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Introduction: Backing up Blu-ray disks using BD Rebuilder. Current version 0.45.03 Beta (November 9, 2013)

Welcome to the revised guide for BD Rebuilder. The original guide found in these forums was made in June of 2010, but this program has grown in capabilities to such a degree that I felt a new version of the guide was necessary. BD Rebuilder was originally devised to compress large Blu-ray movies to fit onto 25gb blank discs, but it has become much more versatile, and can now accept many different types of video and it will output to AVCHD, DVD, MKV, and MP4 as well as Blu-ray video format.

The first thing you should be aware of is the fact that BD Rebuilder does not decrypt any type of media. You must decrypt commercial DVD or Blu-ray movies before importing them into this program.

The author of the program is jdobbs, a moderator at the doom9.org forums. He is also the author of DVD Rebuilder, a similar program that only works with DVD-Video.

1. You should download BD Rebuilder from this location: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716 The first post in that thread is updated periodically as new versions are released. There is quite a lot of pertinent information in that first post, so read through it carefully.

The program is still in beta, but don't let that put you off, as the author doesn't seem interested in releasing a "final" edition. Improved versions appear quite often. In order to help development of the program, jdobbs has chosen to limit the amount of time each version can be used. This greatly reduces bug reports from problems that have already been fixed. If your version of the program ever fails to start and tells you that it has expired, just go to this download page and get the newest version.

2. BD Rebuilder relies on several other free programs which must be installed as well. They are FFDSHOW, Matroska Splitter and AviSynth. You should install the versions of these programs that are available through the links at the BD Rebuilder site, as BD Rebuilder is set up to work only with these particular versions.

After installing FFDSHOW, run the Video Decoder Configuration for FFDSHOW from the START/Programs menu, click on Codecs, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled and uses libmpeg2. Look at the setting for H264/AVC also while you are there and make sure Libavcodec is selected as the decoder.

Jdobbs keeps on changing and improving the program, and now has it compatible with LAV filters. You should only use the LAV filters available at the BD Rebuilder page at Doom9. And if you use both FFDSHOW/Haali and the LAV filters, you should install FFDSHOW and Haali first.

3. If you are using Windows XP, you should download and install WMV11, which is included in Windows Media Player 11 for XP. The media player download is here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...1/default.aspx Once you have that installed, go into the FFDSHOW Video Decoder Configuration again, and set VC1 decoding in FFDSHOW to disabled, thus enabling the WMV11 codec.

If you are using Vista, Win7, Win 8 or 8.1, FFDSHOW Video Decoder Configuration should be set to WMV9 for VC1 decoding.

Once you've downloaded BD Rebuilder and installed the auxiliary programs, you need to unzip the download. The program does not install into your Programs list, it simply works in whichever folder you place it. Open the containing folder and you will see several files, including the BD Rebuilder executable file and another one called Inspect.exe. Double click on Inspect.exe and hit the button that says Inspect. This will look for any problems in your installation of the helper programs. (As of February 3, 2014, Jdobbs has stopped including the Inspect.exe in the package with BD Rebuilder. The same function can now be found in the Help section of BD Rebuilder. Click on Help-->Show Settings (Inspect) to check the installation of the auxiliary programs)

At this point, you should be ready to start using the program.

Windows 7 & Windows 8 Users: The first time (and only the first time) you run BD Rebuilder, you may have to Run As Administrator. This is necessary so BD Rebuilder can make codec preference changes in the Windows Registry.

Additional notes:

If you are working with commercial Blu Ray movies, I suggest either AnyDVD HD or DVDFab to decrypt them. One other good decryption program is MakeMKV, which can decrypt Blu-ray to MKV format or as files using the Backup mode. MakeMKV is free to use while in beta, and has been in beta for several years now.

BD Rebuilder can make use of a burning program called ImgBurn, which is highly recommended for burning both DVD and Blu-ray media. It is free to use and can be downloaded here: www.imgburn.com

When working with Blu-ray video, you should always rip the movie from the disc to the hard drive before trying to compress it with BD Rebuilder. It will save time and reduce wear on your Blu-ray drive. You should, if possible, use two separate physical hard drives (not just partitions on one drive). Use one hard drive as your source, the second as your target. Compressing high definition video is one of the most demanding chores you can do with a home computer. The speed of your CPU and the number of cores available in the CPU will drastically affect the time it takes for this process. The X264 video encoder used in BD Rebuilder can make use of multiple cores, but even with a modern system, you should expect hours of encoding time.

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Here is the main window of BD Rebuilder:

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You can see that I have imported a movie in the Source Path and I have designated an output folder in the Working Path. But I'm getting a little ahead of myself. Let's move on to basic settings in the program.

Part 1: Setting up the Program

Start the program and click on Settings-->Setup

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Clicking on Setup brings up this window:

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There is a great deal to discuss in this Setup window. We'll start with the Audio and Subtitle Languages to keep. You can select the specific languages you wish to keep with these controls, and you can limit the number of tracks to one apiece for each language.

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Video Encoding Options.

Resize - 1920 x 1080 to 1280 x 720
Reducing resolution to 720p might be helpful if you are trying to compress very large files, or when making MKV or MP4 files.

Resize - 1920 x 1080 to 1440 x 1080
This is a Blu-ray compatible resolution, but not very common.

Resize - 1280 x 720 to 1920 x 1080
Not generally recommended, but available.

Use Open GOP's for encoding
GOP stands for group of pictures, and is a basic structure in MPEG video. Open GOPs allow slightly better compression, but makes the video harder to cut and limits options on chapter placement. In general, this is an option that most don't need to concern themselves with when using BD Rebuilder, so leave it unchecked unless you have a specific need for open GOPs.

Convert SD to HD (720p)

Convert SD to HD (1080)

Conversion of standard definition video to high definition is also possible in these controls, and could be used on standard definition extras that are sometimes found in Blu-ray movies, but this offers very little benefit. Increasing resolution will not improve the quality of the video, and will probably degrade it noticeably.

Use DEINTERLACER on interlaced sources
I leave a check mark in this one, just in case I need it to kick in, but working with Blu-ray, this won't happen often. Interlaced VC-1 video may cause problems even with this selected.

Convert 4:3 to 16:9 (w/clipping)

Widen 4:3 viewing (w/minor clipping)

You should be aware that you will lose some of the picture when using these last two options, and the Widening option will stretch the picture.

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The next controls in the Setup Window that we will consider are the Audio Encoding Options. These are fairly straightforward.

Do Not Convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-ray only)

Do Not Reencode AC3 (Blu-ray only)
This will keep the original bitrate in your AC3 audio streams.

Use 448kbps for AC3 encoding
This is a considerably lower bitrate for AC3 audio than what is seen in Blu-ray normally, but is one way of making more space.

Use 192kbps, 2 channel for AC3
This is the lowest bitrate available in BD Rebuilder for audio, and will lose multichannel sound, but can be useful for portable devices.

Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternative Intact
HD audio takes up a considerable amount of room, so you must be careful of this setting.

General Encoding Options

Strict AVCHD for BD5/9 Movie only
The first general encoding option is to use strict AVCHD standards when making Blu-ray backups to single or double layer DVDs. I suggest putting a check mark in this box. AVCHD has some limitations on types of audio, so this will override other audio choices you may have made.

The Movie-Only playback loop
Checking this will cause the movie to play continuously, looping from the end back to the start.

Remove Work files after Rebuild

I would advise not using this, as you might lose a lot of encoding time if something goes wrong during the rebuild.

Remove Output folder after burn
I strongly advise NOT to use this. Only remove the output folder when you are certain you don't need it anymore, and do that manually. This automatic function should never be checked.

Use AVS filters during encoding
This is an option given for more advanced users who want to adjust the video with AviSynth filters. Not normally used, so leave it unchecked.

Keep only BDMV/Certificate folders
Some decryption techniques add a folder to the output. This removes those folders.

Use x264's internal LAVF for decoding
Self explanatory, but I have switched to using the newer option for DirectShowSource and the external LAV filters personally.


Use DGDecNV for decoding/frame serving
DGDecNV is a program that can use certain Nvidia GPUs to assist in decoding video. It doesn't come with BD Rebuilder, and you would have to pay a small fee to obtain it. So don't put a check mark here unless you have this program.

IVTC Sources with 3:2 pulldown
Inverse telecine is used to reconstruct film framerate. Not normally needed, but can be useful for sources other than Blu-ray.

Assume PAL for DVD output
If you live in a country that uses PAL standards for DVD-Video, put a check mark here.

Unblock Chapter Skip
This allows you to jump past trailers at the beginning of full backups.

Beep at Job Completion

Enable SBS 3-D Movie Only output
SBS (side by side) 3D

Use Nero AACenc for AAC encoding
Allows you to use this codec if you have it in your computer. Not necessary for AAC sound in your MKV or MP4 files, as there are other optional encoders included.

Use SupTitle for Alternate Forced Subs
This is an AviSynth subtitle plugin used with eac3to and Blu-ray sup files.

And finally, we come to the Custom Target Size. I've had it set at 23500MB for some time, but I use this program for backups to single layer Blu-ray primarily.

Once you've selected the options you want, click Save Changes and return to the main window.

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Part 2. Main Window Controls


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Looking at the main window in BD Rebuilder, you'll see a line that says Source Path, and a Browse button at the end of it. This is the primary way to bring your Blu-ray movie into the program

Underneath that is the Working Path. This is where BD Rebuilder puts files while it is working with them, and it is also the area where the final product will be placed. It is important to have a large amount of room in the Working Path folder, as the working files are often as large as the output itself.

At the top of the window you can see File, Mode, Settings and Help. Clicking on the File button you'll see a drop down list of options. Here is screenshot of those options:

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Most of these are not used when you are backing up a single movie, but they do add versatility to the program. Using these controls, you can bring in a movie, set it up as you like, then save it as a project, and open it at a later time to do the actual encode. It is also possible to set up batch encodes for unsupervised encoding of several movies.

Burning your current project to a disc with ImgBurn is also found in these controls.

But some of the most important options deal with Importing various types of files. This is where you can import DVDs, AVI, MKV or MP4 files into BD Rebuilder.

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The next control we will look at is Mode.

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The mode controls determine what type of output you will get. A Full backup will give you the entire movie, including menus and extras. Everything is compressed in a full backup, but it is also possible to select Quicker Encode for extras. This will allocate less bitrate for the extras in order to maximize video quality in the main movie.

The next choice is Quick Play. This option lets you bypass trailers and jump into the main movie when playing, but you can still have extras available through the menu controls of your player. You also have the ability to include or exclude certain extras with the Edit Quick Play Menu control.

The third choice of mode is Movie-Only Backup, and there are options within this category as well. If you are copying a Blu-ray disc that has both a Theatrical and Director's cut included on the disc, you can select which version you want in your backup by using the Other Movie-Only Playlist option. You'll get a small pop up window showing the playlists and you can choose the one you want.

Also under the Movie-Only Backup section is Alternative-Movie Only Output. This is where you can select an output as an MKV, MP4, AVCHD, or DVD-Video.

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The last set of controls available in the main window is Settings. They include Output Options, Encoder Settings, and Import/Quick Play Settings.

We'll start with the Output Options.

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Most of the Output Options deal with the size of video you will be making. You can compress to fit single or double layer DVDs, or single or double layer Blu-ray. There is also a custom size available, though if you wish to use that, you need to go into Settings-->Setup to enable it.

It is possible to also use ImgBurn to automatically burn to a disc using these controls, or have ImgBurn make an ISO image file.

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Encoder Settings are next.

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You can change the processing priority of BD Rebuilder here, though there is rarely a need for moving it off of the default Idle Priority. If you know for certain that you will not be using the computer for other tasks while encoding, you might put this on Normal Priority.

If you leave a check mark next to Automatic Quality, the program will determine what kind of encoding is done. I, personally, have never liked this option, as BD Rebuilder often times uses a very fast encode setting if left to its own devices. But it is available for those who don't like to tinker with settings.

If you take the check mark off of Automatic Quality, you'll see the list of options shown in my picture above. The speed options are self explanatory for the most part. The high speed option for 25gb Blu-ray is the fastest overall. By default, BD Rebuilder will do a two pass, variable bitrate encode using X264.

Putting a check mark next to CRF or ABR changes the way the X264 encoder works in a significant way. By putting a check mark on one of these, you are setting it to do a one pass encode, rather than a two pass encode. CRF (Constant Rate Factor) can produce high quality, but it is less accurate in output size compared to a two pass encode. For those who know X264 encoding the default setting for CRF in BD Rebuilder is 20.

ABR (Average Bitrate) is slightly more accurate than CRF in output size, but can be wasteful in bitrate allocation by comparison.

The last controls listed are the Import/Quick Play settings. When you click on this, you will see a pop up window showing the parameters determining how BD Rebuilder selects playlists. Default settings should be fine for most purposes.

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Part 3: Importing a Movie and doing a Full Backup

If you've managed to make it this far, congratulations. Jdobbs has added a LOT of controls into this program.

But now we are ready to do some work with the program. So let's start with a full backup of a movie.

First we go to the main window, look at the Source Path line and navigate to the Blu-ray movie folder on the hard drive. Designate a Working Path folder for output.

Click on Mode at the top of the window, select Full Backup. In the Output Options select Target Size 25BD, and in the encoder settings, I'll use High Quality with a one pass CRF encode. These are my normal settings, but you of course are free to use others, and even I change them depending on input. For extremely large movies, I might go to a two pass encode using the High Quality setting.

In the main window, you should see the various video, audio and subtitle streams that are available in the original movie. Many of these may have a red X mark next to them, as they are probably foreign language subtitles or audio, and not pre-selected to be saved. If you wish to keep them, simply double click them to remove the X.

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To start the encoding process, click on Backup.

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BD Rebuilder is the only free program I know of for backing up complete Blu-ray movies, including the menu, so using Full backup is a popular option. But I suspect most of us use the Movie Only setting more often.

There is very little difference between those options when setting up the program. You simply have to select Movie Only in the Mode controls. If you are uncertain whether or not BD Rebuilder has selected the correct playlist when importing the movie, you can right click on the video in the main window and Preview it.

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Part 4: Using Quick Start for compilations

Jdobbs continues to improve the program and releases new versions on a regular basis. In fact, he released a new one while I was making this new guide, so from this point forward, I will be using 0.45.04 when posting examples in this thread.

One of the new functions in BD Rebuilder is the Quick Start option. It adds the ability to make a menu and make compilations of DVDs or Blu-ray movies.

The first step when making a compilation movie in BD Rebuilder is to put all of the movies you will be copying into one folder on your hard drive. Keep each movie in its own subfolder within this larger compilation folder.

Next, change the Mode in BD Rebuilder to Quick Play Backup. Make sure you also set the output size you need.

To bring the movies into the program, click on File-->Import-->BD(s)-Quick Reauthored.

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Select the folder that contains all of the Blu-ray movies. Since this folder will have more than one movie, you will see a pop up window asking if you wish to import them.

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Click Yes. This gives you a second pop up window where you can edit the entries.

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Click on Save and Continue when you have finished editing the menu.

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Once BD Rebuilder has analyzed the movies and finished importing them, all you have to do at this point is hit Backup.

There are a few things to be aware of concerning the Quick Start movies. Some software players do not work with these movies very well. Arcsoft TMT 5 and TMT 6 will usually balk at playing them, and I've seen some issues in WinDVD 11 and PowerDVD 12. The newest release from Cyberlink, PowerDVD 13, has no problem playing them.

Standalone hardware Blu-ray players don't seem to have problems playing them back, at least, none that I've seen reported so far.

Another thing to be aware of is the fact that the menus made in BD Rebuilder are very simple. They are designed to have basic functionality rather than great aesthetics. But they will allow you to select different titles, and unlike other methods of making compilation Blu-ray or DVDs, the chapters work properly in these backups.

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Part 5: Hidden Options

I've spent a lot of time in this thread outlining the options and tools available within the program. There are quite a few more that can be used if you need them. Those adjustments are available through the INI file. Now to be clear, the vast majority of users don't need to access the INI file and add parameters to their encodes. But there are some interesting variations that can be added. If you are interested, I'd suggest reading the complete descriptions of the various releases of BD Rebuilder, and read more about the program at the doom9.org forums. You will also find a complete list of options in your BD Rebuilder folder, called HiddenOpts.txt.

To access your existing INI file, click on File-->View/Edit Config File. Do not mess with things in here unless you understand what each setting does.

There is one function that many might like, which is to "blank out" streams in a backup, similar to the way that VobBlanker worked in DVD-Video, removing unwanted extras without breaking menu functions.

This control can be accessed by adding these lines to your INI/configuration file:
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

These add an Edit mode and blanking within the main window of BD Rebuilder. If you want to blank an item, right click on it to get that option.

Once you enable editing and blanking, you'll notice there is yet another Mode available, called Movie & Menus (Auto-Blank Extras). This will give you the movie plus the menu, but the extras will be removed. You can of course preview each extra that is blanked out, and if you prefer to keep one or more, you can put them back into your copy by right clicking on them to "unblank" them, and remove the red X next to that item.

And of course, editing and blanking are only two of the dozens of controls found in the HiddenOpts.txt file.

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Part 6: Final notes

Though this program may seem daunting to a newcomer, once you have it set up, it really isn't difficult to use, and it has great versatility. So much so, I couldn't put all of its possible uses in one guide. For example, if I wanted to convert a Blu-ray movie to DVD-Video format, this program would be my first choice.

If you like the program, I suggest making a donation to jdobbs for his work. When you first start up a new edition of the program, you will be given this opportunity, though it isn't mandatory in order to access and use the program.

I hope you will like this revised guide. If you have questions, please feel free to start a thread in our Video Editing forum and we will do our best to answer them.

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Thanks for this I have used it a few times and once I got everything the way I and it wanted it works nicely and using Image Burn afterwords is pretty much automatic so everything works together and you don't have to worry about extra settings usually.
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That's a through guide which should simplify things considerably for new users. Nice job!
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Thanks for this Kerry. One question,
if you choose the Only Movie operation and the file output is larger than 25gigs, is there any way of keeping the original movie without BD-Rebuilder shrinkin' it?
I mean if the original movie only is 28gigs and I wanna keep it that way, can I do it that with BD-Rebuilder or it will shrink it down anyways?
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No, BD-Rebuilder is designed to compress the output. You might be able to set the custom size to 28gb and use that as the target, but I have never tried this.

It might be simpler to use ClownBD to select the parts you want to keep and output as Blu ray structure.

Edit: By the way, if the main movie size is already under the target size, no compression will be applied to the movie by BD Rebuilder. But that is the opposite of your situation seven8.

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Thank you very much Kerry. The reason I asked is that I want, if possible, to get the movie as is with all audio and specific subs so I can afterwards convert them to mkv files (uncompressed) and be able to play on my TV set from an external HD (doesn't playback m2ts files). I tried but with no luck up to now since I can't get the subtitles to be screened and sometimes the mkv is with no sound
I use tsmuxeR and mkvmerge for these jobs. I need a lot of reading and practice I guess. Take care!
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Thank you very much Kerry. The reason I asked is that I want, if possible, to get the movie as is with all audio and specific subs so I can afterwards convert them to mkv files (uncompressed) and be able to play on my TV set from an external HD (doesn't playback m2ts files). I tried but with no luck up to now since I can't get the subtitles to be screened and sometimes the mkv is with no sound
I use tsmuxeR and mkvmerge for these jobs. I need a lot of reading and practice I guess. Take care!
I realize I'm 14.5 months late, but for anyone else looking to do this. If you want to strip the disc ending up only with just the movie + audio + subs and no re-compression use Clown BD.
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For some strange reason a BDR exe file does not appear on the latest download. Had this working fine till a systems problem caused me to restore the operating system and reload BD Rebuilder. I get the not installed correctly message cited but as I cant see the exe file cannot run as administrator. Any suggestions?
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I have no issues with the latest version, which is 0.40.08 beta.

If you want to try an alternative download site, look here: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BD-Rebuilder

Click on the link that says Download from our site (direct link)
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Thanks Kerry, It turned out to be virus protection that came with my new operating system refresh. Turned it off and the exe files appeared. However, even though I stard BDR as an administrator and that it verifies that the windows settings have been fixed the application fails with the embedded message that the Windows 7 settins are incorrect. Any suggestions?
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Re: BD-Rebuilder guide

If the registry settings for BD Rebuilder are incorrect, the program will ask to correct this for you. You should say yes when it asks to do this.

If it is still failing after that, you have a big problem, one that is not normally seen. You'll probably need to speak to the author directly at the doom9 forum. They have a waiting period after joining the site which is very annoying when you want to ask a question.

Have you run the Inspect.exe tool to see if all the codec settings are correct?
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