Old 31-07-2008   #1
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Great Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x fake MCC 004 compared to genuine MCC 004

GQ DVD+R 16x

Obviously these arent real MCC004 but I still wanted to see how well they performed compared to real verbatims.

$16.99-frys electronics per 100 spindle

Disc Type DVD+R
Book Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Media ID MCC004
Protection System None
Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity 4.38 GB
Free Size 0.00 GB
Free Blocks 0
Number of Layers 1
Maximum Rate Not Specified
Linear Density 0.267 um/bit
Track Density 0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed 8.0x
Maximum Write Speed 18.0x
Current Write Speed 8.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1 18.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 2 16.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 3 12.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 4 8.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 5 4.0x CLV

TESTS DONE A SAMSUNG SH-183L SB03- 4.1GB burn-data

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definitely some quality differences when compared to real MCC004

Disc Type DVD+R
Book Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Media ID MCC004
Protection System None
Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity 4.38 GB
Free Size 0.00 GB
Free Blocks 0
Number of Layers 1
Maximum Rate Not Specified
Linear Density 0.267 um/bit
Track Density 0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed 10.0x
Maximum Write Speed 18.0x
Current Write Speed 18.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1 18.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 2 16.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 3 12.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 4 8.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 5 4.0x CLV

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much better than the fake
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Re: Geat Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x

And now you see why asking about stuff really benefits your knowledge. You won't be unknowingly using that "crud" GQ stuff anymore.

And with this comparison, you've probably helped out some people that don't know better. Cool.

All in all, though, the GQ media isn't as bad as it could have been. :/
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Re: Great Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x fake MCC 004 compared to genuine MCC 004

Since this thread doesn't follow the format of the Blank DVD Media Tests sub-forum (e.g. one manufacturer per thread) and no discussions, I have moved it to the Blank Media forum and expanded the title.

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Re: Geat Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x

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And now you see why asking about stuff really benefits your knowledge. You won't be unknowingly using that "crud" GQ stuff anymore.


There isn't anything inherently wrong with GQ media. It all depends on the country of manufacture and the actual media. In the past, you could get genuine MIT Sony media from them, and it burned well.

I assume that this new media is MIC using borrowed MCC codes, and now they are doing the same thing as other house brands like Playo, NexxTech, and Dynex. It's a race to the bottom, but one that can not be specifically blamed on GQ. This is just market economics in general.
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Re: Great Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x fake MCC 004 compared to genuine MCC 004

Congrats on your first forum post, Matix

I have to agree with negritude
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Re: Geat Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x

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There isn't anything inherently wrong with GQ media. It all depends on the country of manufacture and the actual media. In the past, you could get genuine MIT Sony media from them, and it burned well.

I assume that this new media is MIC using borrowed MCC codes, and now they are doing the same thing as other house brands like Playo, NexxTech, and Dynex. It's a race to the bottom, but one that can not be specifically blamed on GQ. This is just market economics in general.
I was specifically talking about matix's fake MCC media being cruddy [I had already been discussing it with matix, and it was like the "continuation" of the conversation]. I wasn't talking about "those" GQ, as in all GQ. I remember well that people liked the Sony GQ stuff, and am still not saying that all GQ is bad. Just a bit of misunderstanding.
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I was specifically talking about matix's fake MCC media being cruddy [I had already been discussing it with matix, and it was like the "continuation" of the conversation]. I wasn't talking about "those" GQ, as in all GQ. I remember well that people liked the Sony GQ stuff, and am still not saying that all GQ is bad. Just a bit of misunderstanding.
What makes these Cruddy?
I bought a 100 pack of GQ yesterday and these were MCC004
I have an LG burner so i cant test them.
Are these dvds really that bad?
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$16.99-frys electronics per 100 spindle
Why oh why not pay 3 bucks more for the real stuff? I will never understand...
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Why oh why not pay 3 bucks more for the real stuff? I will never understand...
Beacause it was a Gift...Anyway these dvds burned fine without crc errors
what else makes them bad?
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Re: Great Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x fake MCC 004 compared to genuine MCC 004

Lol now that is funny, the real stuff only costs 3 bucks more per 100 discs.

@ pixiestix - well some people are a little fussy on these forums and don't like getting too many errors. The discs you got are probably going to work fine. They might have 10x more errors than genuine Verbatim discs but it probably won't cause any drama for you at all despite that.

Would I trust them to last years and years... no. But as cheap everyday discs you probably won't encounter any problems.

I got some crappy fake MCC003 discs a while ago. I just use them for watching stuff then pretty much never use again after I watched. They work good even in my fussy dvd player. The error levels are fairly high and unimpressive but hey, they really aren't too bad.
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Re: Great Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x fake MCC 004 compared to genuine MCC 004

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Beacause it was a Gift...Anyway these dvds burned fine without crc errors
what else makes them bad?
100% agree with cd pirate.

Maybe you could look at THIS thread and compare the stamper codes to see who made it
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Re: Geat Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x

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What makes these Cruddy?
I bought a 100 pack of GQ yesterday and these were MCC004
I have an LG burner so i cant test them.
Are these dvds really that bad?
I believe they had some sort of recording and/or playback issue [unfortunately, this part of the conversation was carried in the chatbox, not in a thread], and the discs just weren't performing quite as well as he had wanted/needed. The scans back this up a bit.

As far as general everyday use, the scan on the fake media is passable if it's unimportant data on a tolerant drive. Here, I agree with cd pirate.
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Re: Great Quality (GQ) DVD+R 16x fake MCC 004 compared to genuine MCC 004

Related thread in the Bargain Basement:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f58/great-q...ronics-253620/
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