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Samsung Writer Discuss, SH-S182D DVD-R Lead-In at CD and DVD Writers forum; Update: I have two DVDs here, both are backup of data, both in UDF. Yesterday, DVD1 has been readable, DVD2 not at all. Right now I copy data off DVD2, but when I insert DVD1 it's empty. Someone explain me this.

Old Posted: 28-12-2006
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Update: I have two DVDs here, both are backup of data, both in UDF.
Yesterday, DVD1 has been readable, DVD2 not at all.
Right now I copy data off DVD2, but when I insert DVD1 it's empty.

Someone explain me this.
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Old Posted: 28-12-2006
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Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Thank you all for the input to solving this awful problem for me with the SH-S182D.

First I tried firmware 3 and 4, no luck
Second firmware 1, no luck
Thirdly I swapped the floppy and molex power supply out of the back of the dvd rom and put it on its own power supply, and hey presto DVD-R burned first time

Hope this helps someone and good luck
Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Just updating my above post, the dvd-r burned ok using dvd decrypter.
I tried the same iso movie with Nero Express 7.0.1.2, and it failed on writing the lead-in.
Also tried vobs and data using Nero and again they both failed, coaster anyone?
Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Update Nero to latest 7.5.9.0A. http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/nero7-up.php

Nero 7.0.1.2 was nery buggy.
Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Thanks jbv, just tried the same successful iso with dvd decrypter and that failed too, unbelievable!!

Just trying the update link u gave me thanks, Will see if it makes any difference, not very optimistic though
Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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What's the mediacode of the media you are using.

Use Nero CD/DVD Speed to retrieve mediacode and post result.
Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Hi jbv, heres the media disc info made by Tuffdisc 8x dvd-r, also tried emtek 8x dvd-r.

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : CMC
MID : CMC MAG. AM3
Write speeds: : 2 X - 2 X - 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707321856 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 84 0D 12 98 99 90 00 - .@....R.........
0010 - 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 04 47 2E 20 41 4D 33 00 - .CMC.MA..G..AM3.
0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 E0 D4 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - ...............|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x..|....q..|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w........0...
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 18 D5 05 00 40 00 01 00 - ....0.......@...
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 20 D4 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 98 D5 05 00 - ........N.N.....
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CMC MAG. AM3 have caused a few problems in the past, though my Infiniti branded ones burn OK.

The fact that it's Tuffdisc branded means it's probably B or C grade CMC, unfortunately. So I'd say it's probably media related rather than the burner.

I had some Datawrite branded CMC discs (8x ones, CMC MAG. AE1) - out of 10 discs, 7 were coasters, no matter which burner I used.

Welcome to the forum BTW, evesham
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Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Hi Arachne fellow Englishman, thanks for the info.

Will dvd+r work in stand alone dvd drives in the uk or did I hear right they are all minus?

About to give up with this drive and use the old one on my other pc, 100% reliable liteon.

This one doesnt even detect the Emtek blanks, so until Samsung get there finger out, 16 coasters is enuff for my wall
Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Arachne's an Englishwoman, btw

Standalone compatibility is a crapshoot. Most of the current standalones will accept DVD-R, non-bitsetted DVD+R, and bitsetted DVD+R well.
If you have an older standalone, you may have more luck with DVD-R, or DVD+R bitset to DVD-ROM. Bitsetting is supported by Nero, ImgBurn, and other burning software on your drives.
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Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Hehe, Evilboy got there first

My two older players (both Philips) play +Rs just fine, even without bitsetting them to -ROM.

In fact, I tend to use mostly +R for everything LOL.

Oh BTW, if you have a Staples near you - they're doing 25 spindles of -/+R Verbatims (16x), buy one get one free - my Samsung loves them, even at 18x!
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Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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thanks evilboy.

Sorry for that arachne, my bad

Just looked online at the staples, good price for buy one get one free, but way too expensive £10.99 for 25 alone. I'm used to putting any old grade rubbish in the liteon

Anyway these things are sent to try us!!
Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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I think you should be fine with most stuff in the Sammy as long as it doesn't have Datawrite, Tuffdisc or Emtec written on it

Maxell +Rs (RICOHJPN R03) from Asda are working great in mine, not at 18x though (not supported at that speed).

Hehe, and don't worry about confusing me for a bloke, it seems to happen often on here
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Old Posted: 29-12-2006
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Just my luck to get discs that don't work!!
Think I'll get some +R's and bitsett them when burning to minus, before I start butting the wall

Thanks for all your help and lets hope Samsung release the sb05 firmware soon to solve this.
Old Posted: 03-01-2007
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Hi all, most of the problems with this DVD burner is resolved when a single length of power supply output from the PSU is dedicated solely for the DVD burner only. Do not use the other connectors on the length of power supply output from the PSU (dedicated for this DVD burner) on other devices.
Old Posted: 03-01-2007
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It sounds strange to me. Dont you think all PSU cables have the common point (wire)/per voltage?
Old Posted: 03-01-2007
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It is flakey because filtering capacitor value on +5V wire inside the drive is too small. As I wrote in my previous post, adding 3300 mkf right at the drive +5V pin (or near it through male to female adapter) makes DVD-R readable, removing it makes it unreadable again. It is 100% repeatable in my case. It could be some cases when there are other factors like specific IDE controllers or software problems. What is really strange that the problem is for DVD-R only, feels like software related, isn't it? Strange.
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It is flakey because filtering capacitor value on +5V wire inside the drive is too small. As I wrote in my previous post, adding 3300 mkf right at the drive +5V pin (or near it through male to female adapter) makes DVD-R readable, removing it makes it unreadable again. It is 100% repeatable in my case. It could be some cases when there are other factors like specific IDE controllers or software problems. What is really strange that the problem is for DVD-R only, feels like software related, isn't it? Strange.
Did you make that yourself or are they commercially available?
When using this, do you still have only this drive on the power lead from your PSU or does this device allow you to put other devices on the same power lead?

Great work!

Thanks
Old Posted: 04-01-2007
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Did you make that yourself or are they commercially available?
When using this, do you still have only this drive on the power lead from your PSU or does this device allow you to put other devices on the same power lead?

Great work!

Thanks
I did it myself, it is really easy. Use Y splitter for the power supply lead, cut off yellow and black wires for +12V really short, red and another black for +5V to the length about 1/2", solder 3300 microfarads 10V capacitor to these leads and shrink tube each wire for insulation (observe capacitor polarity). Place capacitor on the header closest to the DVDR drive if you can. Capacitance and voltage are not important, I used what I had laying around. You can use, for example, 2200 microfarads 6V (rating must be greater than 5V). I used it with external power supply, but it should work on any lead inside the computer, other devices should be OK. Reason for using splitter is that there's no need to cut wires on your power supply header. You can solder capacitor to the header wires going to the drive if you want.
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I bought the Mad Dog version of this drive today, and I'm quite pleased with it. It came pre-loaded with the SB03 firmware, so the DVD-R I experimented with burned perfectly. Further, this driver is whisper-silent, even more quiet than the Plextor PX-716A it replaced which to some is a reference model. All-in-all, although I'm not a pro when it comes to determining PIE and PIF quality, it seems as if this driver is a winner.

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Old Posted: 29-01-2007
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Hi,

It's my first post here and I'd like to thank you all because I solved the problem with my SH-S182D!!
I did the capacitor trick with a 2200uF/16V and it worked fine, I could read all DVD-R I burned and couldn't play in drive itself before!
Old Posted: 07-02-2007
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Welcome rmr2k7 and glad it worked for you.
Having tried every option, i.e firmware, single psu supply, DVD+, DVD-, the only option for me was to RMA in exchange for a flawless BenQ, Goodbye piece of cr*p
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Welcome rmr2k7 and glad it worked for you.
Having tried every option, i.e firmware, single psu supply, DVD+, DVD-, the only option for me was to RMA in exchange for a flawless BenQ, Goodbye piece of cr*p

dream on.
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Thanks for all the efforts guys. I was all set to push the button on a Samsung 18X at Newegg. You saved me a ton a grief.
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