Ritek G05 is crap media!

Hi, guys!

I've found some Verbatim -R 16x (50 discs pack). What do you think? Would you recommend these -R discs?

Thx.

I personally would prefer the +R, but -R is usually good too

Humm... Verbatim was extremely difficult to find. And, besides that, it costs twice the others' prices. I don't really want to pay about US50.00 and find out that it hasn't been a good choice. Will look for it a bit more, anyway.

And what about Sony media?

Thx.

About to cry as 100% of my G05s burnt last year are unreadable now..... Very poor considering that the 1st gen Princo 4x crap media from my DVR-A04 days are still readable!

Also have an unburnt G05 disc and that too isn't usable anymore. Doesn't come up with any identification codes. Looks like the dye layer has just rotted away.

aaronng, you burned how many of G05? They were what brand?

I burnt over 40 out of a 50 cakebox spindle pack. The discs Ritek branded, are inkjet-printable all the way to the inner hub with a thin 3mm ring that is left uncoated. On the inner ring of the printable layer, it's printed in very fine embossing "Ritek. Inkjet White 8x DVD-R4.7GB / 120 min".

The inner ring has the code "D2-20A03601064233F10". As I said, every single one of the burnt discs can't be read by my DVR-108D and DVR-111D, nor on the laptop's Matshita DVD-ROM drive. I have 3 remaining blank discs that I didn't throw out and when they are put into the drive, DVDinfopro just says that it is not a DVD+/-R.

Also, when I first got the discs and used them, the PI readings were very good, matching and usually beating the TYG01 (That's branded) media.

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Last edited by aaronng; 16-10-2007 at 07:50.

I also have Riteks from a different batch that work fine. They are the same inkjet printable ones all the way to the inner hub which has "Dysan. Printable DVD-R 4.7GB 8x". The code on the hub is "D2-13A03511287372A00" and these work fine after 1 year.

Needless to say, I will be backing these up to the new TYG02s that I just purchased today.

Going through my collection, looks like another G05 spindle is slowly starting to fail. This one is older than the other spindle that failed 100%. But few of the discs are having problems being read with the 111D and I have to resort to the 108D instead. This disc is also inkjet printable but the centre hub is frosted and not covered by the printable surface. There are no branding marks and the code is "H5-01L19401039614E13"

Welcome to Ritek Hell.

This is one of the frustrations us old-timers have to deal with. Newbs jump onto the forum and blast away that TY/MCC media is not as good as Ritek which burns absolutely brilliantly, and how they have better scans with ritek than reputable media .....

And 1-2 year(s) later ... after numerous B$ posts by the newbs ... the old-timers are proved right & the forum is littered with posts with bad advice & claims of ... well anyway .. yeah.

Hello Debro, is it all Ritek media that gets bad after some time?

Well, I'm an old-school user, using a Panasonic SCSI CD-R burner and then the Plextor PX-W1210A with the lovely Kodak Golds (before they cheaped out and became gold-silver).

Anyway, I spent $450 on the Pioneer DVR-A04D imported from Europe because PioneerAus was not distributing their burners yet. Back in those days, Princo was considered "A-Grade", and TY was magical media that you could only get in single packs with retail-packaged burners. I remember using the 4x Princos, and also having 15-pack pancake spindle 4x That's TY DVD+R YUDEN000T01 (TC001004) media (which cost $35!) for critical stuff that I could not risk losing. Was so happy when Ritek came out with their G04 and then G05. Most of the G04s were not used for archive stuff, but then when TY media became rarer, I had to shift to G05 for archive instead. It's a good thing that I only lost 1 spindle because I found an online source for TY 4x DVD-R media (GD000267) and then also started using TDK media (TTH02 made in Taiwan though. Could they be Riteks too?)

Just bought a 100 pack of TYG02 (GG07049) and will be having a few sleepless nights transferring data over. Since my burner is a DVR-111D with pretty old 1.29 firmware (Nov-2006), I don't think it would be able to burn the TYG03s with a proper burn strategy, hence I stuck with the TYG02 instead. I would have burnt the TYG03s at 8x anyway, so no loss going for TYG02, hoping that they haven't cheaped out on the manufacturing yet.

Time to put another disc in the burner.

No!

Just the DVD-R media is terrible (apparently, but I haven't had great results with dvd+r media either) ... and it's different between batches .. and there is no way of telling whether you get a good batch or bad batch, until you check it later and find the disc unreadable.

Quick update, after burning about 15 of the new TY, 2 of them have come up with verification errors. Oh well..... at least I have 2 more of those $35 pancake TYs.

I think it is not quite rare to see false verification errors after burning.... I have had this with some versions of Nero (I don't remember what versions) , the discs were in fact OK...
I say this because I am surprised if you have 2 real bad burns out of 15, it is a lot of bad burns for Yuden discs!

It's now 4 out of 30. I used both Nero's verification as well as WinDiff, which compares the original and burnt copy byte for byte. When Windiff says that a byte is different, it is different. That 1 byte is enough to mess up a zipfile.

It could be that something is messing up between my HDD and the data being sent to the laser.

[Off-topic]
I suggest you check your cables, turn off any overclocking, and run a memory checking utility to see if everything is in order.

And the 16x DVD-R has been proven neither 100% unstable nor 100% stable. No reports of degradation on it, though, partly or wholly due to a shift in the technology Ritek uses for the 16x media. [Ritek uses Fuji's technology in manufacturning the discs with F in the MID: RitekF1 and RitekF16, two 16x MIDs for -R/+R, respectively].

Never again! ritek sucks g05 dvd-r media are all coasters dead
And don't buy that if a salesman even tries to sell you those.
Got read errors on each of my disc (100discs), and burning failures.

Hi Hezor, Welcome. Sorry to hear you've been bitten by G05s too

100 discs, I'm glad I didn't have that many to reburn!

Maybe they're fake TY discs? Does the code start with "GG" on the centre hub of the disc?

Yup, was my memory timings being a tad too aggressive. Eventhough I never had any errors testing with 2 instances of Prime95 loaded to tax the CPU and memory over a few days. Well, I reduced my FSB by 4MHz and all the burns have been sweet over the past 20 discs. In just 3 days, I've used up 1/2 of my 100 pack!

The media is real. As I said, they are GG007049. Turns out it was my FSB.