Old 19-03-2005   #1
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What´s the best "free" HDD bad sector repair tool.

My four years old IBM 40GB HDD (IC35L040AVER07) got corrupted. Suddenly I'm not able to load windoze anymore.

When I run drive fitnes test (IBM/Hitachi DFTv4.02) it tells me there are some bad sectors and that I should run sector repair tool. When I do so, the doze windows just freezes after a few minutes.
Also tried Winterna*ls disc commander to no avail.

I have done search and found some posts about HDD regenerator, but this is useless because I can't enter windoze anymore.

Suggestions please.
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You should find what you want on the HDD manufacturers web site, they have utilities that all run from floppy. You may have to low level format, in which case you will loose everything on your HDD.
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You should find what you want on the HDD manufacturers web site, they have utilities that all run from floppy. You may have to low level format, in which case you will loose everything on your HDD.
Done that already...
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When I run drive fitnes test (IBM/Hitachi DFTv4.02)...
I don´t mind to "loose everything". This drive only holds OS, nothing else.
I have already tried to erase whole disc (with DFT, Killdisk, aso), but it's nogo.
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Re: What´s the best "free" HDD bad sector repair tool.

The low level format facility (and it was this Iwas talking about not repair, sorry I should have been clearer) should be part of the utility software, if not take a look on the site and search for it. It is different from third party stuff as it is designed for the hard drives made by that manufacturer, for example I use maxtor and theirs is Power Max which is t4esting and low level format software in one, and is also designed to work on those drives with bad sectors.

Saying all that if there are quite a few I personally would dump and buy a new one as it is getting near the end of its' life.

Other than that I am stumped.
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Re: What´s the best "free" HDD bad sector repair tool.

The old IBM "DeathStar" drives.
Those drives had an amazingly high failure rate, especially the 60 and 80 GB models.
Just last month I have to ditch that exact same 40 GB model on a computer I was servicing for a client.

I am not aware of any free tools to repair bad sectors but I can personally attest to the effectiveness of Dmitriy Primochenko's HDD Regenerator as I have used it successfully on several occasions.
The trial version is fully functional except it will only repair the first bad sector. It will not repair any additional sectors discovered unless it is restarted.

Steve Gibson's Spinrite can assist you in recovering data from drives in that condition, even in bad sectors.
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Re: What´s the best "free" HDD bad sector repair tool.

Thanks for your replies, much appreciated.

Tried the free version of HDD Regenerator without success...
Maybe the best way is just to get a new HDD.

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Yo pinto2-

If you do (and should) replace the hard drive - strongly recommend that you get a Seagate with the five year warranty-

My data recovery company says that Seagates have the lowest frequency of repair/data loss of all the hard drive manufacturers (I just went through $700 in data recovery fees on my Western Digital 120gb year old drive with major head crashing problems)-

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My data recovery company says that Seagates have the lowest frequency of repair/data loss of all the hard drive manufacturers

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Mike, do you know if all the Seagate SATA drives use the standard molex connector for power as well as the SATA?

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Added: I just looked at Newegg and it looks like the answer is no.
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Yo chas0039-

My last three Seagate drives are all ultra ATA/100 drives-

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Replace marginal hard drives especially if they are 3+ years old. You can get a much larger drive now for cheap prices.
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The new Seagate SATA drives have SATA power connections only........

IMO, Seagate can't touch WD realibility........

There are NO reliable sector repair utilities. Low level the drive, if errors still exist than Mr. Brownstone's trashcan is the reasonable solution.........
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The new Seagate SATA drives have SATA power connections only........
yep sata connectors only.

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IMO, Seagate can't touch WD realibility........
now, now, I am sure if seagate dropped all quality control standards they could drop to the level of reliability of WD's. probably not IBM's though.....
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Seagate drives are the most reliable in the industry. Also the largest chunk of the HD market. I only buy drives with 5 yr warranty.
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Actually there's nothing wrong with Hitachi drives no matter what other brand you want to praise. HDDs die, it's a fact and for that matter Seagate isn't that great if you look at a performance/noise ratio. SATA drives lack the ability to set AAM and are said to be very loud when writing so I'd rather go for a PATA or another brand...
Hitachi 7K250-series are though very good performers in general both PATA/SATA.
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Seagate drives are the most reliable in the industry. Also the largest chunk of the HD market. I only buy drives with 5 yr warranty.
Not looking for an argument but this statement is not rooted in fact....... Personal favorites are often just that, personal favorites, generally without statistical foundation.......

There is no argument that Seagate has a good product. But my shops do extended warranty coverage for many major retailers in our area and have been doing so for quite some time. We replace alot of drives. If you consider the three major players, Maxtor, Seagate, and WD, our experience is as follows:

Drive failures / replace:

Maxtor - 65%
Seagate - 25%
WD - 10%

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Re: What´s the best "free" HDD bad sector repair tool.

Drive failures / replace:

Maxtor - 65%
Seagate - 25%
WD - 10%

This is exactly why I am considering replacing my Maxtor drive with all of my docs, pics, etc with a Seagate. I would go with WD but I like Seagate's 5 year warranty.

Okay, after some research the WD drive that would replace my Maxtor has a 3 year warranty but very mixed reviews on Newegg. I didn't know that Ingram Micro stocked WD drives. So I can order either the Seagate or WD thru Staples and get a great deal.
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No problem with Maxtors here. I've had 2 of them for almost 4yrs and they're still working fine till this day.

I've heard horrid stories about WD and even MORE horrid for Hitachi.
Seagate drives are loud. I haven't heard any other complaints besides that.
Samsung drives run hot like fire(compared to other HDD's), but they're very quiet.

In general, any HDD without FDB technology(which most earlier Seagates lack) is loud.

If chosing a new harddrive, I'd pick from my experience which is Maxtor.

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While I don't question their reliability, I seriously doubt that statement.
I've always taught it was WD, Maxtor, and then Seagate. Yes, in that order.
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Hmmm...guess you're not a tech investor. Research before you start guessing who has the largest market share. Maxtor used to build good drives. The newer Maxtors are just okay.

My 2.5 year old 60GB DiamondMax Plus 9 started to rattle last month. That's why I added a 160GB Seagate HD as a slave drive. Will send the Maxtor in for warranty service in a few weeks.
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Drive failures / replace:

Maxtor - 65%
Seagate - 25%
WD - 10%

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Thanks for the information pcdoc.

I'm currently running two WD ATA drives (WD2000JB and WD800JB). The 80GB drive has been up and running for more then two years without an issue. Not the quitest but very reliable sofar.

My experience with Maxtor is not that good. Bought a SATA 120GB (6Y120M0) last year but it failed after only three weeks in use, due to bad sectors.
Got an quick warranty replacement from Maxtor and this drive seems to run well although it's running kind'a hot, 44C(111F) compared to my WD ATA 200GB at 33C(91F) on same compu (HD Tune).
No more new SATA HDD´s for me at the moment...

My thanks to all providing useful information and insight.

Edit. Just ordered another WD ATA 200GB SE drive.

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I always liked Seagate hard drives but right now I'm very happy with my 2 Western Digital's. They are very fast and very quiet, I couldn't be happier with them. I'd suggest calling Seagate on it - their Warranty service is very good and you may get a new drive out of the deal for the cost of shipping.
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DFT repairs sectors fine.... and its what you should use
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Utilities:
1. HD Tune Pro ( ‘Error Scan’ );
2. HDDRegenerator (repair ‘bad’ ) - found in Hiren's.Boot.CD.v9.5;
3. SystemRescueCd-x86-1.1.0 - http://www.sysresccd.org/Download ;

Operations:
1. Run HD Tune Pro - ‘Error Scan’; if ‘bad’ on hdd, they are reds and it shows position of bad; write on a sheet of paper the position of bad;
2. Restart computer;
3. If hdd is RAID or AHCI, enter BIOS ( F2 ) & choose for IDE master non-raid, save bios and exit;
4. Restart computer, F11 (or choose boot device), boot CD /DVD HirenBootCD 9.5;
5. Choose HDDRegenerator;
6. Scan from position - postition from point 1 or less;
7. After Restore, restart computer, F11, boot from CD SystemRescueCd;
8. Resetting bad sectors list ( partition is for ex. /dev/sda1 , for C: partition ):
9. ntfsinfo -i 8 partition => ntfs_size = “Dumping attribute $DATA (0×80)”/“Allocated size” line ;
10. ntfstruncate partition 8 0x80 '$Bad' 0 ;
11. ntfstruncate partition 8 0x80 '$Bad' ntfs_size ( ntfs_size from point 9) ;
12. Command exit ( or reboot ? ) - Restart computer;
13. If hdd was RAID or AHCI, enter BIOS ( F2 ) & choose IDE master how it was before of modification from point 3 ( for ex. AHCI ), after that save bios and restart ;
14. Enter Windows -> Start -> Run -> cmd -> chkdsk c: /r , ‘next start: Y’, restart computer;
15. After chkdsk finish , Windows restart automatically;
16. Enter Windows , view chkdsk results , My Computer - Manage - Event Viewer - Application - Search for Source - Winlogon (last record date) and there it shows what chkdsk was make;
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IMO, Seagate can't touch WD realibility........
It looks like we've all had our experiences.. Also the thing is, companies' opinions can not be trusted, as you never know what kind of deal they've got and with who.

By the way, doesn't it seem a little strange that the only program to repair HDDs in existence is the HDD Regenerator; plus the manufacturer doesn't say "how it works". It's a shame, actually....
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