Problem with Taiyo Yuden DVD-R and Samsung SH-S203

Samsung Writer Discuss, Problem with Taiyo Yuden DVD-R and Samsung SH-S203 at CD and DVD Writers forum; I've recently built a new PC with Vista Home Premium and the Samsung SH-S203. I used Nero V7.9.6.0 to burn a few data old DVD-R disks that I had with no problems. However I have just bought some new Taiyo Yuden unbranded disks and have had my first three burns

Posted: 24-07-2007

TeresaTunnell (New on Forum): Posts: 19

I've recently built a new PC with Vista Home Premium and the Samsung SH-S203. I used Nero V7.9.6.0 to burn a few data old DVD-R disks that I had with no problems. However I have just bought some new Taiyo Yuden unbranded disks and have had my first three burns all come out as coasters. Nero just reports a write failure and when I tried to save a copy of the log my PC virtually locked up.

Before I start stabbing around in the dark to get these disks to work and creating loads more coasters, is there a way that I can find out whether these disks are supported by the Samsung drive firmware and by Nero? I can't seem to find detailed information on either Samsung's or Nero's web sites.

DVDInfoPro reports one of my failed disks as:

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG03
UDF Format Type V1.02
UDF Volume Name New
UDF Application id
UDF Implementation id Nero
UDF Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 7/24/2007 10:14:45
Format Capacity 4.22GB(4.53GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CAV 20.0x 27700KBps
Available Write Descriptor CAV 18.0x 24930KBps
Available Write Descriptor CAV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CAV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 09
2x Write Strategy field 1 15 A9 9A 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 07
4x Speed OPC power 11
4x Write Strategy field 1 0C 10 0B 06
4x Write Strategy field 2 95 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 08
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 16
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 96 88 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 B7 89 33 83 30 33
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 21C4BFh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 84 0D 11 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 90 00 03 54 59 47 30 33 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG03......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 A8 82 00 20 00 02 00 06 09 09 15 ........ .......

I'd really appreciate any help.

Thank you,

Teresa

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Posted: 24-07-2007

TeresaTunnell (New on Forum): Posts: 19

Just tried another burn at 16x. I managed to save a log file but Nero.exe was running at over 90% CPU usage and locking up my system.

The log file:

Code:

Windows XP 6.0
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
 Nero Version: 7.10.1.0
Internal Version: 7, 10, 1, 0

Recorder:             Version: SB00 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.10.1.0
 Adapter driver:                           HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM:               Version: 2.0B - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.10.1.0
 Adapter driver:                          HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : Volume0                        iaStorV Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B       iaStorV Port 0 ID 1  DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral      : YQ0641I LKD812K         2.0B  a1qacaev Port 2 ID 0  DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B   E:   CdRom0
YQ0641I LKD812K            J:   CdRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 2047MB (2097151kB)
Free physical memory: 1622MB (1661572kB)
Memory in use       : 47 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

24.7.2007
ISO compilation
12:42:48	#1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
	LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL
	
12:42:49	#2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6666
	Iso document burn settings
	------------------------------------------
	Determine maximum speed : FALSE
	Simulate                : FALSE
	Write                   : TRUE
	Finalize CD             : TRUE
	Multisession            : FALSE
	Burning mode            : DAO
	Mode                    : 1
	ISO Level               : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
	Character set           : ISO 9660
	Joliet                  : TRUE
	Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
	Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
	Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
	
12:42:49	#3 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3343
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
12:42:49	#4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3508
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
	
12:42:49	#5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 307
	Last possible write address on media:  2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
	Last address to be written:            2099247 (466:29.72, 4100MB)
	
12:42:49	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 319
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
12:42:49	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2972
	Recorder: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B, Media type: DVD-R
	 Disc Manufacturer: TYG03 - 
	 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
	
12:42:49	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 493
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
12:42:49	#9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 793
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 2099248 (2099248) = #2099248/466:29.73
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2099248 blocks [E: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
12:42:50	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 995
	Prepare [E: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:                                  Idx 0         Idx 1      Next Trk
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    4299259904, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 ___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
	        0 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
	        0 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
	        0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 |  2099248 |        0 | 0x00
	  2099248 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
	
12:42:50	#11 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 215
	SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
	
12:42:50	#12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4294
	Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)
	
12:42:50	#13 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
	Caching of files started
	
12:42:50	#14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4413
	Cache writing successful.
	
12:42:50	#15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
	Caching of files completed
	
12:42:50	#16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
	Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)
	
12:42:50	#17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2721
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
12:42:50	#18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3225
	Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
	
12:42:50	#19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3381
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
12:42:50	#20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9872
	---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate:  (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	  Revision number of maximum recording speed: 6.0
	  Revision number of minimum recording speed: -
	  Revision number table of recording speed: 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 - - 
	  Class: 0
	  Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
	  Start sector number of the next Border-In:     0 h
	 Media Specific [16..63]:
	    00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00    .`...0@P...!....
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	
12:42:50	#21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 269
	Pipe memory size 83836800
	
12:43:02	#22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1352
	12:43:02.820 - E: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B : Queue again later
	
12:47:57	#23 SPTI -1135 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 179
	CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1135)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x0C
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x2A 00 00 1E F8 C0 00 00 20 00 00 00 
	Sense Area: 0x71 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 
	Buffer x1c32ca40: Len x10000
	0xBD F1 2F 64 55 FE E8 6E DF 3A 8B 2F 75 4A 09 9E 
	0xA7 2D 27 3C A4 71 42 E8 87 6C 30 A8 1F 66 01 A8 
	0xE3 FA 87 D7 53 E1 C9 63 7D 9B E1 88 C4 00 6B 71 
	
12:47:57	#24 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 303
	Write error
	E: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B
	
12:47:58	#25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3783
	EndDAO: Last written address was 2029759 (1EF8BFh)
	
12:48:07	#26 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
	Burn process failed at 16x (22,160 KB/s)
	
12:48:11	#27 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 261
	SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
	
12:48:15	#28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11185
	DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed
	
12:48:16	#29 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
	UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL
	

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon

Thanks,

Teresa

Last edited by mciahel; 24-07-2007 at 15:40. Reason: put Nero log in code-tags

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Posted: 24-07-2007

mciahel (Senior Moderator): Posts: 13,679

Hi and Welcome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeresaTunnell

Just tried another burn at 16x. I managed to save a log file but Nero.exe was running at over 90% CPU usage and locking up my system.

Then there is something seriously wrong if Nero nearly fails to save its log file.

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=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Volume0 iaStorV Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B iaStorV Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : YQ0641I LKD812K 2.0B a1qacaev Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

I marked the possible problem in bold letters.
Seems you are running an Intel based system with SATA controllers set to AHCI or even RAID. Both operating modes are not compatible with ODD operation.
As first step please try to change the driver for the controller your Samsung is attached to to MS default drivers (if possible).
Or change the operating mode of your SATA controller in BIOS setup to "IDE compatible" unless you are running a RAID.

Uninstalling the virtual CD drive software is also a good idea for troubleshooting.

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Posted: 24-07-2007

TeresaTunnell (New on Forum): Posts: 19

Thank you for your reply, Michael. Unfortunately I am running two SATA hard drives in a RAID0 configuration. I don't really want to remove RAID, especially as I would have to rebuild my system.

I have had about half a dozen successful burns on other media but it does seem that this could be a SATA set up problem.

I'll try uninstalling the virtual drive and see if that makes any difference.

My motherboard is an MSI P965 Platinum and supports SATA RAID on an Intel ICH8R chipset. It does have a separate JMicron controller, JMB361, which supports a SATA port and an IDE port but I've read about problems with this controller.

I'm a bit out of my depth here but I need my DVD writer working.

Teresa

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Posted: 24-07-2007

TeresaTunnell (New on Forum): Posts: 19

Just did another burn without any virtual drives and it failed again. The log file shows DMA is off for the drive.

What do I do now?

Teresa

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Posted: 24-07-2007

mciahel (Senior Moderator): Posts: 13,679

Hi,

so the drive is fine with other media? Hmm.

Are these DVD-R also or are they DVD+R?

Since your HDDs are running in a RAID, then indeed switching the operating mode is no option. As I am not familiar with Intel RAID, I can't help further. Maybe there is some config tool that help, but I don't know. You might check Intel website in order to get further information.

Also, you should still try the Jmicron: set it to IDE (non RAID) and let Windows install its default drivers. Maybe that works.

About DMA=Off in the Nero log: Nero reports all drives as DMA=Off if they are run by manufacturer's drivers.

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Posted: 24-07-2007

TeresaTunnell (New on Forum): Posts: 19

I may have burnt the other media at 8x. I wonder if that would make a difference?

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Posted: 25-07-2007

zhadoom (MyCE Resident): Posts: 1,271

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeresaTunnell

I may have burnt the other media at 8x. I wonder if that would make a difference?

With DMA off the burn will suffer from continuous buffer underruns and the time needed to a full burn will increase too much.

Excessive buffer underruns makes the drives to fallback the speed ( slower )and may degrade the quality of the burn.

A possible solution is to acquire a SATA PCI or SATA PCI-E card. ( with Vista support

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Posted: 25-07-2007

gonzos-revenge (MyCE Rookie): Posts: 43

I agree with mciahel. Just give the Jmicron a try.
Install the IDE driver -not raid- for the Jmicron and see what happens.
MSI is offering the driver on their gobal website. There´s also a cd-rom DOS driver for
the Jmicron, so I thing the controller is able to handle ODDs.

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Posted: 25-07-2007

TeresaTunnell (New on Forum): Posts: 19

I'm going to try the JMicron today and if that doesn't work, I'll get a SATA PCI card.

Thanks for the help.

Teresa

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Posted: 25-07-2007

mciahel (Senior Moderator): Posts: 13,679

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzos-revenge

I agree with mciahel. Just give the Jmicron a try.
Install the IDE driver -not raid- for the Jmicron and see what happens.

I'd try MS default drivers before going the way with Jmicron drivers.

Michael

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Posted: 25-07-2007

TeresaTunnell (New on Forum): Posts: 19

I've enabled the JMicron controller, connected up my Samsung DVD, booted up Vista which loaded it's own drivers and Sandra Lite shows DMA enabled. I did a 16X burn which completed successfully and Nero CD-DVD Speed gave the following scan results:

General Information
Drive: TSSTcorpCDDVDW SH-S203B
Firmware: SB00
Disc: DVD-R (TYG03)
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 15
Average: 1.11
Total: 18305
PI failures
Maximum: 2
Average: 0.00
Total: 479
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 9:21
Number of samples: 123200
Average scanning interval: 1.07 ECC
Glitches removed: 0

I'm not very knowledgeable on scan results but I think this is a respectable result.

I'm so relieved that this has worked.

Thanks for all the help,

Teresa

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Posted: 25-07-2007

mciahel (Senior Moderator): Posts: 13,679

Hi,

that looks good

Glad, you got it working

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Posted: 25-07-2007

ghetocowboy (CDFreaks Resident): Posts: 3,303

Other media only burnt at 8X and thus does not require much bandwidth. Your TYG03 is best burnt at 20X under that drive and your controller has the DMA turned off and thus it is the bottle neck. This is the reason why I am so affraid to get an SATA burner since most burners, even using SATA interface, but technologically acts like an IDE and thus not complete compatable with SATA controllers because SATA controller makers dont want to address this issue, it can be fix with the driver that address this issue but they ignore it and thus the optical drive companies suffer for making SATA drives

Glad that your problem is solved. I have Asus P5B Deluxe, it is using P965 as well and I am running raid as well, it also has the JMICRON controllers but I disable it. Too reluctant to try SATA drives

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