Change DVD playback order Missing in Customize Mode

When I rip I like to select audio track, so I use "Customize" mode.
I also like to "change DVD playback order" so movies jump straight to main title while preserving the main menu, this is done in "Full Disc" mode. Annoying as it means I would have to process a disk twice.

I recently upgraded dvdfab to version 4.0.1.2 after seeing this:

Am I reading this wrong? I thought that in "Customize" mode I would have "Change DVD playback order" options like I do in "Full Disc" mode.

Not sure I fully understand your question, but if you want to select a specific audio track you'll still need to use "customize". Full Disk means Full Disk, it will get everything but you can now change the order a bit as long as PathPlayer is enabled.

I want to be able to select an audio track and change the order of dvd playback.

The above quote makes it sound that both tasks i want to accomplish are now possible in "Customize" mode.

But I can't see anything in "Customize" mode to "Change DVD playback order".

OK, select the "advanced title settings" button to change the playback order in customize mode.

To change the Title playback order, you have to select the No Menus option and use the Advanced Title Settings button as 90312 suggested. This will allow you to, for instance, play the studio logo, then the main movie, then an extra feature. To use the new "jump to.." features, you have to Enable PathPlayer and select Preserve Menus on the Customize screen.

in advance title set, menu does not appear. So a movie that's first play is "menu" will go to menu regardless of what order titles are in.

The move titles up/down is only active if No Menus is selected, so there is no menu and first play is the main titleset.

darn it.

Maybe they'll add it in future versions.

That's true, but select everything (check the boxes) then "advanced title settings" then you can shuffle things around they way you want. After selecting "No Menus". What am I missing here?

I want to:

preserve menu's
select audio tracks/deselect audio tracks
jump to main title when disk is inseted

You are correct, there is currently no way to do this (you can do everything EXCEPT jump to the main title). The logic in this I think was that if you preserve the menus, then you must want to use them, so it will jump to there but not to the movie.

no big deal really. thanks for your input.