Looking for an affordable 24-26 inch lcd screen

daan_odi_

Hi,
I had the plan to buy a 2nd lcd screen so I can put it in some other room (e.g. the attic). This way I'd to watch a movie while others are watching a tv show for example.

Now, I'd like to spend some money on it but not too much. Let's say 200 euros max. ($290). First condition is that it supports fill hd. Secondly, it should be in the 24"-26" range. I don't sit too far away, like in the living room.

I'm not sure if it should be a monitor or a tv. I think a monitor is best. For the rest, I don't have specific conditions. I hope there is a good enough monitor for this price. Hoping for some advice/suggestions. Thanks!

Daan

Hemispasm

I have bought this 26inch FS monitor from a local store in Sweden about 3-4 months ago, for app 350E. For its price I am very pleased, I am using it for mainly office work and internet, and watching movies sometimes. It supports full HD, but doesnt have an HDMI input IIRC.

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daan_odi_

Looks good. Unfortunately I need HDMI (I forgot to say that).

Hemispasm

Well actually the link I provided says it does have one. But I can verify that when I go home

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daan_odi_

Yes, you're right. Unfortunately it's a bit above my budget. Mainly, because it seems to be sold in the UK only. Products sold in the UK are for me far more expensive than products sold in the US.

platinumsword

Do you want a T.V. or a Monitor?

Do you want a built-in tuner?


Here is a list of 24 to 26 inch monitors, all you have to do is find the price.

Link: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com...ors_List_24%22

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daan_odi_

Thanks for the link.
I only want to use it to watch HD movies from a media player. I don't need tv. Probably a monitor will be best for this.

daan_odi_

Mmm... My main doubt is whether I should take 24 or 26 inch... They seem to differ $100 in price. Would 24 inch be big enough for hd movies?

platinumsword

I really guess that depends on how far you want to sit from it.

I have no issues with watching HD content on my 21.5" monitor.


Viewing Distances Based on Visual Acuity


For 24"

Maximum Viewing Distance for HDTV(Fully resolved 1080i; 1920 x 1080) is 3.6Ft

Maximum Viewing Distance for NTSC/PAL(720x480/720x576) is 9.6Ft


For 26"

Maximum Viewing Distance for HDTV(Fully resolved 1080i; 1920 x 1080) is 3.9Ft

Maximum Viewing Distance for NTSC/PAL(720x480/720x576) is 10.4Ft

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daan_odi_

Thanks for the info! Very interesting. I've a also made some calculations:

24 inch:

Length: 53.13cm
Height: 29.88cm

26 inch:

Length: 57.5cm
Height: 32cm

Calculations 24 inch:

V(16^2 + 9^2) = 18.35756
60.96/18.35756 = 3.3207

Length: 16x3.3207 = 53.13cm
Height: 9x3.3207 = 29.88cm

Calculations 26 inch:

V(16^2 + 9^2) = 18.35756
66.04/18.35756 = 3.5974

Length: 16x3.5974 = 57.56cm
Height: 9x3.5874 = 32.38cm

This should be the real dimensions of the lcd screen, so minus the borders. Is this correct?

daan_odi_

Would the Asus VW246H be a good option?

platinumsword

In view of its relatively inexpensive price, this monitor has great features for the money.For example, when it comes to viewable screen size, the average price of flat panel monitors with comparable viewable size is considerably more?in fact around $525.

The 2 ms response time of this screen makes it ideal for fast-moving games and for watching movies.

From the reviews the only slight weakness is the black level is a little weak and grey but certainly not a deal breaker.

I would say yes, for the money that you want to spend.

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Seán

Just out of curiosity, what media player do you have?

The reason I ask is that there are a few picky media players that will not work with DVI or HDMI port of most PC monitors. I recently reviewed a Conceptronic Meida Giant Pro media player which does not support the EDID info supplied by most PC monitors whether connected by HDMI or DVI. For example, when I hooked it to my BenQ FP241W monitor's HDMI port, it would only operate in 480P, despite the monitor supporting up to 1080P including HDCP support. However, when I hooked up to the HDMI port of an LCD TV, it let me choose other resolutions.

daan_odi_

The Xtreamer.

Edit: I just searched on the xtreamer for monitor problems and I found nothing related to resolution issues. I did find something about a purple interface but that is definitely not related to the display

Seán

From what I can tell looking around, yours will work fine with a PC monitor. If the resolution of the PC monitor is under 1920x1080, the maximum it will likely accept from the Xtreamer is 1280x720 (720p) unless the monitor supports 1920 x 1080 interlaced or progressive (1080i or 1080p) via HDMI. As far as I'm aware of, all HD Ready LCD TVs accept 1080i via HDMI.

As far as I can tell, most 24" & 26" LCD monitors are 1920x1200, so 1080p input shouldn't be an issue.

daan_odi_

Nope, it supports full HD

Just to be sure, I assume most monitors support HDMI 1.3 right?

Seán

Only some monitors support HDMI 1.3, however it should work fine on monitors using an earlier HDMI revision as it is backwards compatible.

For example, my HDX 1000 media player features HDMI 1.3, but it works fine on my BenQ FP241W which uses HDMI 1.1.

daan_odi_

Doesn't the video/audio quality suffer because of this?

Seán

HDMI 1.3 adds support for "Deep Colour", which is between 10-bit and 16-bit per RGB channel, compared to 8-bit per channel for HDMI 1.1. I'm sure most people will unlikely notice the difference. As far as I'm aware of, even JPEG is limited to 8-bit per channel (no more than the HDMI 1.1 specification), yet just about all consumers apart from pro photographers are happy with the JPEGs their cameras produce. On a 24"/26" monitor, you'll probably not notice the difference between the two, even with HDMI 1.1 and HDMI 1.3 monitors side by side (assuming everything else between the displays is equal.)

For audio, HDMI 1.3 adds support for lossless audio formats. You'll get far better audio from any decent pair of speakers than a HDMI 1.3 compliant monitor with built-in speakers.

daan_odi_

I don't have A/V Receiver which supports digital sound. In other words, I just use analog audio. I guess is this case there won't be a big difference right?

Also, the Xtreamer has an optical sound output so you could always use that when you have such an amplifier.

platinumsword

That's correct.

Yes, but with optical output you will only be able to have up to 5.1 output. If that's all you care about down the road then you should be able to pickup a Amp with optical and 5.1 support rather cheap.

If you care about the higher end audio formats then it will cost more. You will need a second HDMI cable and the Amp in question must support HDMI repeater, not HDMI Pass-through.


HDMI Passthrough/Switching

No repeated handshakes of the HDCP codes. Will only allow video to pass through and requires a separate audio connection.

HDMI Repeater

Repeats the the handshakes of the HDCP codes and allows both video and audio to pass through.

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daan_odi_

Could you elaborate on this part? I don't fully understand it..

Hemispasm

I know I am getting a bit off topic here and sorry for that but I can't really understand where we are getting with this ongoing increase of audio channels, I mean I can understand 5 or maybe 6, but after that it is just getting ridiculous..

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platinumsword

@ daan_odi_


Pretty much all Amp's on the market today have HDMI ports and the version of HDMI supported is usually Ver-1.3a. But there is a difference in how they function.

We will use $500.00 as a rough figure to work with.

If you where to do research on a specific Amp that is priced under $500.00, you can usually fined somewhere that the HDMI supports HDMI Passthrough.

If you where to do research on a specific Amp that is priced over $500.00, you can usually fined somewhere that the HDMI supports a HDMI Repeater.

(See below for examples)


Passthrough only allows video from the original source to travel through the Amp to the output. This will require you to use other means to get the audio, hence optical or coaxial options. The drawback to this is that you have bandwidth limitations resulting in no support for HD audio formats.


Repeater allows both video and audio from the original source to be repeated as is through the Amp to the output. There is no drawback to this, and no bandwidth limitations. All options are available to you if the Amp supports it.


@ Hemispasm

Since we do not know where daan_odi_ wants to take this we are only speaking in hypothetical terms for future audio considerations.

What we know.

1. The Xtreamer

HDMI Ver 1.3a
Optical Out
Stereo RCA terminal - L/R
Composite terminal - Video out

Supports DTS, Dolby Digital, DTS-HD MA, DTS-HD HR, Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus

2. Does not have A/V Receiver which supports digital sound

3. Possible monitor Asus VW246H

As it stands here he will have a nice picture with analog sound.

Optical or Coaxial have bandwidth limitations, so they will only support DTS, Dolby Digital audio formats.

HDMI will support DTS, Dolby Digital, DTS-HD MA, DTS-HD HR, Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus etc.


Now there are several different combination's he could do if he wants. Just depends on what he expects and expense involved.

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daan_odi_

Yes, I know I'm getting a bit off topic. I just wanted to take this opportunity to learn about the possibilities there with the media player and the set-up I have. Thank you very much 'platinumsword' for informing me about this
I'll take this with me me in future considerations. But my budget if fairly limited. I would not only need an amp but also 5 speakers (I only have stereo now). An amp HDMI Repeater would not be for me though. I like the progression audio systems have made of the years, but that would be just too much good. I'll in that case 'suffice' with DTS.

As for now, I'm definitely on the verge of buying the Asus VW246H, so if anyone has a good alternative, I'd like to know. Thanks