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Living Room Discuss, bin laden video. at Community forum; hi, heard alot on the news lately about this bin laden video, but would like to know exactly what he said, not just clips or qoutes from the news networks. is there anywhere i can download/watch the full video, subtitled or translated as i only know english. thanks. ben __________________

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hi, heard alot on the news lately about this bin laden video, but would like to know exactly what he said, not just clips or qoutes from the news networks.

is there anywhere i can download/watch the full video, subtitled or translated as i only know english.

thanks.

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if you can find me the english version, i can translate it.
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i cant find any version

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Ben, it exists only in arabic on Al-Jazeera's site, most probably, as the video was sent to them. There exists an English version of the site, but it does not contain the video.
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cool, ill read throught it,
i found a arabic version of the video HERE,
and can read through the translated script HERE.

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ps. if anybody here speaks arabic and english could you please read throgh abit of the translation and see if it has been correctly translated from the video
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Although I don't have much respect for Bush I have less respect for Bin Laden. Possibly clouded by the constant goings on but all throughout it I just see them all as people who simply fight like cowards.

Be-heading hostages and suicide bombings. What's come of the world?
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You two must be in the same city.
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Ok, i confirm that the Al-Jazeera translation is correct..
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thanks mcbyte ,now i have read it, i have a great deal of respect for bin laden, i do not agree with the way he acts (like suicide bombings, 9/11 etc) but i do respect his courige and he is fighting for a just cause. one mans terrorist is anouther mans freedom fighter.

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ps. no way am i aproving off the bin laden killing civilians!
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You two must be in the same city.
wow! how did you know that, well, it turns out i live VERY near him.

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Although I don't have much respect for Bush I have less respect for Bin Laden. Possibly clouded by the constant goings on but all throughout it I just see them all as people who simply fight like cowards.

Be-heading hostages and suicide bombings. What's come of the world?
you actually have any respect for Bin Laden??

please someone just kill the bastard. I dont care what he has to say. Translated: he says I am going to kill all non muslims (get the picture?).
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thanks mcbyte ,now i have read it, i have a great deal of respect for bin laden, i do not agree with the way he acts (like suicide bombings, 9/11 etc) but i do respect his courige and he is fighting for a just cause. one mans freedom fighder is anouther mans freedom fighter.

regards,

ben

ps. no way am i aproving off the bin laden killing civilians!
you did not just say you have respect for him?? My god this man makes Ghengis Khan look like a choir boy. there is a special place in hell for bin laden.

Tell me what cause is he fighting for?? Just cause?? really..tell me?
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the fact america has oppressed them for a long time, and (he feels) that the only way of solving the problem is direct action, however i dont feel that killing inncoent cilvilans is ever right.

ben

ps. people here will all have different views on this, please everybody respect them all.
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the fact america has oppressed the west for a long time, and (hee feels) that the only way of solving the problem is direct action, however i dont feel that killing inncoent cilvilans is ever right.

ben
Thats his distortion of the truth. America gives more aid and money to the middle east than any other Country. He decieves persons to beleive his ideology, kills innocents (against the Koran), and distorts the Muslim Faith to represent him. Beleive me I do not respect this man..if I had the chance to take him out with my own life I would surely do it in a heartbeat.
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america has done alot of good for the west, but i think he is right in trying to stop america bemoming the "ruler of the world", currently to much power lies in the bush admin. america right now can do pretty much what it likes.
i restpect bin ladens views, but dont respect the way he kills suvillains, kiling solders is one thing, killing inocent suvilians is wrong, and has drawn attention away from his cause and made most people hate him.

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america has done alot of good for the west, but i think he is right in trying to stop america bemoming the "ruler of the world", currently to much power lies in the bush admin. america right now can do pretty much what it likes.

ben
Bah its not Bush, you blokes need to understand its not Bush..he may have went into Iraq but this started in the Carter Administration. Support of the Shah of Iran started alot of the current mistrust. Actually it was the Dutch traders, beleive it or not that started the modern Muslim Extremists movement against the West...a very good book to read about this is Krakatoa (volcanic eruption in the late 1800s) in Sumatra.

and Kerry will be the same as Bush on this matter.
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i do not like bush or bin laden, they are both wrong, but i respect them both.
bush is made fun of alot, he isnt that stuped, just not great at english.
so is bin laden, and when bin laden beheaded people like ken bigely and kim sun-il and now this japanise guy, my respect and sypathy for his cause fell alot. however bush still has the death penulty, which is no better imo.

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I'm a muslim and I completly have Bin Ladden. He twists islam around into a faith that promotes killing people. That bastard will suffer in hell.
Ps. There are 73 different sects in islam and none of them promote killing people.
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i agree with nooby god 100%, he has done piss all to help stop racism, he has given islam (and the whole middle east) a bad name and given people who where allready rascist a excuse to be so.

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I'm a muslim and I completly hate Bin Ladden. He twists islam around into a faith that promotes killing people. That bastard will suffer in hell.
Ps. There are 73 different sects in islam and none of them promote killing people.
Yes I completly agree. The Muslim faith is getting a bad reputation because of this man. Most muslims are peace loving persons as are most others. If you read the Koran (which I have studied) it is very much like the bible. You cannot take every word literally. I actually beleive that the Christian/Jewish god and Allah are the same.

When we were in diverstity training for my company the other day the presenter closed with the ultimate form of Bigotry..the attack on the World Trade Centers.

Oh and by the way the video did have him say that he ordered 911.
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we all know that he ordered 911, but has he ever actually admited to it before?
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we all know that he ordered 911, but has he ever actually admited to it before?
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nope..not till now. or whenever that was taken.
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ok, i thougt there was some video of him saying that some of the terrorists on the plane didnt know they where going to die, they just thought they where going to hyjack it.

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ok, i thougt there was some video of him saying that some of the terrorists on the plane didnt know they where going to die, they just thought they where going to hyjack it.

ben
he did say that then laughed (this guy makes Hitler look like mother tereasa). But, he never said I ordered them to hit the towers until now.
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i would say for the ammount of people he has killed he is not a patch on hitler. hitler wanst evil, just misguided, nodody is evil.

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