Old 15-02-2010   #76
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

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Another one burned with SH-S223B. This is better than the previous burn with LITE-ON LH-20A1S.
Doesn't look bad at all. You're right to run a transfer rate test any time you're worried about the quality of your burn. Sometimes a read-back test is a better indicator of a decent or bad burn than a quality scan. Use your quality scan to help find the best burn speed for each batch of discs.
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Old 15-02-2010   #77
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What do you think of this burn at 12x with SH-S223B (SB02)? It does not seem very bad to me, but I am not if the drive is reliable for this test.
Hi kyrcy. This is a good result. My own 223B works well at x12, and can be reliable up to x18. At x20 it gives occasional coasters, at x22 it fails almost every other time. And this is the best 223B I've tested and the one I kept, all others were returned. With some modern burners (which are capable of burning at x20 or more) the strategies are optimized for speed, meaning that you could get better quality scans when you burn at x16 or at x18, or even at x20, rather than at x12. Still, it depends on a combination of media, drive model and firmware. The 223C units I tested for example, sucked with MCC 004 at all speeds, and gave coasters even at x8 or x12 with this media. They also have all been returned for refunds...

Like deanwitty said, sometimes you'll get a better idea of what's readable with a tranfer test, as quality scan reliability can vary between scanners.

Your MCC002 burns are OK - that spike you get in the middle spoils it, but they should still be fully readable in most devices.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

How do you run quality tests? CD-Speed and Opti Drive Control say the drive doesn't support that test.
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How do you run quality tests? CD-Speed and Opti Drive Control say the drive doesn't support that test.
You need to apply some registry modifications. See the FAQ mentioned in my signature.

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Thanks for the reply. I tried the registry tweaks by still no luck. It starts and tries but ends up with an error stating that the drive doesn't support the test.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

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Thanks for the reply. I tried the registry tweaks by still no luck. It starts and tries but ends up with an error stating that the drive doesn't support the test.
What specific model drive do you own?
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

Burns with my SH-S223C seem to score not worse than burns with my SH-223B which are not bad. What do you think about the following result?
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

Well I plugged in an old lite-on DVD-RW I had laying around somewhere and ran a scan. I got very similar results to kyrcy's, except for the spikes at the end. It wasn't too bad at all but it's the first burn from the drive and the first media from the MCC-004 (made in United Arab Emirates) spindle. More scans will follow. Thanks.
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New scan today..

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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

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New scan today..

At what write speed?
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

I think these results are not bad considering, even at a writing speed of 16x or less.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

That's what I think too. So happy burning for me.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

One more burn at 12x with SH-S223B. Not bad I think.
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One more burn at 12x with SH-S223B. Not bad I think.
agreed.
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My own 223B can happily do well up to x16. Sometimes it gives coasters at x18, and the coasters multiply when you burn all the way up to MAX (x22). And it was not the only unit to display such inability to accurately burn to the end at full advertised speed with some of the best media in the market. I can only put it down to possible sloppy quality control at the factory which may have resulted in certain batches of these drives reaching the shop shelves, when they should have never left the factory. But this is only my estimation on how it may have happened. If this is the case, then it's something that you can't just fix with firmware updates. You're looking at partial batch recalls and RMAs.

Also remember that most novice users - who know next to nothing about optical disc burning - will most likely burn at MAX and expect their files to be at least readable. Almost all the 223B and 223C units that me my colleagues tested produced an extremely high percentage of coasters at full speed, and with best quality media. Whatever it was, they seem to have fixed it with the new generation of x24 drives, these can burn at maximum with very good results.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

Firmware SB03 for SH-S223C has been released.

http://www.samsungodd.com/Eng/Firmwa...t_code=&os_no=

Haven't upgraded yet, but I am wondering if this really improves burns.
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Firmware SB03 for SH-S223C has been released.

http://www.samsungodd.com/Eng/Firmwa...t_code=&os_no=

Haven't upgraded yet, but I am wondering if this really improves burns.
Thanks for the headsup.
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Hi everyone and thanks for your efforts,
Now is there any difference made by the new SB03 to burning quality.
why nobody test the new firmware.
i bought one of the Samsung SH-S223C and had difficulty reading DVD9, do u think the new firmware will help.

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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

A burn with SH-S223C and firmware SB03 at 12x. Results not much different from burns with firmware SB02.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

1st burn with SH-S223C SB02.

Verbatim 8x +R ( MCC003 ) burned at 12x. A bit slow 12x = 7:03

The quality is good.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

SH-S223C SB02

Some burns at 12x ( SONY16D1 ) and 4x ( SONYD21 - 12x was selected )
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

SH-S223C SB02

Sony DVD+R DL ( MKM001 ) burned at 4x ( only speed available )
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

http://www.samsungodd.com/Eng/Firmwa...t_code=&os_no=

Firmware SB04 for SH-S223C has been released.
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Re: Samsung SH-S223B/SH-S223C testing and observations

Already posted at Samsung Firmware updates thread. http://club.myce.com/f105/post-new-f...ml#post2524645
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