Old 27-05-2002   #1
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Ripping cd->mp3 192kbps or 320 kbps!

I have Musicmatch Jukebox v7.10.1070
can i ripping cd->mp3 192kbps or 320kbps
OS Win XP Pr.Ed.
plz help !!!!!!!!!!!
thnx

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Old 27-05-2002   #2
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Ummmm... Yes?
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if you can hear the difference , go for 320
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Old 28-05-2002   #4
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Go for EAC and Lame. The default setting will produce mp3's at such a good quality that you won't hear the difference between the cd and the mp3.

The average bitrate is often between 192-220kbits.
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If you want the best quality possible: go for 320KBs. If you want cd-quality, use at least 160KBs.

Beware: there is more than just the bitrate. The most important thing is the used encoder. The encoder decides which data to leave out and what to leave in, based on a model of the human listening capabilities. The Lame encoder is very good this, from what I have understand it uses a better model than the Fraunhoeffer mp3 encoder.
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Prefer EAC with LAME encoder myself.
I always use Variable Bit Rate (VBR) encoding at highest quality level (peaks at 320 and has an average of 192)
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I gave up using Music Match Jukebox. It loses a second or two off the start of tracks, and sometimes clips the end as well.

I also found its normalising feature sometimes introduces a momentary loud bit at the start of tracks.

I got the recent 7.2beta for testing, and it still has these faults.

EAC rules - OK
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If you want the best quality possible: go for 320KBs. If you want cd-quality, use at least 160KBs.
Tests conducted by Fraughnhoffer (horribly misspelled) shown that by using the Fraughnhoffer codec showed that MP3 192 KBs is indiscernable from CD, even to goldenears. I would estimate that with lame, this is around 160 KBs.
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This is true to some extent, but it varies with the type of music. I listen to rock/metal, which is a type of music that need a high bitrate to sound good.
That is why I use the -r3mix setting in Lame, this is a VBR command line that allows Lame to use whatever bitrate proper for the music in question. Average is around 170-180 Kbps, but on metal it can easily get up to 230 Kbps.
I prefer a good sounding file over a smaller one, but if you own a portable player you may have different views, of course.
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The encoder decides which data to leave out and what to leave in, based on a model of the human listening capabilities.
Besides this, the type of music (like Trondos mentions) which needs to be encoded is also important.
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For VBR, try LAME --alt-preset extreme (averages 220-270kbps) or --alt-preset standard (180-220kbps).

If you want to go the CBR route, use --alt-preset insane for 320kbps.

the alt-presets use code-level tweaking that cannot be obtained from the other command-line options...

...check out the complete list of recommended settings at hydrogenaudio.org...
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EAC - LAME - 320kbps - VBR = excellent quality
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EAC LAME

EAC with LAME
VBR 192 JS (or was i able to make it stereo)
High quality (-q 0) Peak level is 320
-c (copyrighted) with -highpass and -lowpass filters
(i just cant remember the frequencies)
i refrain from using --alt-preset tho i'd suggest you do and for heaven's sake, not musicmatch

i also decode with lame



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Well... I'll tell you once more:

ExactAudioCopy in combination with the Lame encoder!
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EAC and lame do nice work but I go 4 Nero and MP3Pro at 96 Kbit
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Mp3Pro

i dont like mp3 pro. i think my ears pick up the degradation in quality. i really dont think music enthusiasts will like it. only people who dont care about quality.
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EAC is free.
Lame is free.
Nero is not free.
Mp3encoder can easily be cracked.
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mind you i was not advocating cracking the encoder but just that thats what most of us must have done regardless what is typed on the forum
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Cd Quality is 192kbps. if you really have an ear for the difference between it and 320 then go for 320 but a 4 minute 192kbps song is about 5mb and the same 4 minute song at 320kbps is over 10 mb so basically 320kbps is a waste of space.
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cd quality isnt always 192 , it depends on the sample being encoded. the more thats 'going on' in the music, the more samples must be taken in order to make it sound like the original. i'd suggest using lame with 192 vbr for best results
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i'd suggest using lame with 192 vbr for best results
I agree totally
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i agree too. but anyway, i think the quest for perfection is a never ending one.
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Prefer EAC with LAME encoder myself.
I always use Variable Bit Rate (VBR) encoding at highest quality level (peaks at 320 and has an average of 192)
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Re: Ripping cd->mp3 192kbps or 320 kbps!

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VRB is strictly for Non-Fidelity listeners
Nonsense!

VBR is used for the default "transparent" presets in LAME, and is indistinguishable from the uncompressed source by a majority of listeners in ABX tests for a lot of test tracks.

Do you have any facts to back up your ridiculous claim?

BTW this thread has been dead for 8 years.
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