Sticky paper labels on DVD+/-R discs: beware!
| Blank Media Discuss, Sticky paper labels on DVD+/-R discs: beware! at Consumables forum; I agree rolling56 but its not paper, so I dont know if it will degrade and shred over time, for the life of me i cant get one of these polyester labels off, im tryin, lol they are mainly backups for my daughter to use in her portable dvd player, |
View Poll Results: What's you experience with paper labels?
| I use or have used paper labels on my DVDR discs and I have (had) no problems |     | 84 | 26.67% |
| I use or have used paper labels on my DVDR discs and I experience(d) problems |    | 12 | 3.81% |
| I stopped using paper labels on my DVDR discs because I experienced problems |    | 71 | 22.54% |
| I have never used paper labels on my DVDR discs |    | 148 | 46.98% |
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| I agree rolling56 but its not paper, so I dont know if it will degrade and shred over time, for the life of me i cant get one of these polyester labels off, im tryin, lol they are mainly backups for my daughter to use in her portable dvd player, not in our home theatre |
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- Bob (I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title)
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- Posted: 14-09-2007
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| yeah i know...........i'm just saying it will throw the drive out of balance while spinning thus causing high Jitter rates at crucial high speed Jitter tests. |
| I just reripped some two year old burns with paper adhesive labels on them today with not problems what so ever...this was a classic rookie mistake when I first started dabbling with burning movies, but have since graduated to an Epson R320 and printable media. The results are much better than paper. |
| I have made about 400 copys and havent had any problems useing the Memorex Labels i buy @ Walmart $10.00 for 120 labels. |
| The memorex paper labels I used originally definately didnt work in my stand alone players (3 of them). I would get the dreaded green blocks and eventuall dvd freeze. All of these movies were burnt on TY02 media. I took the labels off and they worked fine. |
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| YUDEN000-T02-00 as shown in IMGBURN / YUDEN000 T02 (000) as shown in CD/DVD SPEED .......sony MIJ, sorry for the confusion |
| I've put paper labels on over a 100 DVDs, and I'll eventually take them all off. I liked the idea of having nice labels, as opposed to hand-written titles with a Sharpie. When I make my own mix CDs, I like nice color labels on them. Anyhow, most movies with paper labels wouldn't play until I removed the paper label. I peel off what I can by hand, spray the rest with Goo Gone, De-Solv-It, or something similar. Every disc that wouldn't play with a label on it played fine once the label was removed. I've NEVER had to re-burn a disc. I use a Sharpie now, and don't give a rat's ass about fancy labels on my movies, at least not until someone makes labels that work. I have had audio CDs with playback errors in the last several tracks. Maybe it was the labels I used, I don't know. Some labeled discs played fine for years, some never played well at all. Paper must be a bad thing. |
- Bob (I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title)
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- Posted: 08-03-2008
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| http://www.memorex.com/html/products...D=154&opento=8 Sharpie is the way to go, but if you do want to use labels, these work rather well....no paper! |
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Maybe then their own special labels are OK then, who knows. Are you an actual uers of these, beachbumm? Personally, I'll 'stick'... with inkjet printable media.  - are the Canon Pixma still sold without the CD tray in the US? 
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| yes Francksoy, I am a user of these labels.....I havent had a problem with them yet. if you reference post 99 & 101 you'll realize this |
- Bob (I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title)
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- Posted: 11-03-2008
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| I tried paper labels, ugh......had to take em all off....I'd never recommend using them. |
| dont use labels now decided to use lightscribe much better!! shame the drives are not faster at burning the images |
| Paper labels screw up CDs too - as I found out to my peril when rescanning my stash of media. I had always thought it was ok to use them on CDs, but a rash of yellow (Damaged) blocks in Nero CD DVD ScanDisc - that I got rid of when I scratched off the label - convinced me otherwise. Moral of the story - if you have any packs of paper labels, throw them out the window. As for me, I just got some LightScribe discs and I'm waiting for my new LightScribe drive to get here. |
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If the label is thick and heavy enough and the disc spins fast enough, the wobble could get so bad that the disc could actually explode (well, no so much explode as shatter) and put a nice, large dent in the drive. MythBusters did it a few years ago. Granted they had to resort to using a drill spinning at 15,000 RPM, but it wasn’t imbalanced. Wobbling causes discs to break much easier than speed alone, so an imbalanced disc could shatter at a lower speed.
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| Going back over my media stockpile, I found several more CDs that were either damaged albeit recoverrably, or FUBARred, and had matte labels on. Defo gonna throw out the rest of my paper labels now. Lightscribe (or a disc printer + printable discs if that's what floats your boat) FTW! |
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| Bought a PressIt kit a few years ago. Used it on half a dozen CD-Rs (Linux CDs). After a month, not a single one of those discs was still readable. Never again. I've since migrated to a LightScribe burner (actually two, a Liteon LH-20A1H desktop drive and an LG GSA-E50L USB bus-powered portable) and recently (last week) bought a Canon iP4600 and a stack of Verbatim printable discs. The Linux install discs have never looked so good! 
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| I think I've learned my lesson...I was using labels until I discovered the printable ones. Here's a perfect example of what a label can do to a DVD. First Scan - with label With Label.png Second scan - without label Without Label.png As far as the second scan goes, this DVD was a duplicate so I did not clean it properly...I used a solution by the name of Awesome Orange which can probably clean grease caked on someone's engine, (it even smells like engine cleaner) I used paper towels and a kitchen washcloth to wipe it dry. The spikes towards the end are more than likely due to the scratches on it since the disk was on a not so clean surface when I was taking the label off. The label has been on this disk since August of 2007. Think the results are conclusive? By the way, anyone have any idea what kind of disks these are? I bought and used these up long before I even knew about thsi thread and they have given me some decent scan results. |
| I had similar results: About 2 or 3 years ago, I bought some hard-to-find TV shows from a company in Canada (presumanly they had the copyright owners permission to do that) and of the 23 discs, all had full-face paper labels and heaps of glue. Some of the discs were partially unreadable from Day 1, rising to about 1/2 to 3/4 having serious problems within a year. Over the last year or so, I have been using water and scraping tools such as a screwdriver to remove the paper labels and glue (which there was a full layer of) from the discs HOWEVER, though I was able to recover the data in this way, I was unable to bring PI/PO rates down to what would be expected for that caliber of media (TYG 02, which is 8x Taiyo Yuden DVD-R). For that reason and others, I ended up reburning about 1/3 of the discs to MCC 004 (Verbatim DVD+R 16x) and YUDEN000 T02 (Taiyo Yuden DVD+R 8x). Your disc is manufactured by Optodisc, which is should be decent, I think some on here really like it, but most people here would suggest that anything important should only be kept on media made by Taiyo Yuden or made by/for Verbatim (Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation). Your disc is finished - it shows the same signs of permanent damage as my Early Edition TYG02s - either during labelling, while the labels were on, or during removal, the discs were permanently damaged. While it is still readable, those PI rates are not really acceptable. For reference, though, I did get my hands on some of those Memorex polyester DVD labels and they work a treat - I have not had any problems with them so far.
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| Hey Sean, I took notice to the reviews on blank media while browsing this site yesterday...I just wish I found this site earlier in the week since I just ordered new DVD's (Ritek Ridata). I might return them in exchange for either of the ones you mentioned above. I figured the disk was shot so I didn't make much of an effort to clean it off properly or try not to scratch it worse than it already was. I was just experimenting to see how different the results would be without the label. I know this is a bit off topic here, but any thoughts on the DVD burner? Should I consider purchasing a new one? |
| mmmmm....this is a great post so far  I have about 900 dvd's with the sticky label's on them - done over the last 4 years. I live in Australia & the brand i use is either fellows or Techworks. Now while i have encounted no problems - while i am very concerned,i aint fixing what aint broke! PS: Never use Ritek F1 discs!!! |
| So this thread is for those who have used them. After extensive research online I have discovered that CD labels are sometimes not very popular. Common complaints include unreadability after a few plays, labels coming off, longevity of media being decreased, and so forth. Over the last few weeks I have been playing numerous CDRs w/ paper labels attached to them that I've had for between 5-10 years now, and believe it or not, not a single one of them had a problem. I wonder if this issue with CD labels really just isn't a result of general disc abuse? I mean I take care of my CDR media and always put it away in a jewel case after I am done. I don't imagine occasional use hurts at all either. But I mean if you're playing a CDR with a label on it over and over again in a high speed player like the one you have in your car I can see how that'd be a problem since it'd heat the CDR up to the point it'd begin to melt. So I'm interested in hearing both yays and nays about this. Am I the only one that has had luck when using paper labels? |
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