DVDFab 4.0.1.6 Beta

I'll try a different disc. Let you know.

DVD Fab transcodes, DVD-RB re encodes. Re encoding gives better quality.

rcubedcuber

i use DVD Rebuilder as nothing comes close to it, Period. For instance i've recently done re-encodes of full (Episodic) discs with 44% compression , outstanding results, there's nothing out there can do that bar Rebuilder as far as i know.

edit- i love DVD Shrink for instance, but there are some movies/episodics that need a bit of extra oomph in the re-encoding department, transcoders just don't come close

You guys are too much!!! Way to go with the updates

The new disc worked. Now I'll try DVD Rebuilder.

All apps have their place if you know how to use them and yes i have DVDRB-Pro with CCE basic

Fengtao's transcoder looks pretty good to me, even on my HD set, but I seldom run it below 80-85%. Better and much faster than Shrink. I'll have to give Rebuilder a try. 44% would be impressive.

Same here...
I was giving some thought to Rebuilder and I'll probably try it and fool with it a bit, but at my age and as cheap as good media is...I'm lookin' for easy.
It doesn't get much easier then platinum, usually 1 click,
"Set It and Forget It"...

You have to remember not to just judge on percentage. The bitrate and quant plays a big role.

DVD Rebuilder Pro worked with "Remove useless cells" unchecked in DVDFab.

@CDRipper
Great news, glad it worked for you!
@linx05
Thanks for the tip.

Re-encode to what end? Compression? If you are doing full disk to dual layer staying at DVD9 is there any transcoding or re-encoding going on any way?

If you're just ripping it, and burning it, no.

Maybe some folks would like the quality of an encoder versus transcoding solutions which are inferior to encoding ones. In fact, DVDRB allows the user to redistribute the available bits according to a constant quantisation, which is very useful. Encoders allow for all sorts of things, too and given the whole thing is frameserved by avisynth, you can apply filters as you wish.

And, of course, if you wish to copy to DL, then there's no need for any solution, other than a burning one.

As for compression percentage, it is almost totally meaningless. Please read this.

But, of course, each to his own - Fab offers an all in one deal, which is very very convenient to some people.

Regards

My point is/was that i use DVD-5, have never used DVD-9 nor intend to, am perfectly happy with DVD-5 and the results i get with DVD Shrink (video quality permitting); video quality not permitting i use DVD Rebuilder to obtain excellent video quality on a DVD-5

Anyways, my intention a few posts back wasn't to derail the thread away from DVDFab, t'was purely because DVDFab has been giving me (and other people) grief with DVD Rebuilder lately, but thanks to Fengtao et al we now have some code built into DVDFab that now stops those new and ever nasty dvd encryptions from breaking DVD Rebuilder (i haven't got around to testing it yet but one or two other people have)

has anyone having a problem opening up the movie called "El Cantante"? ver 3.1.8.0 and 4.0.1.2 cannot open the disc.
getting... 'abort, cancel, retry' screen.

Just wanted to say Thank You Fengtao and Ting. I got a little behind in your updates, but that I'm once again up to date. So thank you guys. You really go all out. ~ Mike

I downloaded that trial version yesterday night and tried the "Clone" function to back up my single-disk "At World's end" purchase. I was going DVD-9 to DVD-9. Everything went smoothly wrt the production phases.

The resultant back up DVD has two "stutter" points in the scenes where the council/brethren meet and put their weird pieces of eight into the tray. The first stutter occurs about when Barbossa bashes the head to get his eyeball token for the tray, and the second one happens (maybe) 20 seconds later. With 4.0.1.6 (beta) it is really a stutter and pause, but it doesn't appear any frames are skipped. These artifacts are repeatable with subsequent retries of the whole Clone process, so it's not a "tired bits" issue with the source or target DVD's, nor the HDD, etc ... just the DVDFab program.

This is in marked contrast to previous versions of DVDFab Platinum where these two scenes (and additional ones throughout the whole DVD) fumbled badly (skipping maybe the following 30-40 seconds). 4.0.1.2 was much beter than the "3.x.x.x" versions, but 4.0.1.6 has really reached the tipping point where the developers need fix only one or two last bugs in order to release a version which does "At World's End" back ups 100% accurate. I'm really impressed with the product and the responsiveness of the developer(s).

BTW ... the DVDFab rip to HDD plays 100% correct, at least using Nero Showtime in XP or Mplayer in openSuse. So it is the "write to DVD" part of the product that has the problem. As an aside, when DVDFab is 100% accurate for backing up this title, I will purchase it. Confidence!

@burprun - more than likely, you have a media problem. Change to Verbatim MKM-001s +R 2.4x not made in India.

Regards

I'm not trying to diss or dismiss DVDRebuilder. I do have it. Only used it a few times.

Here's what I see in the industry. Does an encoder to a "better" job than a "transcoder"? Sure. Test it in detail, etc., you find DVDRebuilder technically does a better job. Ok, but does one product doing a better job mean the other is somehow substandard? No, it doesn't. But that is what gets implied. So does HDMI cable "technically" do a better job than component cables? Sure. So lets all go get HDMI cables. Problem of course is component cables are outstanding and HD on component cables is amazing. There is nothing substandard about component cables.

Point?

It seems to me we do the same thing when we get to things like DVDRebuilder, DVDFab, etc. Even on disk that I have gone to single layer disk, I actually like lightscribe and have yet to find d/l for them, when I watch the DVD back from a single layer lightscribe disk on my TV does it look bad and I find myself thinking, "Dang I wish I woulld have encoded this disk instead of transcoding it...?" Not once.

Again I'm not dissing DVDRebuilder or those who use it. I'm just saying it seems to be some unneccesary complication gets introduced into the process when you start throwing software like DVDRebuilder into the mix.

There is a market for us "one click" kinda folks. I'm not going to ever produce AVISynth scripts. Could I figure them out? Sure. To me, again to me, is it worth the time it takes as in the final DVD is THAT much better than using DVDFab or Nero Recode, etc.? In my experince I have not found it is worth the investment. Using DVDFab for each part of the process produces a single layer DVD that looks tremendous. If DVDRebuilder makes a DVD that looks even better, that is great. It doing so does not then mean DVDFab's DVD's look bad. They look great.

DVDFab as a complete package is hard to beat.

Again it is my opinion and I know what we say about those and I'm not dissing anyone who uses or DVDRebuilder as a software package.

Jim

I guess the other way to say this is this:

DVDFab is not under any obligation to have a product that outputs files compatiable with DVDRebuilder Glad it does, hope it does, its a good thing it does, hope it continues to produce standard files that can be used by 3rd party applications. But is it OBLIGATED to doing so? No, I'd say it isn't. It is required to do what it is suppose to do and that is stay true to itself which is its users can use it to produce backups of our DVD's with it. If it advertised itself to be a product that users of DVDRebuilder can use to create files from which DVDRebuilder can be used, ok, it would have an obligation to DVDRebuilder users. But that is not the market it targets itself to. It is firstly a one stop shopping kinda application.

I hope it continues to be a product DVDRebuilder users can utilize to rip copy protected DVD's to use DVDRebuilder to make a backup DVD. I wouldn't want it otherwise. At the same time I also hope that the authors don't get distracted from what DVDFab's primary target users have purchased the software for.

I've said it in other threads and I'll repeat myself here. The authors need to focus on making DVDFab stable for what it advertises itself to be. Once they have a stable product then support that stable product with copy protection scheme updates. After that is accomplished do whatever else they want with developmental version.

Making it work with DVDRebuilder is great. It really is. But IF doing so is taking away time and resources that need to be devoted to making it work as a stand alone one-stop application as advertised, than I would have an issue with the focus on DVDRebuilder. DVDFab has no primary obligation to be compatiable with DVDRebuilder.

Jim

I agree.. Well said

For direct to DVD9 compression wouldn't be necessary. Obviously one would re encode only if you are trying to take DVD9 down to DVD5 size. Sometimes one is lucky and when all the "unwanted extras" are removed the size will drop to DVD5 size. Not very often however. DVD-RB (or encoder of your choice) offers a nice compromise between having to burn a DL DVD at $1.50 or more a pop and a SL (high quality) DVD at $0.37 a pop and give reasonable image quality.

rcubedcuber

@jsmiddleton4

If you don't see a difference then don't use Rebuilder. I see a difference so I use it. It's like comparing Digital and Analog sound in the Hi-Fi world. Not everyone hears the difference. Use what *you* like.

As far as developing for Rebuilder, DVDFab is not the only software to support Rebuilder. Fengtao has to support it to remain competitive. I bought DVDFAb because it supported Rebuilder. If they stop the support I simply move on to the other software that does and they lose a customer.

Are you talking about the Fabhddecrypter? Or are you talking about DVD Fab Platnium?