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DVDFab / DVD Region+CSS Free Discuss, sometimes it writes at Movie copy software forum; Some times when trying to write to media using BD to BD it's no problem, other times however, I get an error message, in BD to BD I select ImgBurn as burnEngine Error=102.Then If I just go to ImgBurn it self I have no problem writing to the disc, why

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Some times when trying to write to media using BD to BD it's no problem, other times however, I get an error message, in BD to BD I select ImgBurn as burnEngine Error=102.Then If I just go to ImgBurn it self I have no problem writing to the disc, why can't DVDfab ImgBurn read the info that it's in the folder, what am I missing here
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Some times when trying to write to media using BD to BD it's no problem, other times however, I get an error message, in BD to BD I select ImgBurn as burnEngine Error=102.Then If I just go to ImgBurn it self I have no problem writing to the disc, why can't DVDfab ImgBurn read the info that it's in the folder, what am I missing here


Can you post a log from a failed BD burn with Imgburn used in DVDFab?

Thanks.


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Hey OCanada, I am attaching the vso file, don't know if it will help though, but what the heck give it a shot.
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Hey OCanada, I am attaching the vso file, don't know if it will help though, but what the heck give it a shot.


Thanks...it's a BIG help!!

I noticed several things going through that log.

1.) You had several successful DVD writes between the BD attempts.

But enough of that...this is about BD writes.

You basically have 2 problems.

1.) Crappy media (the Ritek BD discs are causing the major errors, and it's in black & white in the log. Media Error.

2.) You are, in certain cases, trying to write a 25 Gb+ file to a 25Gb disc, and the file is just too big...won't fit.

As far as the crappy media goes, I'm not familiar enough with BD to be able to tell you the best BD media, but what applies to regular DVDs should apply to BD too. (at least, as far as Ritek goes, that seems to be the case).

If a company puts out a good DVD blank, chances are their BD product will be equally good.

Not directly related to either problem, but hopefully sidetracking some future ones, I would strongly suggest that you switch to Imgburn for your DVD and BD burning needs. Overall, it's a better program than the VSO one, and I know it gives better results with marginal DVD media, and may do the same for BD.

Hopefully, this answers at least some of your question.


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Thanks for the reply OC. I do use ImgBurn for writing in BD to BD dvdfab but some times it flat out won't write.In this case for instance, the size of the file was 23 GB small enough to fit on a 25GB disc taking up just 96% of disc, but I kept getting the 102 error, so I closed fab and went straight to ImgBurn and had no problem, now granted the media may not be top shelf, but you would think that if I could burn at ImgBurn then the ImgBurn in DVDFab should work as well, but it wouldn't, and these are only intermittent cases, I would say 50% result in failure, so I am just curious as to why I can go to ImgBurn and write, but not be able to do it in DVDFab As far as dvd writes, I never have any issues their,and that's gold, just the occasional BD issue.
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Thanks for the reply OC. I do use ImgBurn for writing in BD to BD dvdfab but some times it flat out won't write.In this case for instance, the size of the file was 23 GB small enough to fit on a 25GB disc taking up just 96% of disc, but I kept getting the 102 error, so I closed fab and went straight to ImgBurn and had no problem, now granted the media may not be top shelf, but you would think that if I could burn at ImgBurn then the ImgBurn in DVDFab should work as well, but it wouldn't, and these are only intermittent cases, I would say 50% result in failure, so I am just curious as to why I can go to ImgBurn and write, but not be able to do it in DVDFab As far as dvd writes, I never have any issues their,and that's gold, just the occasional BD issue.


What are your BD settings in Fab? (I'll have to take a second look myself to see what might affect the outcome...).


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What are your BD settings in Fab? (I'll have to take a second look myself to see what might affect the outcome...).


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As a follow up to that last question...have you set the writing speed for your BD discs in Imgburn? (Same procedure as setting up DVD writing speeds based on the Mfrs I.D. on each disc).

I just took a second look at your burn logs, and I noticed on the second read through that the requested write speed for the BDs is 8x, whereas the recommended write speed is 2x.

Looks to me like you haven't dealt with the write speed at all, and I think I've found out why Imgburn won't write when you're using it as part of DVDFab. (I expect that BD discs, with the info even closer packed than regular DVDs, are far more sensitive to the write speed than regular DVDs are).

You'll have to go into Imgburn, set up all your BD IDs and burn speeds with it, leave Fab writing speed as 'recommended', and let Imgburn control it.

Then try another burn with Imgburn operating out of Fab, and let us know the results.


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Yeah, you where right, I had not set write, it was at recommended changed it to 2, in write mode,

1) burn engine is ImgBurn

2) write speed for BD is now set to 2x

3) for DVD
recommended has always been at recommended
writable media 5 = 4300
writable media 9 = 8000
write type o fDVD-R = auto
the 4 check boxes are all unchecked

good eye OC, wouldn't be able to test until tomorrow as I have some errands to take care of, but I will let you know the results success or failure tomorrow ( unless of course I blow some off and she who must be obeyed doesn't find out )
Thanks again OC
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Yeah, you where right, I had not set write, it was at recommended changed it to 2, in write mode,

1) burn engine is ImgBurn

2) write speed for BD is now set to 2x

3) for DVD
recommended has always been at recommended
writable media 5 = 4300
writable media 9 = 8000
write type o fDVD-R = auto
the 4 check boxes are all unchecked

good eye OC, wouldn't be able to test until tomorrow as I have some errands to take care of, but I will let you know the results success or failure tomorrow ( unless of course I blow some off and she who must be obeyed doesn't find out )
Thanks again OC
If I'm reading what you have just posted correctly, it looks to me like you done all the settings in DVDFab...not exactly what I had in mind...

BD write speed in DVDFab should be 'recommended'.

BD write speed in Imgburn will have to be set up based on Media ID as reported by Imgburn...if you're not sure how to set this up, see any post by Stormjumper...he has the procedure listed there in his signature (it's for DVDs, but the same procedures will apply for BD discs, too).

When that's properly set up, then try a BD write using Imgburn through DVDFab.

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OK, you did indeed read the post correctly. I have gone back and reset everything,went to StormJumpers site followed the instructions to a T, then I tried to burn a BD to media from full disc,failure, however when I tried from main movie it started to burn, but I got to wondering is it only going to burn just the main movie, or will all the info that I ripped to my HDD be included as well, the disc that I ripped only has 17GB of info on it, but I would like to capture all of it on the media, the write data failed as well, so is this just something that I am doing wrong or what, I am not going to give up on this, even though it can get a little frustrating at times.

By the way, thanks StormJumper for that info that you provide

and thanks again to you OCanada for your patience
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By the way, thanks StormJumper for that info that you provide

and thanks again to you OCanada for your patience
Your welcome to bad I'm not into blu-ray so I could be of some help in that area oh well maybe some day
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Hey StormJumper, when you do decide, considering you might, I think you will really enjoy it. marvelous picture

Thanks again
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Hey StormJumper, when you do decide, considering you might, I think you will really enjoy it. marvelous picture

Thanks again


Once we've got this problem beat with Imgburn, maybe you could come on board here as our Blu-Ray expert - I don't have or use it either - the help I'm offering here is based on my DVD experience...

Are you in a position yet to be able to post an actual Imgburn log re one of those failed burns - especially since you reset Imgburn for your BD media?


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morning OCanada, would you mind if I sent you a pm ?
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morning OCanada, would you mind if I sent you a pm ?


Go right ahead. Looking forward to it.


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Okay, you asked earlier if I could send you a ImgBurn log I am going to give it a try, as a funny thing happened while I was trying to write in main movie it switched over to Img Burn and it is showing some errors specifically ( FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME)failed, not sure what that's all about. Any way when this disc is finished I will forward a log, if I encounter a problem in forwarding, I will ask for some assistance
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posting logs
  • imgburn logs are at help, imgburn, logs
  • just copy and paste to a reply

( FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME)

this is normal and okay as dvdfab is accessing the drive and imgburn is trying to lock the drive before burning, this should not be a problem.
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Thanks for the reply troy512,
I created a folder for the logs and just put it on the desktop, files are being copied to it as I as write this, and its good to know FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME) is not a problem, everything else is just humming along and I have a good felling that all the files are being copied, but wouldn't truly know until I play it back.
thanks again troy512
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Hi troy512,
update to last post, found log file where you said it would be. I like those logs better, more detail. will forward when disc is finished.
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OK here's the log from ImgBurn.
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Well OCanada,
my good feeling was premature, sure enough it copied only the main movie, and as far as getting a ImgBurn log file of the error, it doesn't post to the ImgBurn logs so the only log I have is the one I am attaching, but I am sure it won't reveal much, need to figure out why I can't write from the full movie mode very confusing indeed
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when i burn SL disc, dvdfab will not burn if anydvd is running, i even have the setting in dvdfab unchecked for on-the-fly decrypter. i burn with a different drive than i use to rip, so i have anydvd disabled for my burning drive. i see you have both a BD-ROM and BD-RE. are you running AnyDVD with dvdfab?

your dvdfab process says 12:15:14: Task_1 failed! Error=102

this would occur before the burn, as the burn is task 2

the dvdfab error codes do not give much help 102 DVD_Error_ReadFile,
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i dont like seeing this in your logs
Code:
E 17:45:30 CreateFile Failed! - Device: '\\.\CdRom1' (G:)
E 17:45:30 Reason: The device is not ready.
W 17:45:30 Errors were encountered when trying to access a drive.
W 17:45:30 This drive will not be visible in the program.
please read this thread

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=10650


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no, I never run anydvd together with fab, anydvd is disabled when I run fab. Where in setting is the on- the- fly decrypter ? as far as my drive goes it's a bd and the only bd drive I have. I don't have any other options to use a different drive, and I didn't think the log file would be of much help.I just need to figure out why it will not write in full or write data modes, I have had success in the past writing from full, not always a 100%, but now Nada,any way I intend to move forward on this, it just can't be that complicated, just over looking some thing that's probably staring at me. Thanks again for the reply it's always good to get any info, hints, tips etc....
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no, I never run anydvd together with fab, anydvd is disabled when I run fab. Where in setting is the on- the- fly decrypter ?
thats good.

in settings, general

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as far as my drive goes it's a bd and the only bd drive I have. I don't have any other options to use a different drive,
i wonder why ImgBurn sees

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1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE!
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and I didn't think the log file would be of much help.
actually the process log is some help as it tells us the error 102 is during task 1 ripping, not task 2 burning
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