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View Poll Results: What's you experience with paper labels?

I use or have used paper labels on my DVDR discs and I have (had) no problems 84 26.67%
I use or have used paper labels on my DVDR discs and I experience(d) problems 12 3.81%
I stopped using paper labels on my DVDR discs because I experienced problems 71 22.54%
I have never used paper labels on my DVDR discs 148 46.98%
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evo69 (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 20-03-2009
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So I'm interested in hearing both yays and nays about this. Am I the only one that has had luck when using paper labels?
I still have a few surviving discs with 3-year old paper labels so I'd say I have a bit of luck with them. I've had a higher percentage of "dead" discs however due to glue contamination of the data layer or disc warping or unbalancing that have caused CDs to die/decompose/refuse to read. A couple of discs working as compared to spindles of unreadable discs speaks volumes.

So for safety's sake I'd still go with a "not recommended" stance on the use of CD labels. Direct to disc printing is the way to go, or the tried and proven Sharpie/felt marker.
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Posted: 21-03-2009
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I still have a few surviving discs with 3-year old paper labels so I'd say I have a bit of luck with them. I've had a higher percentage of "dead" discs however due to glue contamination of the data layer or disc warping or unbalancing that have caused CDs to die/decompose/refuse to read. A couple of discs working as compared to spindles of unreadable discs speaks volumes.

So for safety's sake I'd still go with a "not recommended" stance on the use of CD labels. Direct to disc printing is the way to go, or the tried and proven Sharpie/felt marker.
How do you use your discs though?

I mean I take care of my CDRs. I put them away in their jewel box after they're done, and I don't put them in car stereos since they tend to over heat the disc. I just got done listening to a disc w/ a paper label that I've had for over 7 years and didn't experience a single problem.
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Posted: 21-03-2009
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How do you use your discs though?

I mean I take care of my CDRs. I put them away in their jewel box after they're done, and I don't put them in car stereos since they tend to over heat the disc. I just got done listening to a disc w/ a paper label that I've had for over 7 years and didn't experience a single problem.
Not to sound arrogant but I do know how to take care of discs. There's nothing I hate more than mishandled discs, and I'm the kind of person who'd lose it if I found oil stains on my discs, even on the label side. I do overuse my discs though, and this is one of the reasons why I have a high percentage of "dead" discs - and the tropical temperature and 95% humidity does advance deterioration faster. I find it absurd if I can't use my discs for extended periods of time just to make sure the paper label doesn't warp...

Optical discs were designed to be exposed to higher temperatures and shouldn't melt under extended use. Paper labels are just designed to stick. Polyester labels are better but it doesn't mean they won't cause any problems. The problem lies in the material that is used in these labels (and adhesive), and how they are attached - a fraction of a mm short of being centered is enough to unbalance the disc at a high rotational speed. So unless you're using labels similar to the CD's own polycarbonate and attach labels with machine-like accuracy then...

There's no way I'd recommend sticky labels still. I can't let sticky labels hinder the use of my discs, period. The data on them is more important than the labels!

People who are anal with disc care never use sticky labels and either mark them by hand or print directly to the surface of the disc. I've yet to hear someone complain that their Sharpie'd CD/DVD or printed disc warped or unreadable due to their labelling efforts.
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Posted: 09-08-2009
I have been reading this thread, albeit not every single post and found it very interesting. It never occurred to me that the heat from a player would have an effect on the label, as in melting. I just within the last couple of weeks purchased an external DVD burner and it has light scribe so of course I won't need paper labels at all.

After reading a few posts about how the label on a disk stayed intact yet the dvd quality began to lessen made me think of something. I have no idea if this would have any impact or not, but I thought I would throw it out there.

I am a paper crafter, ie scrapbooking and making my own greeting cards. Any kind of paper I use is acid & lignin (spell?) free so as not to cause photos and such to yellow and eventually be unrecognizable as they will be come just thrown in a box.

I have never noticed paper labels having a disclaimer that they are acid free, so I am wondering if the acid in the paper could have an effect on a disk over time causing it to lose quality even if the label seems to be in tact.
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Posted: 22-08-2009
Great stuff to know, thanks for that!
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