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Samsung Writer Discuss, FINALLY! New at the Egg Samsung SH-202's at CD and DVD Writers forum; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151151 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151153 In both PATA and SATA flavors. No Lightscribe yet. Dual Layer speeds only 12X. If the writing quality matches the 203B...should be very good drives Bob

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Posted: 31-07-2007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151151

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151153

In both PATA and SATA flavors. No Lightscribe yet. Dual Layer speeds only 12X. If the writing quality matches the 203B...should be very good drives

Bob
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Posted: 31-07-2007
I just ordered one for 30.99 I will take my chances. LOL. PATAhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151151
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Let us know how it turns out
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Hope someone can change the name of this thread because the "202 SATA" drive OT linked to at newegg indeed is a SH-S203 according to fairplay.
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bobmitch (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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Posted: 01-08-2007
The SATA drive listed at Newegg only does 12X Dual Layer....the 203B does 16X...are you sure about that?
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Posted: 01-08-2007
When alan1476 and I (among others) get ours on Friday we can help confirm one way or another if they are shipping the 203B like fairplay got.
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Posted: 01-08-2007
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Originally Posted by bobmitch
The SATA drive listed at Newegg only does 12X Dual Layer....the 203B does 16X...are you sure about that?
Think you got it wrong.
DoubleLayer is 12x* max. (Figure 16.2MB/s might been confusing some though.)
SH-S203 specs from Samsung, linky.
* Still not sure this is the write or read speed.
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DVD Writers
SH-S203
		
20x Super-WriteMaster™ DVD Writer (S-ATA interface)

This product is available in a model with LightScribe (direct disc labeling technology) and a model without this technology
	
Features
This product is available in a model with LightScribe (direct disc labeling technology) and a model without this technology
DVD±R/RW and DVD-RAM Drive is a new innovative product which provides powerfull data storage
Lead free: Eco-product
Magic Speed Function: optional low-noise setting
Double Layer DVD+/-R 12x
Double OPC (Optimum Power Control) Technology
SAT: Automatically adjusts the speed optimized for the disc quality
Tilt Actuator Compensation Technology
Buffer Under Run Free Technology
LightScribe - direct disc labelingtechnology

Specifications
Data Transfer Rate Read CD: 7.2 MB/sec (48x)
Data Transfer Rate Read DVD: 21.6 MB/sec (16x)
Data Transfer Rate Write on DVD-R: 27.0 MB/sec (20x)
Data Transfer Rate Write on DVD+R: 27 MB/sec (20x)
Data Transfer Rate Write on DVD-RW: 8.1 MB/sec (6x)
Data Transfer Rate Write on DVD+RW: 10.8 MB/sec (8x)
Double Layer: 16.2 MB/sec (12x)
Data Transfer Rate Write on DVD-RAM: 16.2 MB/sec (12x)
Burst Transfer Rate PIO Mode 4: (16.7 MB/sec)
Burst Transfer Rate Ultra DMA Mode 2: (33.3 MB/sec)
Recording Capacity CD-RW Disc: 6.0 MB/sec (40x)
Recording Capacity CD-R Disc: 7.2 MB/sec (48x)
Average Seek Time DVD-ROM: 130ms
Average Seek Time CD-ROM: 110ms
Drive Type: Intern
Interface: S-ATA 1.5 GBps
Dimensions (WxHxDmm): 148.2 x 42 x 170: with bezel
Buffer Memory: 2MB
Supported Disc: DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-ROM,DVD-Video, DVD+R (Dual), DVD-R (Dual), DVD-RAM, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, CD+E(G), CD-MIDI, CD-TEXT, CD-ROM XA, Mixed Mode CD CD-I, CD-I Bridge (Photo-CD, Video-CD), Multisession CD (Photo-CD, CD-EXTRA, Portforio).
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Posted: 01-08-2007
The SH-S203B writes DVD+R DL @16x and DVD-R DL @12x
According to the box.
It does indeed read both formats at 12x
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Originally Posted by Dee-27
The SH-S203B writes DVD+R DL @16x and DVD-R DL @12x
According to the box.
It does indeed read both formats at 12x
Wooow Dee-27...
Now I just have to find some 16x rated +DL media. (S203 drive on way in.)
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Now I just have to find some 16x rated +DL media. (S203 drive on way in.)
If you find some (Ricoh the only one so far) let me know, i'm also looking for some.
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Posted: 02-08-2007
Can the drive write -R 16x media at 12x??


Thanks
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^ It should. But writes it with a slow CAV strategy at 12x
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Posted: 03-08-2007
Thanks Dee, I have quite a few 16x -R mids that I think can write acceptably at 12x so that is good, it's still faster than 8x.

I hope I get my drive in the morning Friday then I will have a few hours to make some scans.
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I just got mine and I have to say I am a little disapointed. It will only burn 2 media at 20X. Yuden000-T03-000 and TYG03. The drive is fast. I will post a VSO log below.
8/2/2007 5:44:48 PM info F8 key click: Open temporary log file
8/2/2007 5:44:47 PM info Writer: Media removed. Burning layer not ready to write
8/2/2007 5:44:43 PM info Folder "C:\Documents and Settings\ALAN\Local Settings\Application Data\ 1Click DVD Copy Pro\Temp" deleted
8/2/2007 5:44:43 PM info Copy completed.
8/2/2007 5:44:43 PM info Writer: Finalization Time 00:00:38 - Total completion time 00:04:56
8/2/2007 5:44:05 PM info Writer: Write finished in 00:04:18 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 14.16
8/2/2007 5:40:00 PM info Writer: Lead-in burning time (mS) 0
8/2/2007 5:39:46 PM info Writer: Write started 2253408 sectors to write
8/2/2007 5:39:46 PM info Writer: Writing speed requested x20.0, effective x20.0
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Writer: Available write speed: 20x, 18x, 16x, 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Writer: Media ID: YUDEN000-T03-00
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Writer: Media type: DVD+R
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Writer: Ultra DMA mode 4 (ATA66)
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Available Virtual Memory : 1942 MB.
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Total Virtual Memory : 2047 MB.
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Memory Load : 16%
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Available Physical Memory : 2047 MB.
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Total Physical Memory : 2047 MB.
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Writer: Scanned files #9, folder #2 - total size 4613867520 b. (4.3 Gb.)
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Writer: Inserted media type : DVD+R
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Writer: Write started
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Volume name SLOW_BURN
8/2/2007 5:39:45 PM info Source path for burning "C:\Documents and Settings\ALAN\Local Settings\Application Data\ 1Click DVD Copy Pro\Temp\SLOW_BURN\VIDEO_TS"
8/2/2007 5:39:43 PM info Writer: New media inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
8/2/2007 5:39:42 PM info Writer: Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
8/2/2007 5:39:42 PM info Writer: New Drive selected : 0:1:0 - TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202G SB00 [G] (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:39:41 PM info Writer: Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 - Async. Access mode
8/2/2007 5:39:41 PM info IFO reallocation not required
8/2/2007 5:39:41 PM info Transcoding time: 0:07:08
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Transcoding started...
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Targeted destination size 4463 Mb.
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 8 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 7 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 6 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 5 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 4 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 3 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 2 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Menu of Titleset 1 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Video Manager Menu Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 8 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 7 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 6 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 5 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 4 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 3 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 2 Removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Subtitle #2 (English) is removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Subtitle #1 (Español) is removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Subtitle #0 (English) is removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Audio #2 (English AC3 2ch, director's comments) is removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Audio #1 (English AC3 2ch) is removed
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Audio #0 (English AC3 6ch) is included
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Titleset 1 Included, Video reduced to 93% of original size
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Transcoding started ...
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Overall Video Compression: 7.0%
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Working Folder has "130139 Mb." of free space
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Working Folder : C:\Documents and Settings\ALAN\Local Settings\Application Data\1Click DVD Copy Pro
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Destination : [G] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202G SB00 (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Source size : 6.2420 GB
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Source : [F] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A 1.01 (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Preset: Movie Only - Feature movie, remove extras (Excellent)
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Dual Layer Media: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Movie Only Menus: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Keep Subtitles: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Prefer DTS Audio: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Enable media stats collection - VSO: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Turn off computer after burn: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Delete temporary files: TRUE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Warn before erasing RW media: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Allow DVD tray eject: TRUE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Prompt for another copy of the same source: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Preferred Burn Speed: Max
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info DVD-R Write Mode: Default - Let burn engine decide
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Save Menu Preset: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info Show Hint popups: TRUE
8/2/2007 5:32:33 PM info START button clicked
8/2/2007 5:32:00 PM info Volume name: SLOW_BURN
8/2/2007 5:31:57 PM info CPRx error correction enabled : FALSE
8/2/2007 5:31:57 PM info CPRx error correction is required.
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info Resetting destination to: [E] BENQ DVD DD DW1640 BSLB (Ide) - Ultra DMA mode 2 (ATA33)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info Destination does not exist: [F] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202G SB00 (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info Source: [E] BENQ DVD DD DW1640 BSLB (Ide) - Ultra DMA mode 2 (ATA33)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info COPYTODVD: 4.0.4.60
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info DVD2DVD: 5.5.0.0 VSO_HWE: 2.1.3.324 BOUDUCON: 1.7.2.17
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info AnyDVD Safe Mode: FALSE
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info AnyDVD process detected: 6.1.6.7
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [N] HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-2166D 1.01 (Usb)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [M] BENQ DVD DD EW164B BEFB (Firewire)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [L] BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCDB (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [G] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202G SB00 (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [F] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A 1.01 (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [E] BENQ DVD DD DW1640 BSLB (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info Loading reader listbox
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [N] HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-2166D 1.01 (Usb)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [M] BENQ DVD DD EW164B BEFB (Firewire)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [G] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202G SB00 (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [F] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A 1.01 (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [L] BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCDB (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info [E] BENQ DVD DD DW1640 BSLB (Ide)
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info Loading writer listbox
8/2/2007 5:31:49 PM info Read access layer: Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.37, Internal revision 37 - Async. Access mode
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info Update Notification enabled : TRUE
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info AutoPlay setting: Enabled
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info Version 3.0.0.0
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info ExeName : "C:\Program Files\LG Software Innovations\1Click DVD Copy Pro\1ClickDvdCopyPro.exe"
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
8/2/2007 5:31:48 PM info ******************** Report session started ****************
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kagato6 (New on Forum)
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Hi,

I am planning to purchase this Samsung SH-202g drive at newegg, but I'm afraid it has riplock which would limit DVD movie ripping.
Can anyone who purchased it let me know if it has riplock? Also, about what speed do you get usually get when ripping DVD movies??
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wlfwood (New on Forum)
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Posted: 06-08-2007
Hi kagato

From what all I've read, no Samsung drives have riplock. You can see that from the many reviews (18x drives) in the read performance section. I'm doubtful that Samsung will ever add that function (I am speculating on this). Just don't buy an LG if your worried about a riplock, all LGs seem to have it.

As far as actual ripping speed goes, it depends mostly on the media, whether or not it is dual layer. When ripping dual layer there is an inherent slow down when it gets to the second layer (with any drive).

I hope this helps.
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The 18x drives have slower readback speeds for at the least single layer DVD +-R media. The 20x drives don't seem to "suffer" from this, though, and other members report no riplock on their drives. But for pressed SL and DL media, the speeds were already 16x and 8x in the 18x drives, respectively. Maybe other members can tell you if pressed DL media is read at 12x in the new drives as it is in the Lite-On drives.
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kagato6 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 07-08-2007
Awesome!
I just went ahead and bought the SATA 203g. I didn't want to waste money on something that might've had riplock. Thanks for the info guys!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alan1476
I just got mine and I have to say I am a little disapointed. It will only burn 2 media at 20X. Yuden000-T03-000 and TYG03...
...And a few more alan1476...
Note, they can even be more once we learn to know what "fast speed" function really means.
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Anyone know if this drive supports bitsetting?
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