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Blank Optical Media Discuss, aone umedisc double layer at Hardware forum; just bought some of the usual aone discs from planetdiscs and have noticed that they have changed the dye. anyone any opinion on these as a budget disc? have used the aone before with the ricoh dye (prolly fake i know) but just noticed they have changed the dye to

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    just bought some of the usual aone discs from planetdiscs and have noticed that they have changed the dye. anyone any opinion on these as a budget disc? have used the aone before with the ricoh dye (prolly fake i know) but just noticed they have changed the dye to a umedisc i know i could spend more money and get the verbs but they are not used for anything critical
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    Yes, they are completely unusable.
    Bought a 10pc cake, 10 failed discs (unreadable second layer).
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    wow thats bad. what burner were u using? what speed? did it burn the 2nd layer and just fail on verification
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    wow thats bad. what burner were u using? what speed? did it burn the 2nd layer and just fail on verification
    It's not burner related, but to the crap media.
    Burners tried, 4x and 2.4x speed: Pioneer DVR-112L, 216L, LiteOn 20A4P, BenQ DW1650, Plextor PX-760A

    Burning finished in most cases.
    Here's a scan, you should expect something like that in the worst case.

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    I have to disagree with the above reviewer, based on my own experiences using the AOne Gold Edition. I burned a few DVD backups onto them, to mixed results. When I first started burning DL discs, I was unaware of the layer break or the extra things you had to do to create a readable disc, so my first batch were spoilt mainly by user error and a faulty discs.

    So I went away for a while and figured I must be doing something wrong, so I bought another ten pack, all discs are working flawlessly and burned into the second layer, even at 8x speeds. I have no particular interest in charts like the many gracious members of Club MyCE, but the discs are still copyable one month later.

    Means nothing I know, but most discs that are garbage fail outright when they come to verify. So, in my experience, I can vouch for these discs.

    Having a horrendous experience with Verbatim DL, I will stay away from them. Which is pretty bad considering Verbatim is supposed to be the only reliable DL source around
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    My posting is over 2 years old, times have changed

    I haven't bought any Aone (Ume Disc) media recently because regular Ritek DL media is also very cheap, but according to some people that use them more often they seem to be ok now.

    As far as Verbatim is concerned...they're not what they were used to either. Just the other way around.
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    ACK! I hadn't noticed the date, please forgive me!

    Ah yes, I heard about Ritek DL media - It seems slightly more expensive than the Ricoh AOne discs, and for that reason alone, I'll continue to buy AOne. It doesn't make sense to buy a new set of DL which could be an expensive diaster when I have got comfy with my current Ricoh discs.

    How are the Ritek D01 - If I remember, that is the code for Ritek DL?

    *EDIT* I've just realised that my discs are still Ricoh fakes - They don't have the UmeDisc MID! Still, I'm sure that's not important as UmeDisc make the AOne anyway
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    It's not burner related, but to the crap media.
    Burners tried, 4x and 2.4x speed: Pioneer DVR-112L, 216L, LiteOn 20A4P, BenQ DW1650, Plextor PX-760A

    Burning finished in most cases.
    Here's a scan, you should expect something like that in the worst case.

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    Just to also quote this reply, my current burner in a computer which I think might have gone bust is the BenQ DW1650 and it handles the AOne Ricoh fakes extremely well - I haven't done a scan, but ImgBurn passes onto the second layer and even verifies

    Interestingly however, the BenQ burner burns at funny rates. Let's say if I set it to 4x - It might burn at 2.4x - Okay that's not so strange - But sometimes it might burn at 1x, 0.8x, etc... But it never allows it to outright fail

    But other than that, it verifies really well on the same burner - And copies onto hard drive two months later. I know they are hit and miss - They either fail outright or work - But the cost savings compared to Verbatim are simply too expensive.
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    I haven't seen any Ritek D01 (= 2.4x) in a while, I guess they're long out of production.
    I have about 75 of them, most of them are "Arita" branded (Ritek budget brand). They are about 3 years old and still ok.

    Ritek S04 (= 8x) as in Platinum DVD+R DL media in a good DL burner (Optiarc AD-7260S for example) are very reliable in my experience.

    It's nice to hear that your DW1650 can handle those UmeDisc DLs. Mine doesn't do a good job on anything other than MKMs.
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    I do remember seeing in my local supplier some 8x Traxdata and 2.4x Arita discs, are these any good?

    Ritek S04... Interesting, I've not heard of that MID code. is it any good? The Platinum brand I'm a little wary of as it sounds like an unknown, though I'm willing to try out new MID codes - Just not another costly Verbatim disc
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    Chad, could you post at least one quality scan of those Aone media?
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    Ritek S04... Interesting, I've not heard of that MID code. is it any good?
    I have this MID from Philips and TDK DL 8x, they work fine in Pioneer 115 with 4x speed, better than Verbatim DL made in India.
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    I have this MID from Philips and TDK DL 8x, they work fine in Pioneer 115 with 4x speed, better than Verbatim DL made in India.
    Game, set and match

    On a serious note, it must be a European MID code, as it this MID code is typically seen in German Discs - I have yet to see this MID code in English discs, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

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