating. They look much like any frosted silver disc.

j-freeze · 22-02-2007

Thanks for the info..I now know I dont have to worry much about those tough DVD-Rs.

I'm still not sure on the CDs though...sounds like maybe the white coating may be a little tougher..?

kenja · 22-02-2007

I just recently realized this. Look at the edge of a CDR. There is only one layer of plastic; the reflective layer is on top. Looking at the edge of a DVDR, you can see two layers of plastic; reflective layer is in the middle.

I used to assume CDRs were better for archiving than DVDRs. Now I dunno.

Edit: about the top surface for CDR, the consensus seems to be: as long as you stay away from the dirt-cheap stuff with the bare reflective layer on top, you're OK. I like the white ink-jet compatible coating myself but it does tend to generate a bit of dust.

SudaWilde · 22-02-2007

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Originally Posted by Chad T

Is the silver on the silver inkjet versions a matte texture?

Are the normal ones just shiny, plain top?

Is there a website that has pics and better explains the differences?

Yes, the normal ones are a just shiny plain topped. I got 200 of them about a month ago and I have been extremely happy. I did not get the print capable ones because I do not have the equips needed to properly use it and a magic marker works just fine on these.

Link to the ones I ordered... Normal T02 @ Rima.com

*bigmike7* · 22-02-2007

Yo-

One thing that I have noticed lately - the Taiyo Yuden shiny silver CD-R's tend to show fingerprints much more readily than the shiny silver DVD's - wonder why-eh?

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*cd pirate* · 22-02-2007

The shiny ones tend to fingerprint very easily. White ones don't, but don't spill any crap on them.

Personally I like branded media like verbatim non printable discs. The old TDK discs looked quite nice. They had a light blueish grey top which looked better than anything silver.

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*kg_evilboy* · 22-02-2007

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Yo-

One thing that I have noticed lately - the Taiyo Yuden shiny silver CD-R's tend to show fingerprints much more readily than the shiny silver DVD's - wonder why-eh?

The only reason I can think of is that the shiny silver DVDs have a sandwich structure (so you're not touching the lacquer directly, but a layer of polycarbonate).
But I don't use shiny silver CD-Rs, they're too delicate...

That's CD-R with Ceramic Coat ftw!!

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j-freeze · 04-03-2007

I just bit the bullet and ordered "Taiyo Yuden WaterShield CD-R 80 " from Rima.com. They cost a little more but when you're paranoid about your discs this seemed like the best way to go.

*kg_evilboy* · 04-03-2007

Wow. Taiyo Yuden CD-R with water-resistant printable surface.
You will definitely have a lot of fun with these discs

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*Xterminator* · 04-03-2007

I just burned my first watershield TYG03 (16x -R unbranded Taiyo Yuden) with my Samsung SH-S182M @12x speed. The result was a class 2 advanced quality scan in CD-DVD Speed using Benq 1655, which is good.

After printing the label (which looks very nice, except for a couple of small bands that are slightly less reflective) I re-scanned the disc and got a very poor result. Looking at the surface, it was full of dust particles. Apparently printing and/or handling these discs attracts far more dust than the normal white printables.

I cleaned the surface with a microfiber cloth that I also use for my glasses, then scanned again. This time, I got a class 2 result again, and a 95% quality scan with CD-DVD Speed's normal quality scan.

All in all a very good disc, just needs more care than normal printables.

(I got them from os-mediatrade in .de).

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