Slipstreaming Windows XP Service Pack 1

Paparazzi · 22-02-2003

Some days back, I came accross a site that mentioned how I could Slipstream Windows XP Service Pack 1 and Create Bootable CD

Well, after reading that, I was wondering - would it be possible to slipstream and all and leave the whole thing on my hard disk and later use this hard disk to install XP on one of my new formatted hard disk? Will an installation of Windows XP require me to have a CD Rom and the WinXP CD?

Will appreciate a feed back... I don't trust the CD's anymore. Keeps getting those tiny little scratches and then keeps giving me errors

Thanks in advance.... though someone did mention earlier that its a cardinal sin on forums to thank prior to actually getting any sort of help

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xox · 22-02-2003

I don't see how that would be a problem. You can burn the image using virtual drive in nero or just copy all the files from the cd (that has been slipstreamed) to your hdd.

Donald_Duck · 22-02-2003

but you must find a way to boot the computer and install from the disk (if you don't have an OS installed) if it's a fat disk just use a win98 boot floppy but if it's a ntfs the xp boot disks are a real pain in the ass 'cause there are 6 of them that you have to insert and wait for the data to be read it takes forever. and I'm not sure if they are any good to run the installer anyone tried?

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I'm not so sure that the installer will run with 98 boot disk since it's dos havn't tried but at least Longhorn alpha woldn't install from dos
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*slayerking* · 23-02-2003

i've tried installing xp from dos its no go. you need to run it from an image hence the bootable cd.

if you want to try you could copy cd on your drive then slipstream it, use isobuster to get the boot image from the xp cd and put it on the drive as well then set your bios to boot from that hdd then it should load from the cd boot image i've not tried this but i think it should work.

p.s. the boot image on the cd is called :Microsoft corporation.img

p.p.s i will try myself now and let you know what happens

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*slayerking* · 23-02-2003

ok i tried but no go maybe if you put the Microsoft corporation.img file on a floppy or something it may work. just tinker around with it there has to be a way to get it to work as my d: drive icon has now turned into an xp cd icon

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Paparazzi · 23-02-2003

Hey, thanks for all the so very informative replies - atleast they are really informative for me! I never thought of the boot up stuff and all that. Honestly, what I thought was that it would be as simple as putting them on the hdd and then, run setup and say a few magic words like next, next, and I'm through

Atleast glad I've got some info now. Got a 4 day weekend coming up and if the US of A does not target our neighbours, Iraq, and they in turn do not put all those gas stuff here in Kuwait where I earn my bread and .... well, butter, I'll try them all out this weekend

!

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xox · 23-02-2003

There are boot disks that recognises ntfs partition (such as my Partition Magic boot disk). I also have others - never tried them before to see if they can read ntfs partition, but am pretty sure they can.

I can e-mail you the file (it's about the size of a floppy) if you're still unsuccesfull with other attempts.

One question though, why don't you make copies of your installation cds instead? Well-burned cds should not give you errors. It could be your cd-rom drive having problem reading it...

Paparazzi · 23-02-2003

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Originally posted by xox
One question though, why don't you make copies of your installation cds instead? Well-burned cds should not give you errors. It could be your cd-rom drive having problem reading it...

search me too

I've made about 7 copies and guess what.... all 7 of them ended up being useless.
Problem always arises at the point where the XP Cd tries to copy the shell32.dll file. GOes to that point and then says its unable to extract or copy the shell32.dll. Sounds crazy cause when I use the original CD, there is absolutely no problem. I then have to go through a process where in I Ignore that file and continue, then switch of the PC, boot through DOS, copy the shell32.dll file from another PC into the system folder and then restart the PC again

I use the original CD and there is no trace of any kind of problem. Wonder what? and wonder why all 7 copies ended up giving me the same kind of problem???

Oh! and by the way, I did make all 7 copies from the original and not a copy of the copy

//edit// forgot to add.... I've tried on 3 different machines with 3 different writers //edit//

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xox · 23-02-2003

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
search me too I've made about 7 copies and guess what.... all 7 of them ended up being useless.
Problem always arises at the point where the XP Cd tries to copy the shell32.dll file. GOes to that point and then says its unable to extract or copy the shell32.dll. Sounds crazy cause when I use the original CD, there is absolutely no problem. I then have to go through a process where in I Ignore that file and continue, then switch of the PC, boot through DOS, copy the shell32.dll file from another PC into the system folder and then restart the PC again I use the original CD and there is no trace of any kind of problem. Wonder what? and wonder why all 7 copies ended up giving me the same kind of problem???

Oh! and by the way, I did make all 7 copies from the original and not a copy of the copy

//edit// forgot to add.... I've tried on 3 different machines with 3 different writers //edit//

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Sounds like you're using FAT partition on your xp. In that case, you wouldn't have problem even using Win98 bootdisk.

Regarding your discs - that is one strange problem indeed. It could be the media problem although producing the exact same error everytime is kinda odd. Did you try different media too? Did you try burning them at lower speed? Did this problem occur with slipstreamed cds or normal Winxp copies?

Paparazzi · 23-02-2003

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Originally posted by xox

Sounds like you're using FAT partition on your xp. In that case, you wouldn't have problem even using Win98 bootdisk.

Did you try different media too? Did you try burning them at lower speed? Did this problem occur with slipstreamed cds or normal Winxp copies?

Yes, Indeed... am using Fat partition... why?

are the ntfs partitions better? Honestly, I don't know... since I used to use win98se, I thought I was suppossed to use FAT when I upgraded. If NTFS is better, I'll use that in future. BTW, I use the XP pro I've been talking about at home.

Regarding the media I'm using .... yes, it was always the same media ....CD-R 80 high density from Samsung 16X Multi speed - Thats what is written on the disc. On all my attempts, I've been trying to duplicate the original WinXP CD. Will be trying the slipstream version this tuesday when my weekend starts.

Cheerios

xox · 23-02-2003

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
Yes, Indeed... am using Fat partition... why? are the ntfs partitions better? Honestly, I don't know... since I used to use win98se, I thought I was suppossed to use FAT when I upgraded. If NTFS is better, I'll use that in future. BTW, I use the XP pro I've been talking about at home.

Regarding the media I'm using .... yes, it was always the same media ....CD-R 80 high density from Samsung 16X Multi speed - Thats what is written on the disc. On all my attempts, I've been trying to duplicate the original WinXP CD. Will be trying the slipstream version this tuesday when my weekend starts.

Cheerios

FAT32/NTFS has its own advantages and disadvantages, depending on your usage environment. Start here.

I don't have information about the cd media you're using, but like I said before, it could be the media problem since you have tried many different readers and writers.

Your solution for now is simple: Slipstream the cd, copy the files to your hdd, boot using your normal boot disk, browse to the installation folder and off you go. You can just treat it like normal win98 installation from your hdd.

AnOrO · 23-02-2003

I didn't know you could Slipstream Windows XP Service Pack 1 and Create a Bootable CD.

Nice. I’m going to try it.

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xox · 23-02-2003

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Originally posted by AnOrO
I didn't know you could Slipstream Windows XP Service Pack 1 and Create a Bootable CD.

Nice. I’m going to try it.

You can slipstream office service packs too if you want

AnOrO · 23-02-2003

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Originally posted by xox

You can slipstream office service packs too if you want

I’m going to try that too. Thanks.

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panos · 23-02-2003

I have made a winxp cd with sp1 intergrated since i got sp1. It is very usefull if you format every month as i am

.

I don' t really think it is so usefull the tranfer on the HD as the copy of the files is not that much time in the installation, most of it is configuration...

My dvd is ata100 and the copying is really fast and the installation on my pc keeps less than 30 min.

What i keep in the second partition is all the other programs i install and that is very faster that changing cds...

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The only problem is that with the new sp1wincd you will be missing a old video codec which is use for entry videos in games (e.x. commandos II). The sp1 removes it from the new cd. (blame MS) But is not that important unless you have many older games how needs it for there videos (they will still play anyway).

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Donald_Duck · 23-02-2003

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Your solution for now is simple: Slipstream the cd, copy the files to your hdd, boot using your normal boot disk, browse to the installation folder and off you go. You can just treat it like normal win98 installation from your hdd.

98 boot disk boots into dos

Posted by slayerking

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i've tried installing xp from dos its no go.

So even if you can read the partition you can't run the setup.

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*slayerking* · 23-02-2003

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originally posted by Donald_Duck
So even if you can read the partition you can't run the setup.

didn't work for me message was somethin like, this setup can not be run from dos. so i just booted with cd wasn't going to waste time stuffing around. but i think there is another file in the i386 folder you can run from dos to install it. can't remember the name

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*ckin2001* · 23-02-2003

i386/winnt.exe sound right to you?

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*slayerking* · 24-02-2003

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i386/winnt.exe sound right to you?

yep!

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Donald_Duck · 24-02-2003

Ok then problem solved

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