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thorpedy (New on Forum)
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Posted: 09-04-2007
I heard if you have a chip and use low-quality media in your ps2 it damages the ps2. Which media is best for ps2 backups? I have a chipped slim model (black)
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kg_evilboy (CD Freaks Boy Toy)
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Posted: 09-04-2007
You should use good quality media to avoid stressing the drive.
Some good quality media would be genuine Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim.
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Arachne (Senior Moderator & Reviewer)
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Posted: 09-04-2007
Welcome to the forum

A good post from cd pirate on the subject of PS2 backups, pretty much the same recommendations as Evilboy: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=12
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Jedi Master Yoda (Moderator)
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Posted: 09-04-2007
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Originally Posted by thorpedy
I heard if you have a chip and use low-quality media in your ps2 it damages the ps2. Which media is best for ps2 backups? I have a chipped slim model (black)
Well i have'nt heard that before, but as the others said go for genuine Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim thats what i use and they work a treat. Oh i must mention though older PS2 may have trouble with +R discs, i not saying they dont read them im just saying they may have trouble with them.
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Following the trend..

Drives...
Pioneer 116D 1.09
LiteOn DH-20A4P 9P59
Plextor Premium 2 1.03
Lite-On SOHR 5239V 2$0E (2nd pc)
Aopen 1648/AAP Pro 1.04 (in pvr)
Samsung SH-D162C Kreons 0.81 (In External Case)

Retired...
Pioneer DVR-111D 1.29
Lite-On LH-20A1H LL0D (no longer working properly)
Pioneer DVR-109XLC1 1.58 - Conked out...
Lite-On SHW-16H5S LS0W (retired, not working properly with cds)
Plextor PX-W2410A 1.04
Pioneer A05

PC Spec...
Gigabyte K8N Pro SLi, AMD 64 X2 3800+, 2GB G.Skill PC3200 ( CL 2-3-2-5,) Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, MSI 7800GTX, OCZ Modstream 520W, Seagate 120GB x2 + 320GB Sata HDD, Artic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro

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kg_evilboy (CD Freaks Boy Toy)
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Posted: 09-04-2007
Jedi Master Yoda: It is always possible that embedded optical devices may have a lower build quality...

To increase compatibility, bitsetting DVD+R is always a good idea.
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LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (broken tray), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold), Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z (caught fire)
Canon Pixma iP4300

For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me!
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Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!”

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soneman (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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Posted: 09-04-2007
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master Yoda
Well i have'nt heard that before, but as the others said go for genuine Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim thats what i use and they work a treat. Oh i must mention though older PS2 may have trouble with +R discs, i not saying they dont read them im just saying they may have trouble with them.
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To increase compatibility, bitsetting DVD+R is always a good idea.
PS2 versions 1, 2 and 3 will always have problems in reading DVD+R media - even if it is bitset to DVD-ROM.

The lens' in those machines just weren't designed to read anything but dash media. You have to remember that they were manufactured pre-2002.

And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the DVD+R/RW format introduced to the public in 2002? So DVD+R playback in those machines is unlikely.
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cd pirate (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 09-04-2007
Well the slimline PS2 will read +R discs but I would recommend using Verbatim 8x -R or 16x -R if you can't use the 8x. The 8x -R load faster in my fussy DVD players and I have not had trouble with them in the PS2. What kind of DVD burner do you have btw?
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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

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loimlo (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 11-04-2007
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Originally Posted by soneman
PS2 versions 1, 2 and 3 will always have problems in reading DVD+R media - even if it is bitset to DVD-ROM.

The lens' in those machines just weren't designed to read anything but dash media. You have to remember that they were manufactured pre-2002.

And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the DVD+R/RW format introduced to the public in 2002? So DVD+R playback in those machines is unlikely.
Don't believe specs too much, my old Pioneer A05 could read DVD+R with booktype.
Even a original 10000 reads DVD+R smoothly, it's common to PS2. My 15000 reads DVD+R perfectly.
Though, you have to booktype to DVD-ROM, normal DVD+R is NO.
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lucky644 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 30-04-2007
Just a note...For all my other console burns I've used Ritek -R 8x (g05) and Optodisc -R 8x without any fails.

But for my newly modded PS2 (slim v15) none of those work, the only thing I've gotten to work that is in my dvd collection are my 16x Optodiscs, and they're flaky at best.

I've never had problems with optodisc in the past.
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kg_evilboy (CD Freaks Boy Toy)
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Posted: 30-04-2007
Well, you're very lucky if your RITEK G05 still work.
Most of us had lots of trouble with these, and they're infamous for their degradation.
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2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, BenQ DW1655 BCDB, Samsung TS-L632H SC04, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01
LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (broken tray), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold), Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z (caught fire)
Canon Pixma iP4300

For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me!
(You must be into sneakers too to get your info )

Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!”

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lucky644 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 01-05-2007
Everyone seems to say Verbatim, any specific product code (like G05 etc) or a specific speed?
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Jedi Master Yoda (Moderator)
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Posted: 01-05-2007
Well on my slimline (v15) and on my old Full size PS2 (v5) i use Verbatim x8 -R (MCC02RG20), Taiyo Yuden -R x16 (TYG03) and Taiyo Yuden -R x8 (TYG02) and they work perfectly fine. They x16 disc's was burnt at x12 and the other 2 at x8
__________________

Following the trend..

Drives...
Pioneer 116D 1.09
LiteOn DH-20A4P 9P59
Plextor Premium 2 1.03
Lite-On SOHR 5239V 2$0E (2nd pc)
Aopen 1648/AAP Pro 1.04 (in pvr)
Samsung SH-D162C Kreons 0.81 (In External Case)

Retired...
Pioneer DVR-111D 1.29
Lite-On LH-20A1H LL0D (no longer working properly)
Pioneer DVR-109XLC1 1.58 - Conked out...
Lite-On SHW-16H5S LS0W (retired, not working properly with cds)
Plextor PX-W2410A 1.04
Pioneer A05

PC Spec...
Gigabyte K8N Pro SLi, AMD 64 X2 3800+, 2GB G.Skill PC3200 ( CL 2-3-2-5,) Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, MSI 7800GTX, OCZ Modstream 520W, Seagate 120GB x2 + 320GB Sata HDD, Artic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro

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lucky644 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 01-05-2007
Hmmm...I had a couple 4x Optodiscs here...just tried one, worked perfectly.

Ugh, weird..
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cd pirate (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 01-05-2007
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Originally Posted by lucky644
Just a note...For all my other console burns I've used Ritek -R 8x (g05) and Optodisc -R 8x without any fails.

But for my newly modded PS2 (slim v15) none of those work, the only thing I've gotten to work that is in my dvd collection are my 16x Optodiscs, and they're flaky at best.

I've never had problems with optodisc in the past.

Lol... G05 always worked brilliant, right after it was burnt. Then 6 months or so down the track....
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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

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lucky644 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 01-05-2007
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Originally Posted by cd pirate
Lol... G05 always worked brilliant, right after it was burnt. Then 6 months or so down the track....
Ugh...great...I have a bunch....

Anyhow, it appears my Optodisc 8x +R work perfectly.

OPTODISC-OR8-00
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cd pirate (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 3,234
Posted: 01-05-2007
I don't know much about optodisc, but as long as they work perfectly and aren't filled with errors.

I saw a review on cdrinfo, the optodisc had quite a low reflectiveness. This can vary from disc to disc but I doubt it would be much higher than what they measured, which was .38

Personally, I would be using some verbatim 8x -R for my PS2 games. Or other verbatim if you can't find the 8x -r. They burn with low errors and high reflectiveness, so the ps2 laser would struggle less.

But I can't say there is too much wrong with optodisc 0R8. As long as it doesn't degrade over time like Ritek G05, it should be fine to use.
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Best DVD media:

Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R
DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R
Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R

Ritek G05 media =

My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

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