DVDFab 4.0.1.6 Beta

this one caught my eye.
the question is i rip to hard drive useing new beta then use shrink and nero to burn the dvd. it plays in pc not player.
now i use verbs+r or ty-r been burning for a year now. but lately the end result does not play. how can we check for dvd compliant discs to play????

Some of these posts are a bit strange to me. Seems there are two camps here, one who doesn't see any relevance to whether a rip is to the DVD Compliant Standard or not and those that do (I also remember these same kind of two camp arguments regarding another ripping program that was alluded to in this thread). I am in the second camp. These senseless statements like "It's not DVDFab's job to make rips compatible with DVD Rebuilder". Well you might as well throw DVD Shrink in that statement too. Those two programs are similar in one thing. They both have to have DVD compliant material to work with from the beginning. If it's not, they don't work, which means something is wrong with the rip, not wrong with DVD Rebuilder or DVD Shrink. Some here have tried to turn that fact around somehow pointing fault that they work this way. It's the way they are supposed to work just as DVDFab is supposed to work. Any program that makes a rip should make a DVD compliant rip, period, not a rip that only works with it's proprietary program. The standard is there for a reason. Stray from the standard and only problems will develop from it. It's like trying to put a square in a round hole. What some statements here are really saying is, "It's not DVD Fabs job to make DVD compliant rips". Now that statement doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. Some people here though are really working overtime trying to make sense out of it. Seems some here are really getting defensive about DVDFab thinking when someone points out some issues, it's an attack on DVDFab. It is not. I have not seen any disrespect here for DVDFab, on the contrary, it's been praise even from the ones who are pointing these things out.

Again, DVD Rebuilder and DVD Shrink are not proprietary programs that only work with propriety material. They work with nothing but DVD Standard material. They can be looked at as check stations to determine if material is DVD compliant. Take the material and try opening it with either program. If the program's won't open it, it's not DVD compliant. It's just a plain fact and I don't know why so much time has been spent here trying to determine the relevance of that fact or try to turn that fact around to mean something else.

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Last edited by Mike89; 14-12-2007 at 09:15.

That is a good question. I had an old Toshiba DVD player (stand alone player, made in 1999, not installed in PC) that would not play either at all, or after repeatedly loaded and ejected it many, many, many times and then play from discs ripped using DVD Fab. No exaggeration. Was and still am using a Sony DRU-810 (BenQ) DVD burner in my PC. I bought a new Sony DVP-NS55P DVD player at Wal-Mart for $70 (stand alone) just because it was a Sony and was only $70. Figured what played in the PC DVD drive would play on another Sony DVD player.

Only exception: James Bond Casino Royale. Original DVD did not play on the stand alone Sony DVD player from start to finish without stopping. Solution was to rip and burn with Nero 6. New disc worked better than original disc.

This uncompliant issue will become really complicated. Easiest solution is to have matching DVD burner, DVD player and DVD media brands. Every disc I have works on both DVD burner and player. Most discs are from DVD Fab, some are DVD decrypter, rest are DVD Shrink. Best results achieved from Sony SL media. Worst results came from using Verbatium DVD+R DL. These discs are junk. Have had to rerip several movies. Sony DL media is less expensive and seems to be better.

Not sure how to prove my point without taking my discs and trying to play them on other non-Sony branded players. Not sure if it is non-compliance to a specific encoding standard or and issue with the firmware unable to identify the media specifically DVD-ROM (pressed at a factory) versus DVD+R, DVD-R, SL, DL media.

The Toshiba DVD player did not specifically state that it would play DVD+R, DVD-R media. It did sometimes, with some movies, but not all the time with just any movie. Did not matter if the disc was encoded with DVD Fab versions 3 or 4, or DVD Shrink, or DVD Decrypter. Factory pressed discs work every time.

The Sony DVP-NS55P DVD player states that it does play DVD+R, DVD-R media. Love the progressive scan on the HDTV at 480p. Love watching $0.40 SL DVD's. The $2.00 DL DVD's are movies that DVD Shrink could not do less than 70% compression to make them fit on DVD+R SL (4300K) media. Example would be Lord of the Rings.

Really love New Movie Tuesday. Store open at 11am, DVD Fab has completed before noon and a fresh burnt DVD ready by 12:30.

That's a bit of an unfair criticism.

I thought DrinkLyeAndDie's post was neutral, objective and very well worded.


Wombler

I can see your logic and whilst I've no doubt that it works for you, it's not necessary to have matching hardware/media.

The secret is top quality media such as Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim etc. allied with a good quality burner.

If you use the right media it will play well in all hardware and the discs will be less likely to suffer from degradation problems over time.


Wombler

You're right, it was.