CD/DVD Protection Spray For Inkjet Labels

Disc Printing and Labeling Discuss, CD/DVD Protection Spray For Inkjet Labels at Computer Hardware forum; wear a face mask and use a well ventilated area, i hand sprayed thousands and thousands of discs, i not have an automated machine with plumbed in extraction which is awesome, but if you need to make do with aerosole cans, beware, it can leave a fine dust over everything

Old Posted: 24-11-2008
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wear a face mask and use a well ventilated area, i hand sprayed thousands and thousands of discs, i not have an automated machine with plumbed in extraction which is awesome, but if you need to make do with aerosole cans, beware, it can leave a fine dust over everything in the same room.

best (tried and tested) method for batch spraying is to lay out 50 discs in a square on a flat surface covered in a sheet or paper to protect the surface and at a good distance spray once laft to right, leave 1 minute and re-spray top to bottom making sure the spray is always moving.

for the mass users, there are automated machine available on the market but they are not cheap, generally around the £5000 (GBP) mark.
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Old Posted: 24-11-2008
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try clear hairspray/laquer
Old Posted: 18-12-2008
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I tried the Novick stuff, with iffy results. No matter how well i shake/mix the can, when I spray there is a nice mist, but also a lot of droplets mixed in the sspray. The result is a smooth finnish with a bumpy look. I have tried several disks and have yet to get a smooth looking glossy finish. And after days of not touching it, I decided to try the "wet finger" test, to see how much better the surface actually was compared to the original unprotected print. I was surprised when the ink smeared with the same of handling as the unprotected. Overall, not impressed with the Novick spray....
Old Posted: 19-12-2008
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Sounds like you got a bad can. I've never had a problem, and I use it on everything. Matte & Gloss. Did you read the instructions on the can? How far are you holding the nozzle from the disk face?



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Old Posted: 20-12-2008
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Lol..yeah, I realized later that Novick didn't look right....There *IS* a difference between astronauts in diapers and spray lacquer.
I held the can as close as 6 inches and as far as 14 inches, with exact same result. And as I said, I was surprised when i could still rub the ink the same as with no spray.
Old Posted: 20-12-2008
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I have used Patricia Nomick's for over three years, and I am satisfied with the results. There is definitely an art to applying it. It has performed very well for me, however, I am a realist: You are not going to get professional returns on a $5 investment... Just my 2 cents...
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I just re-read my post, and thought I should seek to clarify. I am very satisfied with the output of my R320 and even more satisfied with my R280 with Claria ink. I am not seeking to enhance the colors or finish in any way. I merely want smudge protection. I handle my discs with care 100% of the time, but the few others with access to my collection are not as careful. The Patricia Nomick's has served this purpose well without detracting from the quality of the prints in any way. It actually does slightly enhance the colors. I apply one very light coat with no follow-up applications.
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I just re-read my post, and thought I should seek to clarify. I am very satisfied with the output of my R320 and even more satisfied with my R280 with Claria ink. I am not seeking to enhance the colors or finish in any way. I merely want smudge protection. I handle my discs with care 100% of the time, but the few others with access to my collection are not as careful. The Patricia Nomick's has served this purpose well without detracting from the quality of the prints in any way. It actually does slightly enhance the colors. I apply one very light coat with no follow-up applications.
What CD/DVD blanks do you use? I have a R320 and also a RX680 i have yet to hook up. Is there that much difference with Claria inks?
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In my opinion, the Claria inks are more vibrant. I use TY hub printables.
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I compared Epson Claria to generic refilled compatible inks and saw no difference in color tone or saturation. I'd add that they were both equally prone to smudging on any media type.
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no matter what brand to spray they all smell terrible and the odor stays forever! this is my only concern. is there any deodorizer i can wipe on the disc after spraying it just to minimize the odor?
Old Posted: 25-01-2009
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I've had great results using this process:
1. Print the disc
2. Apply d_skin disc protector over data side of disc
3. Spray light coat of Patricia Nomick's spray (I use matte)
4. Let dry (use hair dryer if you are in a hurry)
5. Spray second light coat and let dry
6. Remove d_skin (which you can reuse many times)
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I've had great results using this process:
1. Print the disc
2. Apply d_skin disc protector over data side of disc
3. Spray light coat of Patricia Nomick's spray (I use matte)
4. Let dry (use hair dryer if you are in a hurry)
5. Spray second light coat and let dry
6. Remove d_skin (which you can reuse many times)
What is d_skin?
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What is d_skin?
Thanks for your reply. I have found that the aggravation of being absolutely sure that the disc has not been damaged and the less-than-satisfactory gloss, makes the process not worth it.
I have discovered Taiyo Yuden Glossy discs (Rima.com) which sells them @50 for $29.99, a much better alternative. The quality of the discs gives me no "bad burns" and the result is awesome- as good as the original.
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I read some of the postings on this site, and went ahead and tried a can of Krylon acrylic crystal clear gloss spray on basic matte white CD-Rs, and the result was great. It looked similar to what the Everest 3 can put out, and that is a $5000 piece of machinery.
For best results, spray in light coats, like 2 or 3, until completely covered, with about 15 minutes between coats, let it dry for about a day before handling or testing its scratch proof or water resistant capabilities.
Taiyo Yuden CDs are good, but are costly, and have the blue bottom, I much prefer the silver bottoms, as the Prodisc diamond CDs have, (about $0.19 each). Prodisc is a good name brand.
Old Posted: 07-11-2009
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i tried 3 different kinds of spray the walmart novacks it was garbage to me as well as 2 other glossy sprays from krylon and a15 year old can of 1310 matte finish , the matte worked great you can spray it on thick the glossy was a mess it almost ruined 3 disc it would not stick to the disc very well and if you spray such a fine mist that it does it looks like a golf ball when your done... i tried the new jvc waterproof disc glossy but they are not watershields and the surface has orange peel from the factory ... im sticking to watershields this is too much work...hell they are 60 cents per...
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anyone tried this im thinking of coating all my 500 or so disc i made a year ago that dont have printed labels so i can make them look better than a sharpie...


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Old Posted: 13-11-2009
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AquaGuard disks do not smear at all and require no spray:

CD-R here:

http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop...tm?sku=6772757

DVD-R here:

http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop...tm?sku=8362831

All have worked well for me. No scratching like glossy WaterShield, which can still smear with wet thumb.

I think AquaGuard coating is best of all the printable media I have tried so far. Very good results with no smears at all for me.
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damn those are almost a buck a piece are they glossy atleast?
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Thank you for reply

They are not glossy but are matte finish.

I like matte finish best because the glossy for WaterShield scratches a lot and then can smear also.

AquaGuard does not smear at all and the top does not scratch in the CD player in the car. I also do not like how WatherShield has the hub ring treated different and stands out. AquaGuard is one continuous surface into hub with no bump in the ring.

I do wish they did not cost so much but they do work best for me so I pay for them instead of regular printable media that smears.
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ive yet to have any cd smear but i dont have slot loaded dvd players and i dont handle cd's very much the bp from quantum scratch real bad...
Old Posted: 17-11-2009
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i decided to try and replicate a ty watershield it takes time but can be done , I used a memorex printable dvd my epson 280 printer some old matte krylon 1310 it flows pretty good... and then used the meguires headlight restoration kit and my drill to polish the crap out of the cd... i think it came out ok im no professional





and a video sorry for the breathing...lol

one thing i messed up on was i stayed in the center too long and burned through the clear in the very center no biggie...
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Old Posted: 17-11-2009
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I just found this spray specifically designed for CDs and DVDs.

http://shop.cd-writer.com/catalog/pr...-p-103344.html

It is somewhere in England I imagine, if they have it there, maybe in the US as well.

They make a UV coater for CDs and DVDs, it is quite costly though. I checked, they want $3500 for it, and it only does 1 at a time.

I also use an Epson printer. Of all the CD printers I have, it is the best one. It does leave tracks from the rollers if I use TYs, so I either use Pidata or Prodisc. Both are unbranded, and priced really well.

http://www.emediadepot.com/Prodisc_D...p/46113327.htm

http://www.emediadepot.com/White_Ink...2x-wih-200.htm
Old Posted: 17-11-2009
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just look what it does to a silver ty non hub disc this is only 30 seconds of polishing not bad for 5 minutes work



Old Posted: 17-11-2009
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For silver background CDs, I use the Uprint thermal CD/DVD printer. The prints come out waterproof, and scratch proof automatically. With a mirror finish. The CD blanks are about $0.19 each, same place as mentioned above, they are the prodisc ones. Ink ribbons are cheap, (comes to $0.09 per print) And the Uprint is only $89.00. I bought it to replace my Dymo Discpainter. They do nice prints, the discpainter, but it isn't what I am looking for. They say it has the best inkjet print out there. And on TYs, I do agree, but I print way too many CDs, probably like 50-100 per day, the discpainter is too slow (about 65 seconds per print). I am selling on ebay pretty soon.
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