13y Old CD-R Scan....

Blank Media Discuss, 13y Old CD-R Scan.... at Consumables forum; Just found this old CD-R that I recorded just under 13 years ago!!! Kodak Writable CD with InfoGuard Protection System, still looking good for its age! Now scanned with a BenQ.... Attached Images BENQ____DVD_LS_DW1655_BCGB_26-August-2006_19_35.png (39.1 KB, 328 views) P1000166a.JPG (66.9 KB, 328 views)

Old Posted: 26-08-2006
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Just found this old CD-R that I recorded just under 13 years ago!!!

Kodak Writable CD with InfoGuard Protection System, still looking good for its age!

Now scanned with a BenQ....
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Old Posted: 26-08-2006
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Lite-On DVD writers are not capable of scanning CD-R.
Please use a Lite-On CD writer, or a Plextor, BenQ or NEC DVD writer.
Yes, the 1655 would be much more suitable.
(Sorry for busting the bubble.)
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Just re-scanned with a BenQ.
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Old Posted: 26-08-2006
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Oh yes, still looks good.
Is it a 71 or 74 minute CD-R?
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Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-
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Not sure if its a 71 or 74..... didn't know you could get 71 minute discs. Nothing on the disc or case to indicate its capacity.

CDSpeed disc info....
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Wow, very nice! I think this is the oldest scan I've seen on here
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Old Posted: 26-08-2006
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Very nice indeed!
My oldest burn would probably be a PSOne Game dating 1997.
I should scan it, brb after I find it lol.
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Good idea XND1n01h, would be interesting to see some other old media scans.

Not sure how well some of my first DVD burns will scan in 13 years
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Quote:
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Not sure how well some of my first DVD burns will scan in 13 years
Haha, yeah that's true.

Look forward to seeing that scan, XND1n01h
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmsteele
Not sure if its a 71 or 74..... didn't know you could get 71 minute discs. Nothing on the disc or case to indicate its capacity.

CDSpeed disc info....
Looks to be the same capacity as this disc:

550MB/63 Min

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=32

Nice to see quality media will possibly meet the longevity claims
Old Posted: 26-08-2006
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Ok here's one that I found,
Ritek Co. Cyanine T1 - Long Strategy Type
TDK 650mb 74min (97m31s01f)

Not sure what year 1998-99,
Still looking for that OG disc...
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The Kodak Infoguard CD-Rs that I have used are very stable as long as you use them for archiving and not for daily use. The reflective layer at the top of the disc is unprotected and very fragile - at least the ones I have used.

I don't think I have one quite as old as 13 years, however. Most of mine are from 1999.

I've had a few Kodak InfoGuard CD-R media go bad due to the reflective layer peeling off in flakes from scratches on the top, and a few more becoming unreadable because I didn't (at the time) know about the dangers of adding adhesive labels to CD/DVD media.
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13 years, lovely.

My oldest CD-R are about 10 and a half old and are KODAKs and PHILIPS'.

Do you remember the cd burner used on them??
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My oldest CD-Rs date back to 1996 or so. Kodaks, Traxdatas, Sonys, and even Riteks. New CD-Rs just don't cut it anymore, not even TYs.

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Quote:
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Do you remember the cd burner used on them??
I think it was a Yamaha, not sure what model although I remember it was SCSI and we had a nightmare getting it working
SCSI ISA cards, don't know how lucky we are with good old IDE.
It cost a fortune as well, around £1000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XND1n01h
Ok here's one that I found,
Ritek Co. Cyanine T1 - Long Strategy Type
TDK 650mb 74min (97m31s01f)

Not sure what year 1998-99,
Still looking for that OG disc...
Missed this...nice!
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Another golden oldie, a bit younger this time at 12 years, still not to bad a scan.
Not sure what type of disc, golden top, matt finish, unbranded 74min disc, made in USA, serial 4200 1031 2047. Shows its age, are any discs, cd or dvd, still made in the USA???
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Made in USA... The only companies making discs in the USA (I know) are MAM-A and Panasonic, but Panasonic afaik only makes DVD-RAM and BD?
So you're apparently having a Mitsui disc here.
Maybe you should try canned air? The C1 spike at 55 mins doesn't look very nice, does it?
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Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-
Old Posted: 29-08-2006
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Ehh at that time more manufacturing sites were there outside Asia. So jumping to the conclusion that it's Mitsui made is a bit to fast but it's not unlikely.
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TDK used to produce CD-Rs in the US. The ones I have are 6x branded ones (TDK Certified Plus 650MB). I got them from a friend who lived in the US (I got them in 1998).
On the back of the jewel case (the paper in the back) it says C 1997....
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the oldest cd-r's i still have are dated 1997 on the back (verbatim 2x 74min/650MB) but i only have 3 of these left and i probably bought these disc sometime in 1998 or so ... but my BEST cd-r's i have are "Mitsui 24x rated 80min/700MB" ones which i still have 90+ discs left those discs are nice since there coated with a plastic of some sort over the top of the disc so it provides a nice protective layer against damage vs standard cd-r's which dont have this.

i got those Mitsui discs from ebay back in around 2001-ish for 50 dollars .... i only use them for long term storage of my family pictures etc.... not for general use since there supposedly quality discs.

but it's cool to see some of u really old school guys on here from 1996 and older making cd's... ouch, those disc must have costed a arm and a leg at the time... cause at the time i got my first cd burner in 1998 cd's where just starting to become affordable although still fairly pricey at about 1 dollar a cd-r.... so in 1996 or older u guys had to be playing several dollars per cd-r which is way to much for my blood.
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NBR: Here in EMEA there's still Verbatim Super Azo + Crystal, with a top protective layer for scratch resistance.
I still have 50 of the Made in China discs left, as they give better results than the Made in India ones (this experience correlates with other users' experiences).
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Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-
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I found some more older CD-R's.

This one is a KingPro Professional 700mb up to 32x it's not that
old but I though the media code was interesting, never seen it before.

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : CD-R
Manufacturer: : Multi Media Masters && Machinary
MID : 97m28s26f
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X - 24 X - 32 X - 40 X - 48 X
Capacity: : 79:59.74
: 703 MB
Extended Information
Usage : General
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
ATIP
0000 - C0 00 B0 00 61 1C 1A 00 4F 3B 4A 00 00 00 80 00 - ....a...O;J.....
0010 - 00 80 00 00 00 80 80 00 - ........



Here is a Verbatim Valulife 650MB from 1999, it was really scratched up I am
surprised it scanned as well as it did. I have no idea what burner
I burned it on.

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : CD-R
Manufacturer: : Ricoh
MID : 97m27s66f
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X - 24 X - 32 X - 40 X
Capacity: : 74:12.00
: 652 MB
Extended Information
Usage : General
Disc Status : Open
Raw Data
ATIP
0000 - C0 00 80 00 61 1B 42 00 4A 0C 00 00 00 00 80 00 - ....a.B.J.......
0010 - 00 80 00 00 00 80 80 00 - ........
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You locked the C1 scale at 20 max even though the maximum C1 value reported is 49!
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MegaDETH: Please resize the scale.
I have seen a few MMM&M discs, one EMTEC "Extra Performance" 48x (unburned) is in my collection, given to me by a friend. Phthalocyanine.
MMM&M actually only makes plants, not discs, so this ATIP is as worthless (or informationless) as a Plasmon ATIP would be.
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For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me!
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