Old 28-09-2006   #1
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BURNED or BURNT?

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Lately I'm very worried about something. It is the spelling of the word 'burn' in the past tense.. Is it burNED or burnT? At school they taught me burnt IIRC. But at this forum it is most often spelled as burned.

Please help me! This matter is of utmost importance!
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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

My guess: Both.
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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

Americans like to use the -ed suffix, while the British sometimes use -t, for example: burned vs. burnt.

Language can get wild. For example, "alot" versus "a lot".
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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

Both are correct.

http://www.answers.com/topic/burn

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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

I burned a grilled-cheese sandwich today
- It was burnt to a crisp .


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I burned a grilled-cheese sandwich today
- It was burnt to a crisp .

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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

No! to all of above
You either say I BURNED a CD or whatever, OR
you say
I HAVE burnt a cd....he has burnt a cd etc...
burned is the PAST TENSE of burn, whereas BURNT is the past participle of burn and must be preceded by the appropriate form of "to have", that is have or has ....

the form " I have burnt" usually denotes that you did it continually for a while in the past
there is a distinction but nowadays burnt and burned are often used interchangeably to denote "I burned"
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To me burnt has a connotation of something that went all black and smelly from too much heat. I prefer discs that were burned.
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No! to all of above
You either say I BURNED a CD or whatever, OR
you say
I HAVE burnt a cd....he has burnt a cd etc...
burned is the PAST TENSE of burn, whereas BURNT is the past participle of burn and must be preceded by the appropriate form of "to have", that is have or has ....

the form " I have burnt" usually denotes that you did it continually for a while in the past
there is a distinction but nowadays burnt and burned are often used interchangeably to denote "I burned"
They can be both simple past and past participle.

http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/BURNT

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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

Wow....There have got to be tons of other words like that. LOL. I know for some reason I got hung up on the word Slippery.
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They can be both simple past and past participle.
Completely true, but Elements of Style (definitive work on Grammar) tends to go with burned as past tense and burnt as past participle.
That being said, English English tends to use burnt for both, and American English tends to use burned. Not sure where the Canadians stand.

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People spend a lot of effort on silly things...
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People spend a lot of effort on silly things...
LOL! True though.... Can't help it, I'm a pedant

We could also consider the verbs to mow, bend, tear and spell.
Maybe I should just go get some sleep now
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It reminds me of the whole "Viruses or Virii" argument from way back.
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It reminds me of the whole "Viruses or Virii" argument from way back.
I am going to keep well away from that thread

I'd probably just end up arguing with myself.
(Surely it couldn't have been "virii" because that would mean the stem was Virius? I remember some latin from school.)

NO STOP NOW!!!

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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

Dear Prof...Casa alba est. Oh sorry for that, wish I could forget what little Latin I learned in the '60's- must have been the summer of private tutoring I had -my entire soph. class was told that our current inflictor of estes & sunt would continue to torture us as juniors at the new high school. We actually believed that old xxx. I mean, would a teacher actually lie? My D grade just had to improve so- it was tutoring for me & yes she stayed at the old high school. Both my daughter & hubby have burnt more cheese sands than ever I want to count.
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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

Please punctuate the following:

George where Peter had had had had had had had had had had had the examiners approval
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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

Now I'm going to put on my old teacher's hat for a second...

"I have a burnt cd." (usage: noun)
"I burned a cd." (usage: verb)
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Please punctuate the following:

George where Peter had had had had had had had had had had had the examiners approval
I give you... in the style of William Shatner...

George, where; Peter... Had, had, had... Had; had, had: had, had, had, had, had, the; examiners. Approval...

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This calls, for, immediate, action! Spock, set course, 205, point, 342! We, will, suprise these, nasty scumbags! Where is, my, tea?
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I am going to keep well away from that thread

I'd probably just end up arguing with myself.
(Surely it couldn't have been "virii" because that would mean the stem was Virius? I remember some latin from school.)
It's virii if you're talking about a computer virus.
It's viruses if you're talking about a real-life virus.
That's what I think

Wikipedia has an article dedicated to the plural form of virus.

"While the word viruses is more often used in medical and professional literature, the virii form remains popular in some Internet communities."

Funny part from Wikipedia: (Isn't it English and not english?)

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It is possible that some users of the form virii are purposely distancing themselves from Tom Christiansen, who has used his fame as an authority on Perl to dominate discussion of the topic. Since Mr. Christiansen has no standing as an etymologist, has no authority to dictate proper english usage, has no standing in the virus research community other than as a Perl expert, and has no medical or biology credentials, virus researchers see a case of False Authority Syndrome.
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Re: BURNED or BURNT?

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It's virii if you're talking about a computer virus.
It's viruses if you're talking about a real-life virus.
That's what I think
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"While the word viruses is more often used in medical and professional literature, the virii form remains popular in some Internet communities."
Yes I think this is a fair description of how the terms are used. As a virologist we always refer to "viruses", and "virii" is more or less used in a joking and colloquial way.

I have never heard anyone in the profession use "virii" without suffering an appropriately huge and immediate credibility loss .
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Ok, how about a little question to the British experts: is it still get- got- gotten there to the east?
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kg_evilboy - False Authority Syndrome! HaHaHa!! I love the sound of that.

I may be suffering from "Ellipsisy"... partly from looking at Airhead's avatar, and partly from punctuating in the style of Shat Man...
Oh, sure, it starts out as a joke..a novelty even... but then you find yourself using ellipsis all over the place... See.. the end results are... devastating...

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p.s. virii may be stupid but it sounds more fun than viruses.
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As an English teacher (admittedly in my spare time), I would love to deal with several issues that have been raised here, but I´m too busy laughing my arse (ass for some) off.
Please don´t stop.
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