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Decreasing Device Buffer+automatic WRITING speed-ImgBurn:(

Hallo Friends...

First place-excuse me my crocky English.
I use ImgBurn for a long time -perfect program for burning iso files.
I had old PC compilation-far worse than i have now,but in that old compil.ran ImgBurn much better than in this newer compiplation

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CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo E7400, LGA 775,2.8 GHz, FSB 1066 MHz,Cache 3 MB*
VGA: Asus EAH 4670 , 512MB DDR3,HDMI*
RAM:Kingston 2GB, DDR2,800 MHz*
HDD:Samsung SATA II 500 GB,7200 ot.,Cache 16 MB*
Zdroj:SAGA II 500 W*
DVDRW TSSTcorp.SH-S223C -SATA II* I prefer media Verbatim writing max.8x
OS:Windows 7 32 bit*

What ran better in old compil.?
DEVICE BUFFER,MAIN BUFFER WERE filled on 100% all the time and WRITING SPEED was exactly 8x all the time -
but now is generally Device buffer very variable and WRITING SPEED also.
Sometimes,displays alarm message-waiting for buffer recovery,hard disk activity...and WRITING SPEED stops.
Such another film dvd makes problems,when I put it in DVD Player,film slows in that place..

Where is conspiracy :huh:

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Re: Decreasing Device Buffer+automatic WRITING speed-ImgBurn:(

Hi and Welcome!

assuming your Sata controller is in IDE mode, please check if DMA is enabled. Please report back the current transfer mode. See here for instructions: http://club.myce.com/f61/troubleshoo...-me-9x-101616/

If I was wrong with that assumption, then install latest drivers for your Sata controller obtainable from Intel website.

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assuming your Sata controller is in IDE mode, please check if DMA is enabled. Please report back the current transfer mode. See here for instructions: http://club.myce.com/f61/troubleshoo...-me-9x-101616/

If I was wrong with that assumption, then install latest drivers for your Sata controller obtainable from Intel website.

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Hi mciahel

This is look on device manager
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-so Ultra DMA 5 is OK

I have updated SB02 firmware for TSST,but its the same.

Pls,help me with
latest drivers for Sata controller

P.S.
Which of DVDRW WRITERS at the market can test quality of burned dvd (PI/PIF)?

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This is look on device manager

-so Ultra DMA 5 is OK
Good.

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I have updated SB02 firmware for TSST,but its the same.
Well, the problem is not firmware related. Either there is some compatibility problem or some hardware is faulty.
Could be also some software that is interfering (like copy protection stuff from games, videos or music; or like some other tools as virtual discs etc.)

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latest drivers for Sata controller
1. INF drivers
2. Storage drivers

If the newer drivers don't work for you, then I'd try another Sata port, and also another cable.

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Which of DVDRW WRITERS at the market can test quality of burned dvd (PI/PIF)?
In theory, your Sammy should do that job. Check the FAQ, it's mentioned there
Other "scanner" drives are Liteon and Optiarc.

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1. INF drivers
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-Ok,I have it,thanks.
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2. Storage drivers
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-That Pc is ot of minimal requirements
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If the newer drivers don't work for you, then I'd try another Sata port, and also another cable.
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-Sata port 1 - DVDRW
Sata port 2 - HDD

Is That sequence important?
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In theory, your Sammy should do that job. Check the FAQ, it's mentioned there
Other "scanner" drives are Liteon and Optiarc.
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I was trying KProbe,OptiDriveControl,Nero...but test didn’t start up.

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Don't worry about the slowdown or the drop of the buffer, thats something usual for all drives.

As mciahel said check the FAQ on the samsung forum to see how to enable the scanning on your samsung drive, i remember that you need to do something in the registry.
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-Sata port 1 - DVDRW
Sata port 2 - HDD

Is That sequence important?
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Normally not, but in some case it does help.
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I was trying KProbe,OptiDriveControl,Nero...but test didn’t start up.
Unfortunately I was wrong with my assumption about the scanning capabilities of the 223C: http://club.myce.com/f105/223b-223c-...2/#post2463224
This drive has a different chipset, no Mediatek.

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1.
All the time - I am in search of - How i can discover,what causes a variaton in DeviceBuffer-most probably?

-Win 7?
-TSST corp.SH-S223C?
-Dvd Medium (Verbatim DVD-R)?
-problem with SATA connection?
-HDD:Samsung SATA II 500 GB,7200 ot.,Cache 16 MB?

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Which of DVDRW WRITERS at the market can test quality of burned dvd (PI/PIF)?
This?

http://mobilpc.ekatalog.biz/zbozi/dv...px?p=z:154487&

Because, salespeople say me, that chipset mediatek isn’t in new DVD writers
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Re: Decreasing Device Buffer+automatic WRITING speed-ImgBurn:(

These little buffer dips shouldn't be much of a problem. It happens from time to time, and some drives (like Optiarc) even tend to display buffer as 0% while doing such a power calibration slowdown.

Actually, the most popular scanning burners are LiteOn. If you get the iHASn24, please make sure it is the "iHASn24 A" not the "iHASn24 Y" model. The iHASn24 A come with a Mediatek chipset.

Also, some other Samsung DVD burners can scan and recent Optiarc burners can scan, too, although not as popular as LiteOn and probably less accurate. Avoid LG, they won't scan at all.
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This is fresh-burned dvd (from iso with ImgBurn)

Burned,slowly, only with speed 8x.

It is not possible,...Write Buffer,Write RPM +Write speed go down.

What betrays me?

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Re: Decreasing Device Buffer+automatic WRITING speed-ImgBurn:(

Yes it is possible, if the drive decides that the best burn speed at that point is a slower one, it will slow down, it's nothing to worry about unless you are getting this slowdown every time with all your dvd's.
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Yes it is possible, if the drive decides that the best burn speed at that point is a slower one, it will slow down, it's nothing to worry about unless you are getting this slowdown every time with all your dvd's.
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old PC compilation with win xp (far worse than i have now),didn’t doofer...
It always burned with speed 8x (exactly)down-the-line, and device buffer was caseful (always 100%....max -2%)

Dvd with film-display image sometimes slow down,when I burn such dvd.
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Hi,

the buffer drop down as shown in the picture is quite normal, usually due to the power calibration done by the drive. What I do not like is the speed drop from 8x to 4x. I agree this should not happen with genuine Verbatim branded MCC stuff.
This problem seems to be unrelated to the rest of your system configuration. So, for some reasons your drive has problems with these discs. Perhaps the new SB03 firmware (published a few days ago) fixes this problem.

What you can also try (in case you have Nero Disc Speed or CD/DVD Speed installed): use the create disc tab, check the "Simulate" mark then do a simulated burn at maximum speed. This should help to see if there are interface related problems.

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What you can also try (in case you have Nero Disc Speed or CD/DVD Speed installed): use the create disc tab, check the "Simulate" mark then do a simulated burn at maximum speed. This should help to see if there are interface related problems.

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apocalyptic , is it?

the same medium speed 22-max


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Re: Decreasing Device Buffer+automatic WRITING speed-ImgBurn:(

Ugly, indeed
Now we need to figure out, what is bad here: drive, motherboard or only the Sata cable.

Try these:
1.
connect the drive to other Sata ports. Also check the motherboard manual to see if some ports behave like Master or Slave. Then make sure, both HDD and ODD are connected to "Master" role ports.
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try another Sata cable
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try the drive in another computer if possible

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Ugly, indeed
Now we need to figure out, what is bad here: drive, motherboard or only the Sata cable.

Try these:
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connect the drive to other Sata ports. Also check the motherboard manual to see if some ports behave like Master or Slave. Then make sure, both HDD and ODD are connected to "Master" role ports.
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I changed ports before test in Nero Disc speed,
but effect was the same.
-Now HDD is on 1 Sata port
and DVDRW on 2 Sata port

And there is nothing about Master,Slave in ENG manual.

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I thought,that it’s theme only for IDE.
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I changed ports before test in Nero Disc speed,
but effect was the same.
-Now HDD is on 1 Sata port
and DVDRW on 2 Sata port
Okay. Try Sata3 for the DVDRW please.

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I thought,that it’s theme only for IDE.
Your Sata controllers are running in IDE mode. Check the properties of the IDE channel and you'll see device 0 and device 1. The first one is still some kind of master, the other one slave. Recently I read a MSKB article about this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330100
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Okay. Try Sata3 for the DVDRW please.

Your Sata controllers are running in IDE mode. Check the properties of the IDE channel and you'll see device 0 and device 1. The first one is still some kind of master, the other one slave. Recently I read a MSKB article about this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330100

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I looked Bios settings:
Main card:
Primary IDE master - Not det.
Primary IDE slave - Not det.
SATA 1 - Samsung HDD
SATA 2 - TSST DVDRW
SATA 3 - Not..
SATA 4 - Not

Storage configurat.
ATA/IDE Configurat. - ENHANCED
Enhanced mode support - S-ATA

Hm,but how i find master and slave in SATA? In MB Manual-nothing..

In Device manager:

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I looked Bios settings:
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Storage configurat.
ATA/IDE Configurat. - ENHANCED
Enhanced mode support - S-ATA
What other settings are available here?

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Hm,but how i find master and slave in SATA?
Normally there isn't any. But some motherboard manufacturers still work with such Master/Slave categories for whatever reasons.

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Hi,What other settings are available here?
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Storage Config.
ATA/IDE Config. - Enhanced
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Enhanced mode support S-ATA - S-ATA
- S-ATA+P-ATA
- P-ATA

-at evening, I will try SATA porť 3
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Storage Config.
ATA/IDE Config. - Enhanced
- Compatible
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You may try the "Compatible" setting.
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Hi mciahel,
your nightmare is back

I was on business trip in Deutschland for long time.

I bought new
LiteOn Atapi iHAS 124 Y ata Device
and i have already these attempts try:

-Ultra DMA is ok (UDMA 5)
-Firmware updated (SB02)
-SATA Ports changed
-Sata cables changed
-DVDs changed (DVD+R Verbatim - azo tech.)
-Antivirus,downloading,browser...stoped

Only ImgBurn 2.5.1.0 is running,but device buffer is my adversary all the time

Here - dvd iso (film) burned in new Lite on,speed 8x, dvd Verbatim DVD+R

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Hi,

since there is the same behaviour as with your Samsung, I guess it's the motherboard or a driver issue.

In case you have both drives installed, I'd suggest to get a live Linux system like Ubuntu and test the other drive with Ubuntu's built-in CD/DVD writing software. This should help ruling out Windows related issues at least.

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Re: Decreasing Device Buffer+automatic WRITING speed-ImgBurn:(

With the iHAS124 Y you will always see wild buffer fluctuation's as it has a NEC chip-set
just like the Sony Optiarc AD-7240S with my 7240S the buffer goes wild all the way down
to 0% sometimes and most of the time it hits a low of 5% and it never goes above 96%.

The drop off in speed at the end of the disc I've had that happen to me a few times when
using Verbatim MCC 02RG20 discs and a few times using TY G02 discs never had it happen
when using +R discs of any brand.

Try some +R discs and see what happens.
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Why so much hassle about a useless cosmetic thing?

It doesnt count in the end!

The only thing that counts is the writing result and therefore data integrity. :-<
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