Old 04-06-2009   #1
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Best way to store large amounts of DVDs?

Basically, I'm looking for a way to store 600 odd DVD-Rs. I bought a storage chest but the problem is that when I put a new DVD in there I have to shift everything along, because it's alphabetically stored so it's more trouble than it's worth.

Would it be safe to keep burned DVDs in cake boxes? I'm told that DVD-Rs have to be kept on their side (vertical) to last properly as opposed to flat (horizontal), which would be the cake tub standing up. Would this be the case if they're all packed against each other?

What do you guys do? Thanks for any help.
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I have a very similar question. I have around the same number of DVD-rs, and would like to know the best storage method. I've done some searching around for a thread about the best way to do this, but can't find a definitive answer. Here's what I've been able to gather about the most popular methods.

Cakeboxes
pros
-very likely contained the blank media when bought, so no extra purchase needed
-compact
-great protectors against dust

cons
-risk warping from weight
-don't protect from sunlight
-finding discs is not an easy task

Jewel or Slimline Cases
pros
-probably best protectors against dust and sunlight
-little to no warp risk from weight

cons
-can get very pricey very quickly
-take up a lot of room
-requires labeling of each case for easy organization (which can be a pain if switching to this method and one already has labeled all the discs)

Polyboxes/DJ Cases
pros
-protects well against sunlight, don't have to worry about warping due to weight
-space-efficient

cons
-uses individual sleeve storage which scratch up discs very easily, especially if sleeves are of poor quality

Wallets
pros
-easy to find desired disc

cons
-risk warping from weight (would this be a problem if stored vertically?)
-depending on how wallet is made, could be poor protector against dust

For the sake of convenience, space, and money, I'm leaning toward wallets stored so the discs are vertical to avoid weight/warp issues. Am I missing something that should place another storage method higher up than this?

I have one Case Logic wallet that I find very well-designed, but is also full - there are many more temporarily stored in cakeboxes that need a better home, though, and I want to make sure I'm storing them right.

Also, I don't mean to bump an old thread, but I figure it's better to use this existing thread rather than creating a new one, since there's a higher chance of SG seeing it answered (assuming SG checks Control Panel and posted threads show up in it).
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Hey, thanks for the very informative post. The problem that I have with large storage cases is that the storage is always 2-sided (2 to a wallet), so if you want to insert a new DVD you can't just pop it inbeween the others if you order them (which you'd have to be bonkers not to, it'd be chaos!).

What about those plastic envelopes and just shelving them? These: http://www.svp.co.uk/consumables/cas...0-sleeves.html

They'd take up about the same amount of space as a cake tub (i.e. no bulky cases, just a thin piece of film) - can they harm the disc?
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^ I have one set of my archives (TY discs) stores in those wallets in small boxes....after a good 3-4 years they seem fine ...if you have any concerns though, scan/TRT them every 6 months or so to check for any deterioration.

I use the wallets from Asda though, they seem to be better quality. And easier for me to get!

Another set is on Verbatim DVD media, stored in a binder. Again these have been just fine for 3-4 years - in fact, I've just finished testing the Verbatim set, with not one dodgy disc so far.

I also keep the entire backup on an external 1TB WD HDD. Paranoid, moi?
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^I also keep the entire backup on an external 1TB WD HDD. Paranoid, moi?
If you're loaded (have cash) you can buy one of those snazzy mechanical storage box that connects to your PC and if you tell it to, it will pick the correct disc from inside the box and present it to you. One thing you gotta ask is: if the whole thing broke, are your discs going to be stuck inside there, or getting scratched or burned to death or whichever haha

A lot of ppl these days are using HDDs instead of burning stuff into discs for backup ....... I'm still using discs but my Liteon 20A1 have started to fail and storing tons of discs makes things hard to find at the right time i think. I might switch to HDD backup.
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I've built up a large collection of TV/films (nearly 3000 discs) and I use lots of Datasafe zipped 80-pocket holders - they have smooth plastic faces and slide easily on each other when stored on bookshelves. Bought from SVP in Devon over the years.
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I have found Cakeboxes are not a good place to keep your media, even more so if you need to get access to it often.

Soft folders/cases are very good when you find the well made ones with the sleeves made from the right stuff (not all shiny/glossy plastic, the so called fabric backing is what I have found to be better for the life of the disk) but the main point to remember is not to over fill them, I get 120 DVD ones with a stiff binder back with removable sleeves and fill to 80~90 max, and do not zip them up fully some I have found seem to warp the disk if zipped up and left for some time.
Best way is to store them up right in a covered draw, box or chest.

Cloth Lined PVC Sleeves For Two Discs This is the cheap way (cheapest I have found that works well), and also turns out to be a very good and easy to catalogue them because they have two holes punched in the sides they can go in ring binders, or I use "treasury tags" to put thru the holes to keep sets (say a set of OS backup images) together and then store in covered boxes (like a shoe box) or even plain boxes. I have card markers between them and I use some catalogue tools on the computers that give me the box number and stack number (I mark the sets low at front, high back) where inside, so say box 5 stack 5 and I can get to the bunch very quickly.

I also have a few of the DJ type alloy boxes but TBH I gave up on them, they will cost a lot of money when the numbers really stack up. I must have 10,000 odd disks catalogued away and almost that again in the process.
But its all down to the numbers you have and how often you need to get to them, and I expect how much money you want to spend.
DVD/jewel type cases are great for small numbers, I use these for my DVD RW's where the data gets used often and quite short lived, the soft folder cases for the stuff that gets used often and has to be moved around, and the boxes and sleeves for the main storage, and just burn to RW if the data needs to go off site.

Its not perfect but the best way I have found for larger numbers that you need to be able to get hold of them quickly without having to handle the media too much.
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If you're loaded (have cash) you can buy one of those snazzy mechanical storage box that connects to your PC and if you tell it to, it will pick the correct disc from inside the box and present it to you. One thing you gotta ask is: if the whole thing broke, are your discs going to be stuck inside there, or getting scratched or burned to death or whichever haha

A lot of ppl these days are using HDDs instead of burning stuff into discs for backup ....... I'm still using discs but my Liteon 20A1 have started to fail and storing tons of discs makes things hard to find at the right time i think. I might switch to HDD backup.
Yeah, that's why I use both discs + HDD to backup. Obviously nothing's foolproof, but I'm hoping 2 sets of CD/DVD media and the HDD might offer me some chance of saving something

That storage box you mentioned sounds pretty funky. My step-dad (a DJ who loves his music) would love that
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Yeah, that's why I use both discs + HDD to backup. Obviously nothing's foolproof, but I'm hoping 2 sets of CD/DVD media and the HDD might offer me some chance of saving something

That storage box you mentioned sounds pretty funky. My step-dad (a DJ who loves his music) would love that
Wow you aren't kidding when it comes to backup

Here's the thing I mentioned
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I use zipped wallets for 24 discs & store them vertically in a cupboard so discs are proected from dust & light

I have been finding, however, that sometimes a Dvd which has been in storage unplayed for 2 - 3 years then gives a CRC error when I try to copy it back onto to my PC hard drive & that is with Verbatim DVD+R or DVD-R media, rated at 16x burned at 8x. Usually they wil still work in a stand alone DVD player but there does seem to be some deterioration over time ( unless I did not burn/verify them properly in the 1st place! ).

So I try to keep valuable stuff on external hard drives also
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Whoa, certainly looks pricey. It's even password protected!

Pretty sleek-looking though
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I use leather cases with cloth lined sleeves that hold 4 DVDs to each side. This is basically like a huge notebook. They come in various sizes but the big ones can hold several hundred DVDs.

This is the most space efficient way to stone the discs, but there is one other HUGE advantage to this method that other posters haven't mentioned. This is the best way to BROWSE your collection. If you are like me you will have friends over and will want to watch a movie so you will need to browse your collection. that is very hard to do with DVDs in slim cases, or boxes. With these books you can browse your discs very quickly, Each time you turn the page you see 8 DVDs. You can have different cases for different genres of movies or organize them however you want.
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Hey, thanks for the very informative post. The problem that I have with large storage cases is that the storage is always 2-sided (2 to a wallet), so if you want to insert a new DVD you can't just pop it inbeween the others if you order them (which you'd have to be bonkers not to, it'd be chaos!).
I use the large storage cases but only the 1 side, May seem like a waste but I feel more comfortable that way.

I also have 5 of the storage machines which are very nice but they are pricey.
I get 150 disc in them ,but I get 250 in my storage case at 1 fifth of the price of the machine.
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I use the large storage cases but only the 1 side, May seem like a waste but I feel more comfortable that way.

I also have 5 of the storage machines which are very nice but they are pricey.
I get 150 disc in them ,but I get 250 in my storage case at 1 fifth of the price of the machine.
That' a thought but I'd need to get an extra amount of these pouches to fill the box.

Also: OPINIONS ON PLASTIC ENVELOPES VS FABRIC BACKING?
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Whoa, certainly looks pricey. It's even password protected!
Pretty sleek-looking though
They're marketing it as a secure disc storage but they tell you how to pry open the box and methods to get the discs out right there on the front page

Anyway, its cd cases for me. I don't trust those paper sleeves, I think some of em scratched my discs.
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From my experience all methods of storage like paper sleeves, plastic sleeves and wallets all produced fine scratches to the discs
I have only found cd boxes reliable because the data part of the disc does not make contact with the plastic. But boxes take to much storage space, so I would like a solution that doesn't take too much space but doesn't scratch the discs.
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From my experience all methods of storage like paper sleeves, plastic sleeves and wallets all produced fine scratches to the discs
I have only found cd boxes reliable because the data part of the disc does not make contact with the plastic. But boxes take to much storage space, so I would like a solution that doesn't take too much space but doesn't scratch the discs.
well slimline cd cases is probably your best option. we used those when converting all out home movie vhs to DVD. BUt they don't keep out the light like proper black DVD cases do & I've read that keeping out the light is important for long life as UV will damage the dye over time.

It is also possible to buy individual slim, half-height black DVD cases.
I had some a while ago but I forget where I bought them online.
they take up much less space than regular dvd cases & you can slip labels into the sleeves.

but if you are really into space saving just get a 1TB external hard drive!
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That' a thought but I'd need to get an extra amount of these pouches to fill the box.

Also: OPINIONS ON PLASTIC ENVELOPES VS FABRIC BACKING?
When filling both side I think it had to much in the case. So only using the 1 side it fit nicely without cramming them in.

Plastic or Fabric will scratch if you are not careful so I don't think that matters that much except price wise.

Just handle them like you would an LP Record, very gently.
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The 2 CD fabric sleeves I have the link to in my first post dont scratch the disks I use, well not so far in 4+ years of use, paper ones can, and do, but these are not the same and cant seem to because the part that comes in contact with the data side are so soft.

The clear plastic singles I have used in that past can/do scratch, but I think its more because of dust getting into them that can cause the slight scratching, one of the reasons why I say to use the covered boxes (and because of the light). If they are left upright in an open box they get dust particles falling into the slight gap they have at the top.

Also if your silly about pulling the fold in flap out, it is possible to scratch the disk, as said above just be smart about using them or "Just handle them like you would an LP Record, very gently."
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Hmmm I could double up on the fabric sleeves - anyone know where I can buy them though? I'd need little hangy things for them to go in my case like the ons that came with it, too.
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Fellowes ones from Staples if you have one near you - we have some and they're pretty good (only use the one side though as mentioned).

Or you could buy online from Staples I think.
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I leave them in the Cake Spindle and number each spindle and use that in my excel spreadsheet along with title, genre, year, mins, and ratings. I can sort easily with excel. Each Cake Spindle goes into an Office Depot Box ($2) that is stack/stored in my closet. Problem solved and this method is CHEAP $$. I have hundreds of DVDs and hardly ever watch movies more than once. I'm able to retrieve relatively quickly any movie for lending or watching and my visible shelves and PC area are cleared. My biggest pain right now is adding a column for the imdb link for each movie into my spreadsheet so I can review ratings and movie details on actors, directors, plots, trivia, messages, etc. with a one click operation from my PC. I also print out my Movie list in alphabetical order so guests can pick out a movie to watch when I'm entertaining. I punch out holes in the pages and put this in a nice binder for easy access. I know its simple but cash is king and I can't afford the time or money for elaborate systems. Someday, I may just put everything on a media server and play it from that, but until then I have many DVDs, DVD-+R, etc., so this works well for now.
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