Old 08-10-2002   #1
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mp3 cd burning without pauses??

hey all, how would i go about burning an mp3cd to play in a mp3 compatible cd player without pauses inbetween tracks? im using nero burning rom by the way...i'm just trying to achieve the same effect as setting the gap between tracks at 0 sec. when u burn an regular audio cd. thanks for the replies..
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Old 08-10-2002   #2
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From Feurio:
"This is caused by the MP3-format:
The mp3-format is a kind of compression with some loss of data, i.e. not the whole samples are stored, but - expressed in a simple way - some kind of "frequency curves", i.e. the mp3-encoder analyses a certain range of data and then stores the "frequency curves" for this range.
If now e.g. a live recording is stored in parts - one part in the first file, the following part in the second file - and compressed to the mp3-format, the encoding process is resetted for the second file - so the frequence curves (the end of the first file and the beginning of the second) don't match exactly.
In addition most mp3-files are "frame orientated", i.e. the encoder sometimes adds empty samples to the end of a file to get a whole frame at the end.

To put it together: Unfortunately it is not possible to always reconstruct the original data 100%-ly out of two mp3-files, that contain parts of continuous data.
If you want to work with continouos data, you must save all tracks into ONE mp3-file or use the wave-format."


So, the silences are "inside" the MP3 file. You can't avoid them with only setting pauses to zero. You need to edit the files.
The easiest way for me is using Feurio Track Editor. Simply select the position of the end (with the help of zoom) and press "Set end position". (The project settings must be configured to "Do not insert pauses between tracks - round track markers")
This editor is non-destructive, so the original files are not modified.

Of course, the result can't be perfect because of the MP3 format as explained before, but it sounds very well (no audible problem usually).

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Old 08-10-2002   #3
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True minix, but i think whatever you do there will always be a pause between tracks , its just the way the portable mp3 players work - there is a pause while it loads the next track. Same thing as you get in older versions of winamp.
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Old 08-10-2002   #4
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True JoeSoap, maybe there are some players that work without pause, but that could be the cause probably.

PS: And rereading the question, I see that he was asking about MP3 in data CDs. My answer was basically for audio CDs.

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