DVDFab 4.0.5.1 Beta

@ bamahusker, try running it through FixVts & then open it in Dvd Shrink. Also which Analyze are you talking about using, the one on the Dvd Shrink Toolbar?

no just DVD Shrink itself. when you open the file and after 30 seconds or so you see at the top where some is red and green? half the bar is green and the other half is red. Red indicates over 4.7 gig.

I would like you to click the analysis button on the Toolbar, run it through & then see what happens.

@ Bama,
I think Beef Barley is correct.
Take the Fab ripped files from your HD, run them thru Fixvts, and then do Shrink on the Fixvts cleaned files.
This works for 310 to yuma, and I presume for similar protected dvds.
Hopefully, fengtao will have a fix for this problem soon. I understand it is simply a pointer problem.

Yes last night i downloaded Fix_VTS and ran it. I used to use this along with another program which i can't remember what it was right now,but this was before i heard about Fab. Anyway after using Fix_VTS again after over a year of using it,i reloaded the VOB's into Shrink and it was all Green. The movie company "Good Luck Chuck" comes from has given me a little trouble in the past but not like this. Anyway,Thanks guys for the help.

Why not try using DVD Fab Gold and set it to DVD5 and let it do all the work? Just curious.

even though its old dvdshrink is the best transcoder there is (untill proved otherwise lol)

I use Platinum and this works great. However, I ran FixVTS for grins on a recent rip (The Departed) and it found (and fixed) a number of things. What does this mean actually? If I re-burned the movie onto a disc would it play better?

I'm somewhat new at this and I'm trying to understand why or when I should augment DVDFab Platinum for backups. Specifically, when should I use FixVTS if I want to put movies onto DVD5 after a "full disc" rip with DVDFab? Thanks!

-IP

if you use dvd fab to get a dvd on your computer...but cant open the dvd with dvdshrink etc then fixvts fixes the compliance problem with the dvd...this link explains a little:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/arch...xvts_guide.cfm

Not necessarily, in fact probably not.

If you have Platinum, in most cases you will not need to do further processing with FixVTS. Users of the free version of DVDFab have to process some titles to make them acceptable to applications such as DVDShrink or DVDRebuilder, due to artifacts of the protection removal schemes in DVDFab (which are transparent to most players and PC player software).

Got it. Thanks for the explanation.

-IP

I'm not quite sure what that running Shrink 4 times deal is. Do this.

Open the DVDFab rip with DVD Shrink. Click on the icon at the top (when you point the mouse at it, it will say deep analysis). Click on that. DVD Shrink will then run through a deep analysis. When it's done, you will now see the size is all in the green and it's ready to process like you normally would. This works for both 3:10 to Yuma and Good Luck Chuck.

Alternatively you could run it through FixVTS (the whole thing, leaving the box "process in place" checked). This will do the same thing. Then open normally with DVD shrink. Personally I like just letting DVD Shrink do the deep analysis, so there is no need to use another program (FixVTS).

I saw another post here that stated running it through DVDFab with PathPlayer enabled already fixed this. That confused me a bit because I have it set to use PathPlayer when needed which should be the same thing (if it needed Pathplayer, it should be using it). Dunno if that post was referring to DVDFab Platinum doing the whole thing or if it was referring to using DVD Shrink. I used DVD Shrink and had to do what I stated above. I did movie only.

I agree.
Old is not bad, despite the opinion of some folks.

Absolutely agree, old certainly is not necessarily bad....not sure to whom this is referring?
I still have shrink on my rigs, but I never use it any longer. Still, it's like an old friend.
Well, this is strictly a matter of opinion and I respectfully disagree. I realize folks that use fab freeware are likely to avail themselves of shrink (which is quality transcoder) and that's all well and good. Moreover, if you wish to think it's still the best transcoder out there, well that's fine too. However, trying to sell the idea to those who use Platinum, which I believe to be an outstanding, all-in-one application, and the best of it's kind, bar none, is a bit contentious and frankly a bit absurd...particularly with respect to this industry.
(It was last updated almost 3 years ago now).

To be clear here, I have no problem with anyone using shrink nor do I have any vested interest in persuading these same individuals to use platinum.
Just please, enough of selling shrink already...

Just my 2 cents.

I have used both extensively. I have never seen any proof that one is better than another. And as I find myself saying more and more often, age has nothing to do with it.

The attraction to DVD Shrink is more than it's quality. It's the features. To my knowledge, it's one of the very few that allow frame by frame editing (the only other one I know of that does this is Recode), allowing to view the movie in real time before it's processed (which is really useful in listening to each audio option, like Director's Cuts, etc, and viewing double titles to see the differences to know which one is prefered). Awhile back someone made a mod exe for DVD Shrink that allows it to burn with Imgburn automatically rather than DVD Decrypter which added to it's value. Things like this is what makes it ageless and it's why it's still used by so many people. The day another program comes along that can do these same things is when I will consider something other than. I won't even debate which is better, it's what has the features and interface one needs and wants for their personal uses. These are reasons why people still use this program (among others). I will add it also has absolutely nothing to do with it being free. It's about what a user likes to use for his own reasons/purposes.

Some here seems to think an advocate for DVD Shrink is an enemy of DVDFab. Nothing can be further from the truth. They both deserve the same degree of respect.

No one here has said anything to the contrary. What I object to are opinions stated as fact. I used DVDShrink today. And actually, the set begin/end points, while a great feature, does not have single frame resolution.

Cool news. So when you update should you unistall the older version, or write over the old?

I do that to reduce the amount of compression. Chopping off the part that shows which studio put the movie out and removing end credits works great.

Maybe I'm odd. I'm only interested in the movie, not all the extra crap on the disc.

Mike89,the problem was already fixed. Usually after running DVD Shrink if it gets in the red at all it's usually maybe 200 kb or so over so by reshrinking,meaning select "save to hard disk" on the pull down menu,instead of "create iso and burn with DVD Decrypter",it'll save what you have so far on your hard drive. with DVD Shrink still open,open the new folder you created in shrink and it'll analyze again and everything is in the green. But with Good Luck Chuck,as you have seen,even reshrinking like 4 times it was still in the red. But luckily someone reminded me about Fix_VTS,which i used to use when i just used DVD Decrypter before i discovered Fab Decrypter, so i ran that and it fixed the problem. Hopefully Fab Decrypter will work on that problem in the future. and i don't use Gold or Platinum at this time. I use the Free Version,however i might get Platinum soon and try out the "DVD to PSP" option on it when i get my PSP from ebay that i won yesterday.

Paul

with 4.0.5.1. Beta DvdFab cannot read the dvd file off my hard drive. This has not happened with previous versions of DvdFab. Any ideas? The discs in question are catalogue titled documentaries and are not "new" releases.

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Last edited by fengtao; 21-01-2008 at 04:33.

Re Shrink vs Fab

1. The way to measure this objectively would be to analyse the transcoding of each program and examine bitrate and quant in various "hard" scenes. I guess, transcoding time would also come into consideration (for some).

2. We do have a thread in Copy DVD Movie where I believe this is more appropriately discussed.

Regards

I use HDDvdFab and DvdShrink exclusively W/ ImgBurn. I don't think itis a freeware vs. payware as HDDvdFab only "burped" a couple of times with DvdShrink. They are both free. It also seems that when the people in this forum who "really" are knowledgeable make suggestions and then the issues get taken care of rather quickly. The last time HDDvdFab "burped" with HDDvdFab the expressions of the members were completely taken care of by Ting and Fengtao. The speed by which they adjusted there program showed how much they care and listen. I believe many people use DvdShrink and HDDvdFab and posting those issues in this thread keeps 2 of the BEST programs working together and the authors of HDDvdFab will be able to readily see the concerns of the people who use their products. HDDvdFab questions and comments should be in the HDDvdFab thread. If you want a philosophical debate then that is a different issue.

So far I haven't had any issues with DVDFab 4.0.5.1 Beta.

...me too.