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BD movies are over €30 here, and a BD disc is available from €10...........
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£13 for a BDR25GB2X and the same for a Blue-ray movie.
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ok , the guide looks ok,

but is a copied blu ray movie that is burnt on a black bluray disc

the same quality as the original? when i play it on my ps3
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ok , the guide looks ok,

but is a copied blu ray movie that is burnt on a black bluray disc

the same quality as the original? when i play it on my ps3
Yes if you burn it to a blank BD disc it will be the same video quality since it does not compress anything.
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good guide, but the blank disc costs more than movies here. Time to time blu-ray movies go on sale for less than $15. Buy 2 if is that price, save time, save money, and no wear and tear on your computer since using the 2nd one as a backup. By the time the blank media become cheap and drives are cheap, then we will prolly see newer software like blu-ray decrypter with automatic key code finder etc...
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good guide, but the blank disc costs more than movies here. Time to time blu-ray movies go on sale for less than $15. Buy 2 if is that price, save time, save money, and no wear and tear on your computer since using the 2nd one as a backup.
Can't argue with that. Even at early stage, a blu-ray movie cost $29.99 and a blank media was $25. This guide is using the first utility that was released almost a year ago, BackupBluray, that breaks the protection. Nowdays you can use other free utility such as DVDFabHD or not free AnyDVD HD. In anycase it's good if you want to rip those HiDef movies to your 1TB harddrive for archive or easy access.
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Some people get these drives and media free.
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I see you've mentioned it also a while back, rolling56. I believe nothing is free, those people work for it.
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I attempted following the instructions given for recording the BDMV folder to a BD-R yesterday for play back in a stand-alone Blu-ray disc player. I am using Nero 8. When I go and try to put the BDMV folder in nero 8 (I even tried ImgBurn) it will not accept the folder. I followed the instructions on putting the image on my hard drive. What am I doing wrong? Can some one type a brief step-by-step on how to follow this process using Nero? Thank you.
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I haven't tried with Nero 8 yet, but in ImgBurn, did you select Mode > Build and drag the folders to ImgBurn window?
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Yes I attempted exactly that. When I attempt to drag the newly created "BDMV" file from the hard drive it first tells me on the right side of the imgburn window that the files are "unknown". Then I click on calculate and an error message is returned stating the following.

Cannot add file to image1

Name: C:\Desktop\BDMV\STREAM\00024.m2ts
Size: 8,150,507,520 bytes

ISO9660 Limit: 4,294,967,295 bytes

Reason: File size exceeds the limit imposed by the ISO9660 file system.


What do you make of that? Am I using an previous version of ImgBurn perhaps? If so, which version do I require.? Thanks.
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Ok, good that you detailed the error message, ISSO9660 has a limit so you need to change the file system to UDF. Here is the fix:

While in Build mode, on the right window, click the Option tab. In the File System, choose UDF from the dropdown selection.

Let us know how it goes.
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Once I switched the program to UDF everything loaded just fine in ImgBurn. The program copied the image rather quickly to a BD-R(I acquired one of these discs at no charge). It took only 54 minutes to copy almost 24 GB to the BD-R disc. When I attempted to play the disc in my LG super blu(blu-ray, hd dvd combo) stand-alone, it gave me disc error. In an attempt to rescue the disc from being a coaster....is this disc not playing because ImgBurn does not finalize it properly for play in a stand-alone. If so...how do you finalize this type of disc. I have seen this error given in regular dvd players because discs were not finalized properly. Otherwise, I followed the instructions posted above explicitly and it isn't working the way I need it to work. Let me know. As added information.....I have noticed that when I put the BD-R in the BD-R unit on the computer and click on the appropriate drive, I get the BDMV folder showing up. Within this folder are the following folders: BACKUP, CLIPINF, PLAYLIST, SREAM. Right beneath these are:
index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv. This may provide a clue to anyone who knows more about why it is not working.
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The suspect seems to be your player here.
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Which model player(stand-alone) do you use? I don't understand how it would make a difference? The LG super blu is the best player out there right now(mainly for it's ability to play both HD DVD and Blu Ray discs). If the image that is copied to the blank BD-R disc is exactly the same as it is on the original BD-R disc(which plays perfectly by the way), then why is the copied image giving an error on the created disc? Thank you.
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Which model player(stand-alone) do you use? I don't understand how it would make a difference? The LG super blu is the best player out there right now(mainly for it's ability to play both HD DVD and Blu Ray discs). If the image that is copied to the blank BD-R disc is exactly the same as it is on the original BD-R disc(which plays perfectly by the way), then why is the copied image giving an error on the created disc? Thank you.
This combo supports HD-DVD only rudimentary, therefore it hasn't the REAL HD-DVD logo..............
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We are talking about blu-ray here and this player was made initially as a blu-ray disc player with the hd dvd capability added on. That doesn't explain why it won't play a Blu-Ray disc with a Blu-Ray image on it.
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New BD features were already added and the specs updated, so even such a player will be outdated easily. I wanna just mention BD+ and spec 1.1.
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I hope you don't get me wrong here, I don't mean to be a pain. The blu-ray disc that I have is Planet Earth. I attempted putting the first of the four discs on to my hard drive using the method which is so well illustrated in this post. I believe the kids call it "ripping". I needed to make a back-up copy because my children are also using the disc. In other words, I give them the copy and preserve the original. Therefore, once the disc has been "ripped" successfully to the hard drive, and the BD drive then successfully "burns" it to the blank disc, what difference does it make if it is a BD+ 1.1 or otherwise. If what your are saying is the case, then the original disc would NOT play in my stand alone player either. If everything I mentioned was successful why does the copy not play? What is NOT being copied over in the original transfer? I understand that if the companies are using different technology then it will stop the ripping engines from copying the image to your hard drive in the first place, or not allow you to copy it to a disc. This never happened in my case. Thank you.
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vanejorg, I had the problem once when my PS3 can not read my BD-R backup while my burner in PC can (of course because PowerDVD/Nero Showtime can access m2ts directly). Two things came up in my mind, ie the blu-ray structure and missing protection. Some player if they don't see the AACS protection they will refuse to play. Let me check my backup and come back to you as soon as I able.
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Why not try playing your back-up in your stand alone Panasonic? Either the BD-R plays in every stand alone or it doesn't. Otherwise, something is missing in the transfer, which makes the transfer technique discussed above flawed. I don't believe anyone is looking to back up their purchased Blu Ray disc for the purpose of playing it on their computer. People who purchase Blu Ray discs have Blu Ray players. Even if they don't(which doesn't make sense to me....watching movies on your computer...yuk)they back them up to protect the expensive original copy, and play the cheaper back up. If you cannot play back copied movies on your stand alone it defeats the purpose of this post entirely....at least I think so. Thank you.
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The Panasonic in my sig is not a standalone, it's a burner.

Before I got the PS3, I played blu-ray and hd dvd movies from my PC acting as HTPC (home theater pc) on the plasma. I ran a 35feet DVI to HDMI cable from the HTPC to the plasma in the other room. For the sound I feed it with optical cable to the AV Receiver and 8.1 Polk Audio. I've seen lots of people use HTPC, one good reason is that you can store your movies in your terrabyte harddrives and playback easily.
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Nonetheless, I am looking for a method where I can "rip" the original BD to the hard drive and then copy it to a blank BD-R, for play in a stand alone player. Does anyone know what programs will do that? Thank you.
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Nonetheless, I am looking for a method where I can "rip" the original BD to the hard drive and then copy it to a blank BD-R, for play in a stand alone player. Does anyone know what programs will do that? Thank you.
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vanejorg, I finally found the problem. The backup that didn't work was burned with ImgBurn. I tried with Nero Burning ROM v8 (set to UDF2.50) and it works on my PS3. I haven't tried newer ImgBurn since. Please give Nero 8 a try and let us know. I hope you have a spare BD-RE for testing.

I will update the first post.
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