DvdFab or the dvd player

Skunkz

Hey guys new member first post

Here is my issue spent about a hour or so looking for simular problems but to no avail. I am not sure if it is my dvd player or a problem from when i am burnign the disc. using dvd fab platinum version 3.0.9.8 To decrypt and shrink/burn. The problem is some movies will play with no problem, some wont (skipping,freezing, etc) seems to be intermintent (spelling). Here are the settings i have set for dvd fab any tips or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Read
I/O mode= auto
ask/retry/ignore checked
retry=5
skip sectors=32
Write
Burning engine= VSO
Write Speed= Slowest
Write type= packet
dvd media size= 4472
set booktype to DVD-ROM checked
PROTECTION
everything checked
Will get the model of the dvd player i use to watch and post shortly. Sorry if this is to much just trying to provide as much info as i can.

Jimbo

Welcome to the forum, Write try SAO, write speed try 4X
My DVDFAB Platinum Settings Which Work Great For Me
Read
I/O Mode: Auto
Check: Ask Retry/Ignore/Abort When Reading Error
Retry: 5 Times
Skip Sectors After Reading Error: 32
Cache Control: Check Enable Read Ahead

Write
Write: Burning Engine VSO
Write Speed: 4X or 8X ( I use 8X myself because I use 8X Verbatim media )
Write Type: SAO
DVD Writeable Media: DVD-5 Size 4472 ( less compression )
Check Booktype To DVD-ROM ( only for DVD+R/RW Media )

Protection
Check Everything

Also I use Verbatim + media

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Skunkz

Thanks Jim will give it a shot. Was always told slowest was the best on the burn speed but gonna try it out to see. The movies always seem to play fine until the last 3-4 chapters then thats where i get my problem. And to think of all the dvd's i have wasted now lol.

bigmacnc

You may want to loo at % of compression too. I usually just back up main movie when using SL discs and I choose 4300 as size because I use TY-R 4X value-line and have had similar problems when trying to use a larger setting. Your problem appears to be at the outer edge of the disc which tends to speed up.

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Skunkz

You may want to look at % of compression too.
Thought you could only selct dvd5 or 9 for compression? what am i missing lol

wrenchman

if your player is not to old try a burn with out book type dvd rom, my newest player does just what your describing if I book type

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bigmacnc

That is correct but by DVD 5 you will see a % number. I have had success at 60%.

DVD 9 usually 100%, but does not matter if you choose Clone mode. Some movied come already compressed. I have had main movies back up at 80%.

You can set the size like 4300 in common settings can be changed to 4472.

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Skunkz

I think i am going to try just using dvd fab decrypter and dvd shrink to burn em been reading around and seen a lot of people with great success going that route. But will do lots of testing to see what works best for me.

mjwhitfield

It's good advice to set your options the way Jimbo suggested, but honestly this sounds like the media your using is low quality or doesn't like your burner.

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TCAS

I agree the best thing to do to avoid losing the quality is to just copy the main movie and not the extra which you seldom use.

Skunkz

The mdeia i am using is a 100pk of comp usa dvd r got em for like 20 $ so prolly my issue there gonna pick up some verbatim dvd's and try those

maineman

Yeah, I'm betting your issues will disappear after switching to some quality media.
Stick with Verbs or TYs. Given your current media, you're burning too close to the edge. The predisposition for burn errors increases greatly as you push the limits of the disc...the dye thins out and is inconsistent, any wobble, etc., is exaggerated and the laser has more difficulty focusing. True of all media, but much greater with marginal stuff.

Like Mack said, you may also have the problem of too much compression.
This should improve also with the verbs, but only to a point...

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TCAS

I have always doubt about reliability of those none OEM and name brand DVD. For good quality of burn process, use brand names media like Verbatim, Sony and Fuji.

Skunkz

I ran a test today with night at the museum. Burned with dvd fab and also burned with dvd shrink got the same errors on the last 2 chapters on both disk and played in the xbox and the dvd player. So its gotta be the media will get new stuff this weeked. Im also thinking about getting a dual layer burner so i can burn in dvd 9. Will most new dvd players read dual layer dvd's? Maybe that will be a better but more exspensive route.

signals

Errors near the end of a DVD5 or near the layer break on a DVD9 are almost always due to poor quality media.

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maineman

My good friend signals is right...if you haven't figured it out yet, he's always right...even when he says he doesn't know...

As far as your other questions...
The answer as to the amount of compression you can apply and stay happy is complicated and very individual. A number of factors come into play, the bitrate of the original, screen size/resolution, etc., etc., and yes, your dvd player as well. Will changing your burner and player help?...maybe?, probably?, but we don't know what you've got. Still, the first, easiest, cheapest and best move is to change to quality media such as verbs and TYs. If you try DL burning, stick with verbatim +R DL only.

Personally, I don't like to go much below 80% or so, but that's just me.
I'll go down to the 50's % on TV episodes and I've gone down to 52-53% on movies like T2 with very good results and no playback issues. Still, if it's much below 80% on a movie, I'll burn it to a DL for $1.50 or less and maintain the quality.

Like I said, you'll have to find your own comfort zone. You'll get a lot of different responses here...as long as it plays ok, it doesn't make anyone right or wrong, it's really up to the viewer.

Hope this helps.

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