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Blank Media Discuss, The Taiyo Yuden FAQ at Consumables forum; TY CD-Rs do not always come in the TY cakebox as the DVDs do. But 99% of all MIJ CD-Rs you can get are TY (there are some TDK and Ricoh left, but thats all I know of). One way of identifying TY CD-Rs is the "frosted" hub. As far

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TY CD-Rs do not always come in the TY cakebox as the DVDs do. But 99% of all MIJ CD-Rs you can get are TY (there are some TDK and Ricoh left, but thats all I know of). One way of identifying TY CD-Rs is the "frosted" hub. As far as I know only TY CD-Rs have that "frosted" hub.
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TY CD-Rs do not always come in the TY cakebox as the DVDs do. But 99% of all MIJ CD-Rs you can get are TY (there are some TDK and Ricoh left, but thats all I know of). One way of identifying TY CD-Rs is the "frosted" hub. As far as I know only TY CD-Rs have that "frosted" hub.
That's what i call the milky style.
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Is there anyone experiencing problem with tyg03 silver printable from plextor??
I tryed burning @12X and @8X. Any suggestion on a strat swapping??
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Thanks for the great FAQ kg and bringing a lot of info together into one thread.
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Does media listed in the original post as "MIJ" have a "Made in Japan" inscription printed on it ? Conversely does media listed there without "MIJ" not have "Made in Japan" printed on it, although it is made in Japan (if original) ?
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Does media listed in the original post as "MIJ" have a "Made in Japan" inscription printed on it ? Conversely does media listed there without "MIJ" not have "Made in Japan" printed on it, although it is made in Japan (if original) ?
The Verbatim MIJ and the Maxell 4x +R MIJ both have "Made in Japan" on the packaging. I can't remember for the Panasonic 4x -Rs, as it was two years ago now.

Edit: Plextor TY media also says MIJ on the packaging.

I'm talking about media bought in England, BTW, but it *should* be the same in Europe.
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I was referring more to the convention used (if any) than to individual situations of brands and labels. Since all TY media is made in Japan, it seemed logical that the extra 'MIJ' attribute used in the original post (which only some models have) referred to another feature, namely an inscription on the packs. Is it so ?
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Does media listed in the original post as "MIJ" have a "Made in Japan" inscription printed on it ? Conversely does media listed there without "MIJ" not have "Made in Japan" printed on it, although it is made in Japan (if original) ?
Unless they are deliberately lying to you, the outside packaging should state the country of origin.
  • Made in Japan = MIJ
  • Made in Taiwan = MIT
  • Made in China = MIC
  • Made in India = MII
It will acutally be spelled out "Made in Japan" on the label. Many here abbreviate down to the 3 letters because they are typed so often. So you might see MII MCC004 vs. MIT MCC004 to differentiate between Made In India with Mitsubishi Chemical Company 004 "dye" Verbatim 8X DVD +R from those Made in Taiwan.

Trivia: I believe I have actually seen media made in Malayasia but a search for MIM on CDFreaks turned up nothing (see my signature ). MID is not "Made in Denmark"; it stands for Media IDentifier and is refering to one of those cryptic MIJ TYG02 (Made in Japan, Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD-R) codes.
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...MID is not "Made in Denmark"...
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Hmm... there are other countries of origin:
MIF: Made in Finland, Made in France (MAM-E, MPO)
MIU: Made in U.S.A. (MAM-A?)
MIL: Made in Luxembourg (TDK)
MIG: Made in Germany (PrimeDisc?)
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Originally Posted by koba
TY CD-Rs do not always come in the TY cakebox as the DVDs do. But 99% of all MIJ CD-Rs you can get are TY (there are some TDK and Ricoh left, but thats all I know of). One way of identifying TY CD-Rs is the "frosted" hub. As far as I know only TY CD-Rs have that "frosted" hub.
Could someone post a picture of an original TY cd?

Thanks.
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Could someone post a picture of an original TY cd?

Thanks.
Have a look at post #39 in this thread.
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Is there a thread here or another resource that lists Taiyo Yuden CD codes, that is the character string(s) found on the inner ring of the disc (not the MID) ?
I searched the forum but didn't find anything useful.
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The CD hub codes?
I only know that a TY CD has two hub codes, one long hub code in the frosted hub (like 4L562B0123380, which is now round and following the hub, while it didn't and was printed straight into the hub before 40x), and a short hub code (like 80 PG1247) which is information about the length of the disc.
If you only want to know whether a TY CD is genuine, just look at the hub. If it's fully frosted, yes. If only a part is frosted, it's MBI.
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Thanks; I have answered you further here, to keep this thread nice and tidy
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The first post of this FAQ has been updated to version 1.02 at kg_evilboy's request.
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Hi just purchased a cake of Mitsai DVD-R and i was unable to use any of them tested it with my driver BenQ Qsuite, with speed of 1x and it says the disks are unusable, tested with Nero Speed and it says they are MID TIG02. Manufacturer unkown

So i think Mitsai is also a FAKE!
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Mitsai or Mitsui? Also, there is no MID TIG02 known to me!
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The scary part is that the list of Fake media is so much longer than the official authentic stuffs. Great Post OP
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Disc Impex (Greece)
Disc Impex (http://www.discimpex.gr) is an official distributor for Taiyo Yuden media for the Balkans.
"Diskimpex" is not official distributor for TY media for the Balkans.
-It is just a trade import company,only for Greece release,which usually sell premium or value line TY discs,under it's company own label-There are also sometimes imports of Plextor or That's label discs ,but not always available, even company's price catalog always mentioned them for marketing purposes.

There aren't official TY distributor media outside Japan,except offices for all TY activities,in Gernany (for Europe), and USA.-TY work as OEM in common knows media brands,and rest of each production available to resellers, depends on value for money in each production line.
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"Diskimpex" is not official distributor for TY media for the Balkans.
-It is just a trade import company,only for Greece release,which usually sell premium or value line TY discs,under it's company own label-There are also sometimes imports of Plextor or That's label discs ,but not always available, even company's price catalog always mentioned them for marketing purposes.
Aww. My bad. Never been to Greece, so didn't know exactly.
Not always That's there?
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Not always That's there?
Unfortunately NO.
-We are talking about That's retail products
http://www.thatscd-r.jp/index.htm

-In "diskimpex" catalog there are some unbranded TY discs named by marketing "That's" ,but are also same as TY value lines products.
Company marketing force customers buy these unbranded discs as similar with lower price ,but not always good and stable in quality as retail.
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Good FAQ, thanks for this kg_evilboy. I'm out getting some real TY
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Is there a way to tell from hub-codes which DVDs are premium or value grade Yudens?
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