new at FRY'S, GQ DVD-R, "ISSM R02"
| Blank Media Discuss, new at FRY'S, GQ DVD-R, "ISSM R02" at Consumables forum; Whenever I make a trip to Fry's (about 44 miles or 50 minutes each way), I usually pick up one or two spindles of their media. They almost always have 16x +R and -R on sale, either 50 pack for $9 or $9.50, or 100 pack for $18. For a |
Posted: 29-12-2007 - #1
| Whenever I make a trip to Fry's (about 44 miles or 50 minutes each way), I usually pick up one or two spindles of their media. They almost always have 16x +R and -R on sale, either 50 pack for $9 or $9.50, or 100 pack for $18. For a long time, I was getting Sony media, but this week I got something new. The 16x DVD-R under the GQ (Great Quality) brand was "ISSM R02". I found one hit on VideoHelp for this media, and I just another post there on these blank discs. These seem to be fairly average media, neither the best nor the worst. Here, for the first post, is a 16x burn on my Samsung 203. |
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Posted: 29-12-2007 - #2
| And here's a 16x burn on my Liteon 20A4P. |
Posted: 30-12-2007 - #3
| Here's another, burnt with my LG-H10N. The maximum speed offered was 8x, which I chose, and the burn seemed to actually be at 6x. Nevertheless, an excellent burn, and I am going to try more of these. |
Posted: 01-01-2008 - #5
| Yes, good results for some of those 16x burns. The slower burn looks far better and I strongly suggest burning them all @ 4x, 6x or 8x. Btw, remember to scan these discs in a month or so to make sure they are not degrading.
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #6
| Are they MIT or MIC/MIHK ? Looks good but how about playability ? As cd-pirate said : you should keep an eye on these for any degradation
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #7
| Insane PIE levels reported with 16X burns, and you guys consider these 16X rated discs as OK?  In my book, the only OK scan is the one from the 8X burn in the LG.... I can't take seriously any fresh burn showing more than a weighted average of PIE-60 in a Lite-on scan. These drives tend to be over-optimistic for PIE levels so the levels above are IMO quite alarming. I consider these scans as indicative of mediocre media or mediocre firmware support for this MID. Besides, considering that GQ seems to sell fake MKM, I would personally stay away from anything with the GQ label. "Buy cheap, buy twice" -
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #8
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I was there today, and i looked at +R and -R GQ media, none of them had point of origin on the spindle.
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #9
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I thought it was NOT legal in the USA  Frank : I overlooked PIE levels (I always do  ) just because even Verbatim DVD-R 16X media most of the time has higher PIE
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #10
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 I would personally be angry to get such high PIEs from MCC burns. Last time I had such high PIEs with a 'reputable' media manufacturer, it was with TDK TTH02 (16X -R). Whatever, my point is, such a dramatic (real huge!) difference in PIE reported between a 8X burn and 16X burns, with 16X rated media.... IMO => not a sign of good media.  (can also be firmware support of course).
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #11
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A: It's unknown shitty media getting burnt @ 16x - I would've expected a total coaster, really high PIF at the very least. B: The result is a readable disc in the liteon with respectable PIF levels C: Compared to the latest batch of MCC004 new style packaging I got burnt @ 16x................
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #12
| MCC 004 scans are a bit off-topic in this thread about ISSM R02 media. 
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #13
| The high PIEs seem to be a result of burning on the Samsung 203, not a result of 16x versus 8x burning. As proof, I offer an 8x burn on the Samsung. |
Posted: 02-01-2008 - #14
| And here's a 16x burn on an LG-H62N. Notice that the total PIEs are almost a full order of magnitude less than the previous burn at 8x on the Samsung 203. As all of the regulars here know quite well, this does not indicate that the LG is a better burner than the Samsung. It just tells us that the LG likes this particular media, and the Samsung doesn't. |
Posted: 02-01-2008 - #16
| Here's a quality test from a Benq 1655, same disc as post number 14 above. |
Posted: 02-01-2008 - #17
| Same disc as post number 1 (above). 16x burn on Samsung 203, this time read by a Benq 1655. I'm not sure why you wanted to see this, and I absolutely refuse to be drawn into which drive is better for quality scanning. Now that Benq no longer manufactures drives suitable for quality scanning, I consider this to be a moot point. |
Posted: 02-01-2008 - #18
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Posted: 02-01-2008 - #19
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@ HenryNettles - the LG and lower burn speeds are definitely the winner with this media. Your 16x burns seem to jump in jitter as the burn speed rises so I'd keep below 16x at all times for safety as some dvd players struggle with high jitter burns.
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Posted: 03-01-2008 - #20
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Posted: 03-01-2008 - #21
 I have used GQ media from Fry's (Sony Media Corp) and never had a problem, I used a copied dvd just the other day and scaned fine after 10 months of storage! 
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Posted: 03-01-2008 - #22
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Posted: 04-01-2008 - #23
| Horrible media. Regards, TerminalVeloCD
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Posted: 06-01-2008 - #24
| Any way to tell that new ISSM media from the Sony D21 Great Value media that Fry's has been selling for at least the past year? I'd like to scoop up on the Sony based GV media (either + or - ) - get some right now before it's replaced with the newer ISSM media - if it's even possible to still get the Sony based GV. To HNEttles - did you go to the Plano Fry's by any chance? Thanks |
Posted: 06-01-2008 - #25
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If you really like Sony media, you'd be better off buying the Sony-brand version anyway. The Daxons are way better than the Lead Datas. |
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